I have the exact same issue with hypersimple theme. I tried removing/reinclude but it doesn't fix it. Any other work around ? That's by far my favorite theme.

Is there a way to make the sizes of tables different?

next on the to-do list

if you can modify the hypersimple theme, i'm not sure what goes into modding a stars table, but youll want to change the precheckbox colors to a different color than the actual fold buttons. the blue's are too close so thats why SaT falsely detects it

not currently. dont konw if this will be added or not

a cool request i'd have, not sure if its even on your radar, is to autokill/remove tables that i have been sitting out on for X orbits/X amount of time. often times i click sit out next bb on some tables and then have to fish through my stack to find them to manually close them.

or like stars has, hit next bb sit out and close, but for individual tables, they only have it for all tables as an option.

good product. thanks

its second on the to-do list, i wont check orbits, but i can check time

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Hey Greg,

I can't get S&T to work with AP. The program doesn't resize the tables properly or notice when its my turn to act. I'm using a custom layout because the default AP interface is garbage. Is it OK if I record a brief video of me configuring the customsiteinicreator and playing so you can see exactly what's wrong? I'll upload it to youtube or something.

custom layout is gonna be a problem if the fold button is black. post the custom ini that was created and also post your SaT config ini

Greg, I was having a conflict between tn and sat. I wanted to set f9 to move the table to new tables slot in sat and click sitout next bb in tn, but the tn window popped up and said f9 was already in use by another program. I also had to remove my fold, call, and bet hotkeys from tn and now only have them listed in sat, not a big deal since sat seems to handle it just fine, but figure I would mention it.

Thanks for your time.

if you want F9 to work in both, you can try changing it to "~F9" in SaT and see if that fixes it, and then perhaps start TN first, and then SaT

Seems to do the trick, thanks.

regarding end of hand detection:

scanning hand history wont work. i would have to learn each site's HH, and some sites don't even write HHs. SaT needs to support all sites.

scanning for flop cards won't work. a hand ends preflop all the time: one open raise and everyone folds. no flop cards are ever visible in this case.

scanning for a white pixel of hole cards encounters a problem: you raise preflop and everyone folds, your cards disappear for what seems like half a second, before you are start being dealt new ones. SaT would have to scan all tables in grid and hopefully catch this split second in time to detect that the cards disappeared. this was on stars, the biggest site. maybe other sites there is a larger delay between being dealt new cards, i'm not sure. but a problem on stars is a big one

ill be thinking about it more, but i'm open to ideas

What about not worrying about preflop.

If you fold preflop then it always returns to the stack and the few times you want to do otherwise there is a separate hotkey for fold preflop and dont return to stack. TBH the default preflop action should be to return to stack otherwise the grid is going to get very full very quickly.

Where people want to see the end of the hand is more likely when they fold postflop, which can be determined by the presence of flop cards.

people using VPIP mode, when they raise preflop, the table will move to grid, and i assume they are expecting it to return to stack when everyone folds.

if i ignore this case, then i can check for flop cards i think..

no other input?

I don't use vpip mode anymore and I get sat to stack my tables after every action now so it doesn't really affect me anymore.

However imo your suggestion is fine. Its pretty easy to manually stack a table in some cases.

I'm a bit confused how checking for flop cards would work though. Does this mean it constantly checks for flop cards at a set interval? Doesn't this mean any table without flop cards would get stacked all the time? Ie you raise pf, the table pops to the grid. Some guy takes a while to make a decision then sat decides the hand had ended as theres no flop?

One alternative method could work like this. This assumes that every table has a hand number displayed. Sat could grab an image of that area then compare so when it changes it knows the hand is over. However I'm aware this might not be very efficient to grab and compare images of every table

well, yeah, there will have to be logic to decide that when the table pops into grid, SaT will first wait to detect a flop, and then determine end of hand when there is no longer a flop

yeah thats another option. i'm not sure if every site displays the hand number on the table. efficiency is a problem but the method i tried also has big table redrawing problems like FTP experienced early on in SaT

Ahh.. I understand. SaT detects whether we're in a hand. When it detects the flop a flag is set and when the flop disappears the hand is over.

And the only problem is when the action is folded to a preflop raise which actually happens quite often. I guess this doesn't just affect on VPIP tile mode but also preflop mode.

It would be quite hard to imagine a site without hand numbers being displayed somewhere on the table but I know some table mods do remove it. Thinking about it, assuming the hand number is there, this method would be simpler than flop card checking. It would just be checking a region not a pixel correct? and the logic easier?

Maybe, a little disclaimer that this feature only works when the hand number is displayed? It must be the minority which don't have this.

I would think the hand number ( or lack of) problem is less troublesome than the common problem of everyone folding to a pf raise.

I've actually spent a little time trying to think of other ideas such as a combo of holecard/flop card checking, pre action check box scanning and even pot location but I thought I would spout these ideas out in case you see something I didn't

Personally I dont use vpip, I use preflop.

Perhaps this is something that can only work with preflop.

actually the same issue would be present in preflop mode

Here is an interesting bug, maybe already discussed:

if I use SAT's "bring urgent table to front" (because poker room does not support this feature) and if a table pops infront, then at the same time another tables becoms urgent, it pops in front of the first one.

This can be a bit pain in the ass because it can happen right in the moment when I try to click on the first table and then second gets over it and i click wrong button and then i have to bluff my way out to win a pot

i thought i worked that bug out a long time ago. i remember doing quite a bit of testing and havent noticed it happen. i assume you mean this happens in the main stack?

SORRY! my bad.

There seems to be some setting inside the poker client that was the cause of this. will do some more testing and report back!

Anyone else getting an internet connection error?

Keep getting "Internet Connection error." right now which is preventing SaT from opening.