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12-02-2012 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
...however I have ony problem with my HUD/HEM2 right now...whenever a table gets moved to the grid the HUD disappears on those tables so I'm playing without a HUD which is not what I want obviously....is this a known problem...I mean I know I probably have to ask in the HEM2 forums about that but maybe you have heard about that problem cause when I play the tables tiled all over my screen the HUD stays visible.
i have plenty of ppl using HEM2 with the HUD and SaT at the same time. maybe HEM2 is slow to redraw the HUD when the table moves? i'm not sure.

try this. turn off SaT. drag some tables around with your mouse. does HEM2 move the HUD with the table?
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12-02-2012 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
...whenever a table gets moved to the grid the HUD disappears on those tables so I'm playing without a HUD which is not what I want obviously....
sometimes the hud happend to be beneath the table, if i remember correctly, when clicking in that table it reappears (or drag the table a little around and see if the hud is behind)

... if this happends to you, than it's not an issue of StackAndTile as far as i can tell
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12-02-2012 , 03:34 PM
when i take too long and time out on some tables..is there an easy way to set up a slot where all those tables should be added/seen? when you are 16tabling its kinda hard to get those tables back running cause sometimes i dont even know the name of the table so i have to click through all tables and also tables that need action pop up and interfere there :-(
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12-02-2012 , 03:37 PM
By the way..HUD shows up on the moved tables once I drag the table with my mouse just a little. Not really my prefered option but I guess its better than the alternative.
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12-02-2012 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
when i take too long and time out on some tables..is there an easy way to set up a slot where all those tables should be added/seen? when you are 16tabling its kinda hard to get those tables back running cause sometimes i dont even know the name of the table so i have to click through all tables and also tables that need action pop up and interfere there :-(
have you tried the Old Tables setting?
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/table-types
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12-02-2012 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by noelte
sometimes the hud happend to be beneath the table, if i remember correctly, when clicking in that table it reappears (or drag the table a little around and see if the hud is behind)

... if this happends to you, than it's not an issue of StackAndTile as far as i can tell

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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
By the way..HUD shows up on the moved tables once I drag the table with my mouse just a little. Not really my prefered option but I guess its better than the alternative.
ok cool. maybe contact HEM and tell them to refresh their HUD so that it stays on top
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12-06-2012 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
when i take too long and time out on some tables..is there an easy way to set up a slot where all those tables should be added/seen? when you are 16tabling its kinda hard to get those tables back running cause sometimes i dont even know the name of the table so i have to click through all tables and also tables that need action pop up and interfere there :-(
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Originally Posted by greg nice
have you tried the Old Tables setting?
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/table-types
this isn't really good enough though, you need to be able to instantly grab the table more easily, sometimes it's so hard to try to sit back in on a table that's in your stack, it takes so much effort and concentration away from your game.

not to mention, mtt players go on breaks every hour on most sites, which means every time you have a break all the tables get moved into the old tables slot, from wherever they were positioned, which is annoying.

it would be so awesome if there was recognition of sit-out tables, and a feature to move them to a slot instantly.
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12-06-2012 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteRabbito
this isn't really good enough though, you need to be able to instantly grab the table more easily, sometimes it's so hard to try to sit back in on a table that's in your stack, it takes so much effort and concentration away from your game.
well, i dont recommend using a specific slot for Old Tables. the default setting is to move them to "grid", which means that they will pop into grid normally and move to their own individual grid slot. that way you dont have to fuss with trying to find a table in a stack to sit back in. of course thats difficult. if you use "grid", they pop into the next available grid slot, you click 'sit in', and then you send a 'Stack Table' hotkey to put it back in your main stack. they will not overlap each other in an Old Tables stack unless you select a specific slot number for the Old Tables setting.

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not to mention, mtt players go on breaks every hour on most sites, which means every time you have a break all the tables get moved into the old tables slot, from wherever they were positioned, which is annoying.
not all tables. the Old Tables feature will only move tables in the stack. if a table is already positioned in the grid, it will not move anywhere

my MTT players will usually make this a bit longer than 5 minutes to avoid the break issue that you note.

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it would be so awesome if there was recognition of sit-out tables, and a feature to move them to a slot instantly.
well like mentioned before, if you use the Old Tables = "grid" option, that will move them into a slot instead of into a stack.

the problem is, how do you do that recognition of sitting out tables? and how do you do it so that it seamlessly works across all sites? if you have ideas i'm open to suggestions.

the default Old Tables Duration at 5 minutes is obviously not an instant detection, but i think it works decently enough. i've found i would miss 1 or 2 hands at most with that setting, before the table would pop back into grid where i would notice it, and sit back in, and send it back to the stack. you can always tweak it for faster or slower detection by changing the duration.

the current solution was the best i came up with. as a byproduct, it also allows detection of tables that break and you are the last person sitting at the table

since you were using a stack for the Old Tables, i think changing it to "grid" will help you a lot, and youll find that the current system is satisfactory. give it a shot and let me know

Last edited by greg nice; 12-06-2012 at 11:06 AM.
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12-07-2012 , 07:35 PM
playing on party and ftp. using ezcash and table ninja. stack and tile is being VERY intrusive. it is constantly pulling attention away from the hotkey programs and also away from HEM windows (like the hand history window).

i have SaT only set to tile my tables. no hotkeys set.

running Win 7. scan mode set to BB. no hotkeys set and all the tabs in advanced > general are unticked.
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12-08-2012 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LoudNoises
playing on party and ftp. using ezcash and table ninja. stack and tile is being VERY intrusive. it is constantly pulling attention away from the hotkey programs and also away from HEM windows (like the hand history window).

i have SaT only set to tile my tables. no hotkeys set.

running Win 7. scan mode set to BB. no hotkeys set and all the tabs in advanced > general are unticked.
describe the "pulling attention away"? how can attention be pulled away from another hotkey program?

SaT will only steal focus to if you have the "Activate table requiring action" checkbox ticked in advanced options..
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12-08-2012 , 10:49 AM
While SaT is running I will have to hit my hotkeys (for fold/bet/etc) multiple times for them to work. The pre-set betting, which I have set to half-pot on the flop, will flicker (half-pot >> full-pot >> half-pot >> full-pot >> half-pot).
If I open the HEM hand history window other tables will force themselves on top of the HEM window, repeatedly, as if SaT was pulling on them every 2 seconds.

As soon as I click "STOP" in SaT these issues go away.
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12-08-2012 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LoudNoises
While SaT is running I will have to hit my hotkeys (for fold/bet/etc) multiple times for them to work. The pre-set betting, which I have set to half-pot on the flop, will flicker (half-pot >> full-pot >> half-pot >> full-pot >> half-pot).
If I open the HEM hand history window other tables will force themselves on top of the HEM window, repeatedly, as if SaT was pulling on them every 2 seconds.

As soon as I click "STOP" in SaT these issues go away.
hrmmmm ok

can you post your full SaT config for me to look at? click on File->current layout and paste everything

if you are only tilling with SaT and no hotkeys, i'm not sure why this is happening.

also, why are you using BB scan mode? DWM is the recommended setting. do you not want to use Aero theme in windows7 ?
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12-08-2012 , 12:47 PM
Using BB mode because PW was causing issues with PartyPoker - I would rather not use Aero theme but I guess I can if you think that will fix the problem.

Here is the config
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[settings]
table_width=631
table_height=452
total_slots=12
slot1x=-2558
slot1y=152
slot2x=-1927
slot2y=152
slot3x=-1296
slot3y=152
stack_slot=
newtables_slot=grid
move_on_street=never
oldtables_duration=5
oldtables_slot=grid
scan_mode=BB
slot4x=-665
slot4y=152
slot5x=-2559
slot5y=605
slot6x=-1927
slot6y=605
slot7x=-1296
slot7y=605
slot8x=-665
slot8y=605
slot9x=-1927
slot9y=1058
slot10x=-1296
slot10y=1058
slot11x=-2559
slot11y=1058
slot12x=-665
slot12y=1058
activate_most_urgent=0
highlight_active_win=0
left_click_detection=0
stack_table_at_end_of_hand=0
check_holecard_for_end_of_hand=0
minimize_to_tray=0
show_table_count_while_running=0
notify_new_tables=0
notify_old_tables=0
notify_keep_in_grid=0
notify_ignore_table=0
notify_action_required=0
notify_end_of_hand=0
notification_duration=3
[general]
show_walkthru=0
gui_x=732
gui_y=353
last_tab=
is_reloading=1
[sites]
PartyPokerModern_included_executable_path=C:\Progr ams\PartyGaming\PartyGaming.exe
PartyPokerModern_included_resized_table_width=631
PartyPokerModern_included_resized_table_height=452
PartyPokerModern_included_fold_color=0x977109
PartyPokerModern_included_call_color=0x977109
PartyPokerModern_included_bet_color=0x95801c
number_of_sites=2
included_sites=PartyPokerModern,FullTiltPoker
FullTiltPoker_included_executable_path=C:\Program Files\Full Tilt Poker\FullTiltPoker.exe
FullTiltPoker_included_resized_table_width=631
FullTiltPoker_included_resized_table_height=452
FullTiltPoker_included_fold_color=0x9d7909
FullTiltPoker_included_call_color=0x9d7909
FullTiltPoker_included_bet_color=0xa07e08
[hotkeys]
number_of_hotkeys=2
hotkey1action=Move table to Previous slot
hotkey1key=Left
hotkey2action=Move table to Next slot
hotkey2key=Right
send_table_under_mouse=0
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12-08-2012 , 12:49 PM
i would pay also for sit out table recognition..
i think u can find the pixels for sit out for each site and if they exist alarm!
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12-08-2012 , 02:36 PM
with Aero my computer starts to seem a little laggy. Nothing major but I don't like it, and removing transparency doesn't help.
I enabled Aero and set SAT to DWM but now I can't get SaT to register the tables (F10 doesn't make the tables fold on the setup).
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12-08-2012 , 03:18 PM
heading out right now, so ill take a deeper look when i return

just wanted to clarify that when you say that you are only using SaT to tile your tables, you are just letting the new tables open in the grid and then moving them with your hotkeys? and thats it? no stack to grid functionality at all?

hrm i also quickly noticed that your "stack_slot" is blank in your config... thats probably not gonna be good heh but gotta run right now
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12-08-2012 , 04:48 PM
im using gamebookers skin for partypoker and its not recognised but its the same software
can u give me a config that works instead of me manually making it?
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12-08-2012 , 05:03 PM
i need the window titlebar text of the lobby

open SaT, and click on the lobby, and press the secret built in hotkey: CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + T
and then come back here and paste
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12-08-2012 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LoudNoises
with Aero my computer starts to seem a little laggy. Nothing major but I don't like it, and removing transparency doesn't help.
I enabled Aero and set SAT to DWM but now I can't get SaT to register the tables (F10 doesn't make the tables fold on the setup).
changing the scan mode shouldn't have any changes with the F10 for fold during setup. so thats very strange.

anyway, i dont know how your config shows an empty stack slot, cause that shouldn't happen. can you try fixing that and letting me know the results?

incidentally, i'm working on a feature to allow just basic tiling across multiple sites, and i will be turning off the 'stack' for that. but that will be in the next version or two
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12-08-2012 , 06:28 PM
made a stack slot. didn't help anything.
changed "tile setting" to "action required" and that seemed to make it a little less bad.

a basic tile option would be awesome!
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12-08-2012 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LoudNoises
changed "tile setting" to "action required" and that seemed to make it a little less bad.
but it still was screwing up some?

can you try this:

add this line to your config under [settings] and then save the file and close SaT and then re-try:

Code:
[settings]
dont_scan=1
.
..
...
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12-08-2012 , 10:28 PM
also, consider contacting TableNinjaFT and asking them wtf they are doing, i've had a few reports of users saying that TNFT is trying to force FTP tables in focus. seems to be related to their betpot features.

if another software refuses to want to cooperate with other softwares, theres nothing much i can do
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12-09-2012 , 02:26 AM
finally can you test FullTilt without TNFT running and see if you run into problems with SAT + EzCash + HEM?
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12-09-2012 , 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
i need the window titlebar text of the lobby

open SaT, and click on the lobby, and press the secret built in hotkey: CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + T
and then come back here and paste
Gamebookers.com: Poker Lobby - Good luck dimiz
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12-09-2012 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
Gamebookers.com: Poker Lobby - Good luck dimiz

try this:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/...amebookers.ini

right click, save that file and put it into C:\Program Files\StackAndTile\Sites

then open SaT and look for it at the bottom of the Sites dropdown
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