In terms of the jury equity power rankings currently I have it as

Big jury threats
1) Drea
2) Mike

Can win with a good final tribal council performance
3) Omar
4) Maryanne
5) Lindsay

FTC Goats
6) Jonathan
7) Romeo

I was kinda confused when Omar was thinking of not taking Hai out. When he tells the lie to Mike, he has to take out Hai 100% of the time. Keeping him around would make it extremely likely that Omar's lie about Hai to Mike would be revealed, especially since Mike doesn't shy away from confrontation. It's hard to tell from the edit but if Omar was really managing people to maybe flip to Jonathan, it feels like a very dumb play. It gave people the chance to see the under the radar puppet master he is. The edit didn't show anything like that, though, so maybe he's doing it so well nobody thought anything of it.

For some reason a thought popped in my head during one of the Maryann scenes. Drea makes jury, Maryann makes FTC, and Drea manages to convince enough people on the jury to give it to Maryann. I know it's crazy and highly unlikely and don't even think Drea would even push for a Maryann win since she obviously values strategy very highly, I just want my random thought to be out there if it happens .

I think Mike will be pissed off about the betrayal, but I don't think Mike would use it as a reason to not give it to Omar. I think Mike can see they're playing a game and that it's part of the game.
I do think Mike might be pissed off personally when he sees this episode because the way Omar described his move in the confessional seemed unnecessarily evil and forgetting that he's dealing with real people with real feelings here.




Random thought 1: This type of loved ones visit is almost tolerable, it doesn't make the whole episode suck but does give us more of a personal insight. It's also a lot cheaper, which is all the rage at the moment. I hope they keep it.

Random thought 2: Omar's GF was hot.

Random thought 3 since this is now a woke discussion thread to learn about the world: Do people who save themself for marriage do everything together but sex (as in, no penetration but everything else is a go)? Or is there variance in how people approach it?

Omar does a lot of anal

I think if there is a black woman at FTC they will win mostly because of race. Period. And that sucks, honestly. If either Drea or Maryann makes FTC, the only issue will be if it's both which one wins.

Not to be cynical, but I can see the writing on the wall. Also, if only one of them makes it there are three black people on the jury, which are autovotes for the remaining POC.

How do you feel about the below

Female black contestants;

Ali Elliot, Alicia Calaway x2, Candace Smith, Cassandra Franklin, Cece Taylor, Chanelle Howell, Cirie Fields x4, Crystal Cox, Cydney Gillon, Desi Williams, Desiree Afuye,
Erica Durousseau, Francesca Hogi x2, Ghandia Johnson, J'tia Taylor. Joanna Ward, Jolanda Jones, Julia Carer, Laurel Johnson, Lauren Beck, Liana Wallace, Linda Spencer, Marissa Peterson, Marya Sherron, Michaela Bradshaw x2, Missy Byrd, Naonka Mixon, Natalie Cole, Ramona Gray, Rebecca Borman, Roxy Morris, Sabrina Thompson, Sarah Dawson, Semhar Tadesse, Shan Smith, Sherea Lloyd, Stacey Powell, Stepahnie Favor, Sundra Oakley, Taj Johnson, Tasha Fox x2, Tijuana Bradley, Val Collins, Vecepia Towery, Yasmin Giles

Total number of female black contestants games played = 52
Number of wins = 1

This implies that you think there should be more female black winners simply because they are black. There's only been one Asian winner too. And I think Sandra has been the only Latin winner.

Plus, you're wrong. Including Erica there has been Vecepia. Earl, Wendell and Jeremy for the male black winners. So that's five black winners out of 41 seasons, or about 12% of the time. Which actually about mimicks the black population of the US (13%).

My statement had nothing to do with black women sucking and maybe they don't deserve it. My statement is that the woke culture of our times is sort of making the game less about actually winning due to skill/strategy/socialization and more to do with voting along racial lines.

Lol. Mike “dominates socially” because he has GOAT written on his forehead and these are serious players

There have been two Asian winners

I'm not implying anything. Your comment brought up race saying that you think the two black female contestants left on this season get an auto win if they reach ftc by being black.

I have replied with a fact that female black contestants have won 1 out of 52 bullets played (the only win in a very close 4-3 vote also)

I'm not sure why you are classifying Erica from season 41 as being black being as she is from the Philippines so is Asian

Can you possibly provide some statistics or just any evidence to support your below

'the woke culture of our times is sort of making the game less about actually winning due to skill/strategy/socialization and more to do with voting along racial lines

Three

Yul Kwon
Natalie Anderson
Erika Casupanan

I really don't think Maryann has much of a chance at FTC. If you are really convinced its riggged for black contestants we can bet on Maryann not winning if shes there

To be fair that's just the story the producers want us to see.

I think Maryann and Romeo are drawing near dead.

maryann would be the worst winner in survivor history

I'm willing to bet that if either Drea or Maryann are at FTC they will win. Now, some of that will depend who they are with of course, but I'm willing to bet race will be a factor if they are sitting next to two white people. Drea already brought up race as a factor and they will definitely play that card again at FTC if they think it will make them a million dollars (which it likely will).

Ah, yes, the classic game of Survivor. Outwin, outplay, outlast, and out-be-a-member-of-a-group-that-the-media-narrative-wants-to-portray-as-a-victim

Just want to say that I'm really glad that Omar didn't end up pushing for Jonathan to go as he would have gone from playing great to full on FPS. He definitely seems like he knows when to be in which gear.

As far as female black contestants, a statistic like 1 out of 52 is irrelevant without being able to compare it to the stats of other demographics.

Also, I don't necessarily think that this season is nearly as insufferable with the woke **** in the way that seasons 41 or 39 were. So I don't think it's any kind of foregone conclusion at all that a black woman wins at the end just because she's a black woman, just because of how things went down 2 episodes ago.

I just want to bet against Maryann, since you think its rigged for any black chick Im sure youd just take action on her right?

I think Drea could win on merit and relationships pretty easily. Maryann not so much. So thats the point. I don't think Race will be a huge factor. Maybe a small one.

I do think you may be sleeping on her as a winner contender.

With 7 left, I do think she has a path to the final 4;

-Stupid do or die twist is this week. However, she will unlikely 'play' and put herself at risk
-Then is in the final 6 with an idol and bigger 'threats' on the board

I do think she will then need to win fire though as;

-Romeo should be the current favourite to lock up the goat seat
-Unlikely to win f4 immunity

As it stands

Final 3 with Romeo and Jonathan I think anyone wins comfortably.
Final 3 with Romeo and Lindsay or Omar I think she has an outside chance.
Final 3 with Romeo and Drea or Mike I think shes cooked

I think Drea is ranked too high. I don't think she will necessarily get a lot of jury votes just because she's black. And taking that away, she hasn't done much, resume wise. Not a great social player, not really a key factor in any of the TC decisions.

I'd say based on the edit that Drea, Romeo, and Jonathan have very little win equity. Omar is being painted as such an obvious front-runner that I suspect he won't win either. My rankings are

1.Lindsay
2.Mike
3.Omar
4.Maryanne
5.Drea
6.Jonathan
7.Romeo

Lindsay and Mike are both playing really good games. Both great social players and Lindsey is an excellent athlete also. I can't remember anyone even discussing a Lindsay vote so far but I may be forgetting.

Also regarding Omar, I will say that there are some straight guys who have sorta feminine/gay mannerisms. So I'm not gonna say he's obviously gay, especially when they actually showed his girlfriend on the show.

Putting on my tinfoil hat, it sure seemed like that HII was easier to spot when Maryanne walked by the tree, than when Lindsay did. Like it was moved up so it could be seen from the ground, without even reaching your hand up and feeling for it. I may need to rewatch.

Oh shut up

I have a good friend who is very similar to Omar in personality, and the ongoing "joke" with him is how he's actually gay, even though he has a wife and kid. To keep up the "joke" he constantly talks about sucking dick, ****ing guys, and sends our group of friends clips of gay porn because it's "funny". He doth protest way too much imo, but because he is a member of a very conservative branch of a certain religion, he will NEVER come out. I'd say 80% chance he's gay.

Point is, considering Omar is a member of a religion that chucks homosexuals off of buildings, the fact that he has a girlfriend doesn't mean jack ****.

I don't know why you would care if another man is gay or not unless if you yourself were interested in him but here we are.

Back to the actual game;

Terrible do or die twist this week so 33% chance someone gets Monty Hall problemed out of the game (if they pick rationally)

Can easily see a Jonathan gets taken out picking irrationally based on what we have seen from him so far