Hey. I'm still having the same issue where a table is supposed to be in the grid but it's doesn't physically move there until I restack. I was thinking about it a little today and when I used to use Placemint if I tried to move or resize a table it would immediately move or resize itself back to where it was. Perhaps it may be better to implement Placemint's method of moving and resizing tables which I suppose is continually checking that tables are where they're supposed to be.

shouldn't be too hard, but got other stuff to do first

ok, please keep bugging me about this as it gets lost in my to-do list because of other features. i'm not sure what placemint's method is, but SaT should re-size the table to fit the grid if you mistakenly resize it while youre playing. but i dont think thats the problem, the problem is like we've discussed before, that SaT is thinking that this particular table is STILL IN GRID, even though its physically not, and therefore thats why you need to 'restack' it before it will re-emerge into grid again. this is the same problem you're referring to, right?

tried the new version for a 20 tabling session, def smoother than the other versions ive tried


clicking the fold + stack hotkey doesnt click the autofold checkbox (thought it would, would like it to, using table under mouse and preflop fwiw)




(2nd comment would be somewhat moot without the first one being addressed)

is there a "mode" where the tables pop to grid once cards are dealt to hero before its his turn to act so he can preact if desired?

i think this would directly affect the number of tables one could comfortably play (preacting the mindless folds of earlygame esp)


had some strange issues come up and go away sporadically but cant offer much info on them other than a brief description

a) using a 3x3 grid with slot one being the stack; for some reason the tables were popping to the 3 slot (then 4 then 5 etc) instead of the 2 slot where they had been and should have been filling in first

this only lasted a few minutes then things went back to the way they should be


b) had 1 table out of several that would not leave the stack for a few hands for whatever reason, eventually clicked on it with mouse and hit the fold and stack key and it went back to normal

Yeah a key to keep all tables (current and new) in the grid should do the trick.

Could we have just one key to toggle this rsther than a seperate on and off key? .. just helps with cutting down on the physical nmber of hotkeys I need (I have quite a few!)

greg, once or twice, every two or three sessions a table will leave the stack and come into the grid that does not need action. I have not been able to tell if it is one I have recently folded or not. It is not an annoyance but it is a bug so I thought I should report it.

should work for most sites. the new stars themes i wasn't as careful and need to recheck.

possible in future version. on to-do list, along with putting back move on flop option


these sound like the same issue as shlade7 was having above. SaT is thinking that a table is still in the grid (at slot2) and therefore no new tables will move to slot2. when you press fold+stack on the table, then SaT "restacks" the table and then the slot is "freed". please keep an eye out and provide anything you can



yes will be a toggle on/off


yeah, i mean ive tried to make this as reliable as i can. i'm sure there are more performance improvements i can make to catch these random occurrances. you could try increasing the action delay in advanced options and see if that helps

Yes, that's the problem I'm referring to. I browsed through Placemint's code and I think they have a slot class which has a state and then a function to move it. So I guess the manager is always checking the state and making sure everything that's supposed to be in a slot is in the correct location. http://placemint.svn.****************...99&view=markup
I'm thinking a table is supposed to move to the grid but fails with the move function and thinks it's in the grid. If it functioned the way Placemint does where it's always making sure everything is where it's supposed to be then it would fix itself. Placemint never was a strain on system resources either so I'm sure it's efficiently written.

The custom mod was a dark background with red buttons, so wouldn't seem too much of an issue. Anyway, I reinstalled the original Full Tilt layout but still got exactly the same problem unfortunately...

With 'Display table on action' selected or deselected in Full Tilt, it seems to make no difference, using VPIP mode the table requiring action doesn't come to the top of the stack at all. I had some success in the previous beta but since the update I cannot use SaT at all. I'm using XP home edition if that affects things.

Thanks

Im running everything in admin, still no go - I too thoguht it was something realating to the fold colour, but cant figure out how to fix it.

Yeh I saw that and edit it and sitll no go.
Pleaseeeeee help!

was using PS hyper simple, only modding is a pitch black custom background BMP instead of the blue/grey standard background

Modern Theme?

PartyPokerModern_included_fold_color=0x814ae

most decisions can be made/acted on in a fraction of a second but some do take thought (or offer a higher longterm expected return if thought through properly) and for those decisions id like to have as much time at my disposal as possible

interpreting and reacting in marginal situations more effectively is going to directly affect my bottom line in the long run (and having a few extra seconds to think about ranges, payouts, or when blinds are going up [often while folding the mindless stuff on other tables] is making me money, so i want those seconds available to me)

yes i suppose this could be the problem as well. i was originally thinking that when a table is re-stacked, the error must be that SaT is not removing it from grid internally, but it does move the table back to stack, in that case still thinking that a table is in that gridslot.

but you hypothesis is just as valid. SaT tries to move a table INTO the grid, does so successfully internally, but the table movement just doesn't occur.

i'm not sure what exactly youre referring to in the Placemint source, if you can refer me to some line numbers i'll have a look. but in general, SaT will always take up more resources because it has to determine whether action is required, and that entails doing non-trivial pixel scanning.

in SaT, please make sure that 'bring table to top' is enabled in Advanced Options

this is a first, i don't remember anyone reporting that they were unable to grab the fold button color during setup. it seems like on your end its failing and just reporting 0x0. i dont know why its happening. you can try the color betweaver suggested.

yeah i'll need to fix that

move on cards dealt would end up being similar to FTP's Rush Poker i think. i've played a little Rush lately and i think its a valuable option to offer

what does the "engine delay" do?

I cannot run setup grid at all- im using stars and pressing f10 the whole time and it wont work

Well I'm not sure how your code is written, but I'm thinking if you have a table class where table instances are internally moved to the grid, you could have a function bool check_status where it checks the size and location every few cycles and on a false return reruns the functions that move and resize.

is there a f% redraw function built into the script and can i disable it

it gets hellish above 20 tables

its the delay between each scan to check if action is required on the tables. lower number means it will scan more frequently, at the expense of using more cpu. higher, vice versa

please run SaT as administrator


checking the size won't work exactly, because different sites resize slightly differently. but i could check the table location, this might work.. ill try to get it into the next version, will let you know

yes it is built in, but should only run if it detects that a pokerstars table is not the correct gridsize. so it should do f5 on initial Start, and then probably every time a new table opens that isn't the correct gridsize. SaT needs the table to be the correct size so that it can find that right fold coordinate. i could give you the option to disable the sending of f5, but then your tables wouldn't be the correct size..

so it shouldnt send F5 if the tables open the size they are supposed to be?


I thought made a 400 table layout with all tables the size they should be for SAT but maybe they are off

ill make another before i try it again

also for anyone using SAT with PS.....




which PS theme(s) are "working" right now as far as the "fold and stack" hotkey ticking the autofold checkbox?



if someone is using one where that works please let me know which tyty

I agree with you, but remember that you run the risk of having your grid clog with tables waiting for other players to make their decisions, so you will be checking and rechecking the tables. Currently you only have to loook at the table once. Obviously a feature like this is a personal choice. I would like to see how it would work too. But in theory it wouldn't be as good, imo.

my 2 cents...

Had another go tonight Greg, made sure this option was selected but still no luck. Tables weren't popping to the top of the stack at all. To confirm, had the problem both with 'Display table on action' selected or deselected.

hadnt thought about it from that angle, im definitely curious now which i would prefer to run and if it would be a problem more than an advantage



seems like i wouldnt have that many hands i knew i wanted to play at once that things would get backed up that way but who knows, definitely might be an advantage at a medium number of tables and a disadvantage at a high # of tables

yeah please confirm that


classic should work


then its probably that the fold button color wasn't grabbed correctly during Include Site setup. make sure youre running SaT as admin, and remove and re-include FullTilt

I have used the No Images Theme for a while now and no problems at all. However I used the wheelup as a hotkey to fold and stack at one point and it would toggle the checkbox on and off if I rolled the wheel too far.