Where did JT get a pen anyway?

Amanda had it, but I dont remember why. They won a reward challenge for their personal items, and hers was a journal or something.

Granted it would have played out fine if perception was reality, but why save a complete stranger on the opposing tribe (Russell) and not use the HII when the tribes merge to get rid of Parvati, or Russell for that matter, since Sandra warned them?

He shouldn't even have to make an argument because they were already in his alliance. If we look at the reverse: what is the incentive for Jerri to flip? Let's say it's that Russell promises her that she can be his Natalie. Okay, so Boston Rob should offer that, too.

However you break it down, though, Boston Rob has more to offer Jerri in terms of numbers, weaker competition, etc. The fact that he couldn't keep her in his alliance says either 1) Russell is very persuasive and strong socially, 2) Boston Rob isn't as persuasive as Russell, 3) Jerri didn't trust Boston Rob after ASS, or 4) some combination of 2 and 3. Whatever the answer is, though, it's either a point in Russell's favor or a knock on Boston Rob.

Once Tyson left I though it was in Jerri's and Coach's best interest to flip.

I had thought Tyson was the glue that kept people in that alliance thereby him leaving left the alliance in shambles.

If a 6-person alliance crumbles when one person leaves it, that's a pretty crappy alliance...which you then have to blame Boston Rob for, right?

Nope, but I would blame him for not targeting Parvati. Jerri and Coach would have voted for her.

The 6 person alliance was split within 3-3, Jerri and Coach were smart to not settle for fourth and fifth in that when Tyson left.

So settling for 4th and 7th was better?

BTW, I am in a survivor draft..

1. Jim/Tehtoes
2. VarianceMinefield
3. Vyk
4. dedmau5
5. CStone
6. Cash mahne
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

If someone wants in late, they can be my co owner... but they MUST hate undrafted, undrafted, undrafted and undrafted... and if we get 1st pick they must agree to take undrafted...

Seriously though... i might be interested in a co owner... But I do want to know how you think we should draft, because it matters to me on who you like and dislike

Survivor Trivia...

Winners and number of Immunity Challenge wins

S01 Richard (1)
S02 Tina (0)
S03 Ethan (1)
S04 Vecepia (2)
S05 Brian (3)
S06 Jenna (3)
S07 Sandra (0)
S08 Amber (1)
S09 Chris (3)
S10 Tom (5)
S11 Danni (2)
S12 Aras (1)
S13 Yul (0)
S14 Earl (0)
S15 Todd (0)
S16 Parvati (1)
S17 Bob (3)
S18 JT (3)
S19 Natalie (0)
S20 Sandra (0)
S21 Fabio (4)
S22 Rob (4)
S23 Sophie (3)
S24 Kim (4)

Winners of the Final Immunity Challenge
(total individual immunities)

S01 Kelly (4) 2nd
S02 Colby (5) 2nd
S03 Kim J (2) 2nd
S04 Neleh (1) 2nd
S05 Brian (3) 1st
S06 Jenna (3) 1st
S07 Lillian (1) 2nd
S08 Rob (4) 2nd
S09 Chris (3) 1st
S10 Tom (5) 1st
S11 Danni (2) 1st
S12 Danielle (1) 2nd
S13 Ozzy (5) 2nd
S14 Dreamz (1) t2nd
S15 Amanda (2) 3rd
S16 Amanda (2) 2nd
S17 Susie (2) 2nd
S18 JT (3) 1st
S19 Russell (1) 2nd
S20 Russell (2) 3rd
S21 Fabio (4) 1st
S22 Rob (4) 1st
S23 Sophie (3) 1st
S24 Kim (4) 1st

Final Immunity 10-1st, 12-2nd, 2-3rd

I had never seen it written out like this, but it's a great argument against a F2 imo. We have 8/14 FIC winners losing the game, and then arguably all six winners needed to win it to win the game (though I have absolutely no clue what happens on Thailand if Heidik loses immunity). At worst, Chris, Tom, and JT definitely all go out in third place without immunity. Jenna and Danni probably do as well, though I think Jenna's win is still a major argument against a F2 anyway.

I don't think Boston Rob would have much credibility offering Jerri to be his Amber. She's seen his work already. I do think Jerri was impressed by Russell giving his idol away to Parvati, but I'm not sure she'd have trusted him any more than Rob if she had ever played with him before or seen him play before.

Rob
Sandra
Courtney

Jerri
Coach

Russell
Parv
Danielle

I agree on the weaker competition that Rob had to offer. I'm not sure that would have been comforting to Jerri though. Rob was trying to save Sandra and Courtney, which could inspire loyalty from them...which they already were giving. I wonder if Jerri looked at the Russell group and believed his promise to take her to the end because she saw his other partners as being more threatening than herself so that made sense to her that he would rather take her over Parv or Danielle.

I almost think Rob's best move was to provide a viable strategy for Coach and Jerri which seems pretty counter-intuitive. Thinking for those who can't think well doesn't sound like a great idea, but it's possible he should have done so. Pointed out to Coach and Jerri that they could be a pair and team up with the Sandra Courtney pair to get him out somewhere down the line. I believe his problem with Jerri was himself so he needed to find a way to minimize himself as a threat.

I think Rob and Russell are both hampered by the fact that they have to be 'the boss'. It makes them too rigid in some spots.

Assuming there are other returning players on her tribe, it's very low - which I hate.

On the KOS-cast - lol at Dom and Kos saying that Kim is hotter and more fun to hang out with than Parv. Kos's bitterness at first Elisabeth Hasselback and then Andrea losing HOAT contests to Parv is ginormous.

I guarantee that if you each spent 2 hours in a room with Parv and then Kim, that you'd emerge bored and sleepy after two hours with Kim, and with raging wood and blue balls after 2 hrs with Parv.

That being said, I do believe that rating the two on the GOAT scale is very hard. They are both great players and deserve a spot in the top tier.

They said Kim would be more fun to hang out with? Parvati would be more fun to hang out with and is HOAT.

Nope. They just weren't smart enough to flip again after Rob left.

Fwiw, I don't think Tom won the final immunity challenge. The girl won it and Ian told her to vote him out. Just a technicality, I understand your point though.

Oh - and also - this was the GOAT podcast IMO.

This was the hang on to the bobbing pole challenge, right? I recall Tom winning that when Ian gave up.

Katie stepped down from the buoy at 4h:51m.

At 8h:11m Tom said to Ian "If I beat you, I'm taking Katie, if you step down, I'll take you."

At 11h:45m, Ian said, "I'll step down and you take Katie to show my integrity. Friendship is more important..." Tom says (paraphrasing), "Ian will have my friendship after this game anyway, but now he wins my respect", Ian steps down.

They really should bring back such epic FIC.

Agreed. though the final Samoa IC was pretty great

LOL at you for not realizing that different people are attracted to different features and personality traits in their women. Give me Kim any day of the week.

What about having the individual immunity work the same as a hii? Anyone can be voted, and you choose who to play it on before the votes are read. Would make the game much more difficult and make every vote unpredictable.