reconfigured it now twice already but for ipoker it's still not working. ongame is working now. during the configuration wizard there is step 5 "test fold click". for ipoker the test does not work without marking "use basic-click". might this be a problem?

tested several "action delay" times. funny thing is if i put it to 0 tables are insta switching between stack and grid. i have no idea what to do

'use basic click' should not be a problem. if that works, use it. when i said to re-include the site, i didnt mean do the Custom Site Wizard again, rather i meant to go to the Sites tab in SaT, and remove the problem site from the list, and then click Include Site again (but don't choose Other, but find your custom config at the bottom of the list)

no, you should want to use an action delay that is higher than the defualt setting. so try something like 150 or 200.

still not workin ongame works perfect, but the ipoker table still instantly switches back to the grid after "fold and stack". tried to re-include the site 2 or 3 times. tried delay of 100mins - looks hopeless

really like the software, but if it doesn't work for all my pokersites it's pointless.
if u have any further ideas what to try please let me know and thanks for you great support so far!!! really doin' a great job helping us here

Hi again Greg. I tried the reinclude, but it doesn't change anything. SaT correctly identifies the foldbutton and folds when I press F10 and if I try to "cheat" SaT by saying it didn't it won't let me do the settings again, it just stops the reincluding process.

Anyway I'm getting more and more suspicious that it is the table design itself that causes the tables to tile not only when Fold-button becomes visible, but on any action on the table.

First: this is how the table looks before action comes to me:



Then this is how it looks when it's my turn to act:



And finally: this is how it looks after I've folded:



To similar colours that confuses SaT maybe? Unfortunately I haven't found any method to configure the table looks. :-(

It is a little strange though that SaT tiles the table even when I haven't folded yet, since the same area where the fold button is is red as you can see. What I suspect is that the table "blinks" upon every new action (it looks like that) and that this blink might be equal to having black colour in the area for detection of fold button. I'll do some more testing on the subject...

what color is the ipoker fold button, and what color is the table backgorund behind hte fold button? that could be the issue too.

yeah you are correct in your thinking. in your third screenshot, the color of the fold button area is a similar black to the actual button, and this could be causing the issue. but then, like you said, the first screen shows a red color in that area, so that table should NOT be detected as needing action. the blink that you describe could be the problem though. let me know what you find

Hi Greg, any news about Entraction netwok??

still working on the payment stuff. probably a few weeks before i can test that

Hi cAmPiZZOR. As you might have noticed I have problems getting my Ongametables working (on RedKings). What skin are you playing on? Can you upload some screenshots so that I can see if the colours are different from mine?

What size do you have on the tables in your Ongame configuration? Is it the smallest possible with avatars still visible? If so, what coordinates do you have for the fold button?

site should not matter, but i'm using a custom layout ->



playin' on the smallest possible size without avatars.

fold-button cords are:

u might have a point there - it's black on black

just posted in the ipoker-mods thread if someone can send me some grey/blue/... buttons coz i don't wanna change the background (custom and i use black for every software i play). do u have any buttons for me?

for whatever reason i can't edit my post.

you are a genius i tried new buttons and it works fine (read the advise with the color even in the setup - but did not think it would be too important :X )

again thanks a lot for your help!!!!

black on black is SURELY the problem. ill have to document this somewhere for people to know

and as you can see in your OnGame image, your buttons are blue, and the background is black. that is a good difference. Henjon is having a problem with his OnGame skin, becuase he has black buttons, and then a black-ish background behind them

I've written to RedKings support to see if they can help me. I'm not a developer myself (just a poor system analyst ) but I do understand a little. I was hoping they might have some setting in some .xml-file that I could edit, but unfortunately as far as I can see it's only the language settings that are in .xml. There are .swf-files though with graphic objects (Flash?) and what I hope for is that they shall be able to send me a file with buttons in another colour (if those settings are compiled though with the executable program file there's of course probably anything they can do)

No matter how it goes: Thank's for great help so far!

you could try to ask in the regular software forum for how to modify the ongame buttons and such

but if you look at cAmPiZZoR's screenshot, in the upper left it says grinders.org, i went to their website and found an OnGame modification that looks like what cAmPiZZoR is using.

heres the link:
http://grinders.org/poker/showthread.php?t=2524

it looks like youll have to sign up to download the files though. but at least it shows that its possible. probably there is a 2p2 thread somewhere about OnGame mods that should work

Hi again. I didn't try the grinders client but I've found another workaround. I reinstalled my site into SaT again, but this time I told it the bet-button was located a bit under the real bet-button, an area that is grey as you can see on the pictures in the earlier post when it's my turn to act. Then I defined bet as action button. Now SaT correctly tiles the tables when it's my turn to act. Of course I cannot use any Hot Keys for betting, but that's a problem I can live with.

Unfortunately I still experience some problems. At least one table (I played 7 at most) stayed in the stack even when there where free slots. But worse was that both SaT and the poker client stopped responding on two occasions. I found no other solution than closing both and restart. Is that a known problem? Is it possible a re-installation of the poker software could help?

yes that is a work around. its not ideal, but good work on figuring it out

this should not really happen. if you can do more testing, let me know if it continues.

this should not happen either. it could be a problem with scanning the ongame tables, although i dont recall anyone else reporting it. its really a shame that these euro sites won't allow usa players to even use play money, becaues then at least i could add proper support and check these problems.

Henjon,

been following your attempts to get SaT to work on redkings with great interest (I play there as well). You're aware that there's a new client coming out very soon (already out on other skins) that might hamper your current attempts right?

I'd advise you to go to the ongame skin thread and use another skin instead of the default one on redkings, which is pretty damn ugly anyway...

Not very shocked that you're having problems though, Ongame software is known for being notoriously bad and difficult to get to work for 3rd party apps.

hopefully the new OnGame client will make it easier to work with SaT, i wonder what the changes are

Early reports are promising, which is rather unusual

We'll see if the changes are relevant to SaT though.

Thanks Soulman, much appreciated! I didn't know of the client update. But it seems I can't use my workaround anyway (I did new tests and every time both SaT and one or more RK tables stop responding after a couple of minutes, forcing me to restart both) so I hope the client update will be a + for me too. It would be great for sure to be able to play with my HUD not in the "force on top"-mode.

Greg: Thanks for new advice. I will go and have a look in the software section and see if I can find something useful.

Ah, that is your problem? Unfortunately you need to use "force on top" in HEM to play on Ongame, otherwise the client freezes. That hadn't been rectified the last time I checked (a month ago or so? not longer).

interesting, other ppl were claiming that SaT was causing ongame to freeze. so its HEM's problem?

Most likely not. In my troubleshooting process I tried to play without the HUD (I have PT, not HEM but I guess that isn't of great importance?) as well, but both Ongame and SaT still stopped responding after some time.

Any reader in this thread who uses SAT on an original Ongame skin client without experiencing problems?