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12-22-2023 , 11:11 PM
Youre an idiot if you dont say youre at least bisexual in the video
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12-22-2023 , 11:58 PM
Obv
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12-23-2023 , 12:09 AM
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It's a weird comparison, but his season this time reminded me most of the season where Sandra beat Russell. She was sounding the alarm about Russell the whole season and trying (and failing) to get him out. She ended up winning because she was the last one standing, and could tell a credible story to a bitter jury that she told them to get rid of Russell and tried to make it happen.

Difference is Dee is a nicer person so Jake's story doesn't resonate as much since no one hated her.
Sandra wasn't the last one standing with a credible story. There was a high value target who managed to make it to the end by using Russell as a tool, but Russell is such a toxic human being Parvati couldn't overcome having his stink on her.

IF people hated Dee, you should probably NOT try to vote her out because they aren't going to pick her to win.
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12-23-2023 , 12:47 AM
I grew to like Katurah by the end. But imagine how much of her we wouldve got if she actually won.

I kind of think we need a reset of the three tribe format. Tika 3 and Reba 4 are two amazing, recreatable alliances. People are just going to stick with their tribes in the next few iterations imo
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12-23-2023 , 07:39 AM
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I grew to like Katurah by the end. But imagine how much of her we would've got if she actually won.

I kind of think we need a reset of the three tribe format. Tika 3 and Reba 4 are two amazing, recreatable alliances. People are just going to stick with their tribes in the next few iterations imo
Would much prefer the two tribe nine person format they used to have. I think nine people makes for a very interesting dynamic right out of the gate with lots of permutations, whereas the first couple of boots on any tribe with six is just picking off the weak and unlikeable people so they have a much lower chance.

And am I the only one who has no idea who SIA is?
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12-23-2023 , 08:28 AM
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This ^. I don't understand why people are so down on Jake except, obviously, he cries too much--but much of that is his passion for the game. He put forth ideas, which if followed, would have busted up the controlling alliance and opened up the game for everyone else, but Katurah insisted on helping the Reba 4 team win at every opportunity. During the tribe mix up, Jake's idea to force a tie and make Austin switch his vote to Julie was a daring plan, but Katurah wouldn't go for it. Presumably because she was afraid Kaleb and Jake would realign with Bruce which would have been the end of the world for her. Even though Bruce was targeting Kaleb and Kaleb knew it so the idea of them realigning for the long haul seemed a lot less likely than the very tight knit Reba people sticking together and dominating. Then, right in the critical moment, she makes Jake swear on his Nana to vote Dee and has such rampant trust issues, she'd rather vote in a way that defied logic (see above) than once again open the door for herself and everyone else. I mean, I guess people can say Jake played badly because he failed to talk Katurah out of her crazy, but his ideas were sound. If she doesn't trust him, maybe just give some thought to what's in his best interests and trust that he'll do that?

What kind of lunatic says no to voting Julie, insists it MUST be Dee, on Nana's fing life, then votes Julie and blames the person who saves her dumb @$$ with his immunity idol? She might want to get some therapy and figure her $#!% out.
I think he got screwed bad by Katurah for the final 5, but I don't understand why he told Austin about the idol. I don't really get him breaking the challenge and he just seemed pretty impotent for most of the game.

The first time he tried to force rocks, I can understand, his second plan doesn't make sense - at least if he knows (and he really should know if he's socially clued in) that Austin has an idol at 6. He basically came up with a plan that made zero sense, and would've resulted in him drawing rocks with Katurah.

The other times, he just seemed very ineffectual and bizarre. Like being content with being the decoy or the split vote when Bruce went home and was likely to use his idol.
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12-23-2023 , 09:16 AM
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And am I the only one who has no idea who SIA is?
I've never heard of Sia other than her mentions on survivor
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12-23-2023 , 10:57 AM
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I think he got screwed bad by Katurah for the final 5, but I don't understand why he told Austin about the idol.
I think he told Austin because his plan was to let everyone know he had the idol (knowing Austin would tell Dee etc.), and tell them all he was playing it on himself. This would lead to the Reba 3 voting Katurah, and he could create a big "moment" at tribal by playing his idol for her and blindsiding Dee. That's why he didn't even tell Katurah, he wanted her reaction to be genuine shock, purely for dramatic effect.

Honestly even if it worked I doubt it would have gotten Jake a single vote at FTC, but it probably would have given Julie or Austin a million bucks.
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12-23-2023 , 11:50 AM
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Would much prefer the two tribe nine person format they used to have.
The problem with three tribes is there's a good chance one tribe won't ever need to go to tribal council. But if you start with three tribes, the swap should be to go to two tribes and then not merge so soon.
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12-23-2023 , 01:56 PM
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I think he told Austin because his plan was to let everyone know he had the idol (knowing Austin would tell Dee etc.), and tell them all he was playing it on himself. This would lead to the Reba 3 voting Katurah, and he could create a big "moment" at tribal by playing his idol for her and blindsiding Dee. That's why he didn't even tell Katurah, he wanted her reaction to be genuine shock, purely for dramatic effect.

Honestly even if it worked I doubt it would have gotten Jake a single vote at FTC, but it probably would have given Julie or Austin a million bucks.
tbh I think he also (correctly) didn't tell her because he didn't trust her not to share that info.

btw Katurah's exit interview is hilarious. As expected, she played perfectly in her mind except for one mistake that cost her the win.

she "knew" Jake was hiding something and that's why she didn't trust him at F5

"It happened exactly to the T the way I called it from day 12"
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12-23-2023 , 02:04 PM
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tbh I think he also (correctly) didn't tell her because he didn't trust her not to share that info.

btw Katurah's exit interview is hilarious. As expected, she played perfectly in her mind except for one mistake that cost her the win.

she "knew" Jake was hiding something and that's why she didn't trust him at F5

"It happened exactly to the T the way I called it from day 12"
So self unaware lol
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12-23-2023 , 04:48 PM
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I've never heard of Sia other than her mentions on survivor
I think they showed her one time at a reunion. Some weirdo singer? I think. Had a half-black half-white wig that covered her face.
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12-23-2023 , 05:59 PM
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The problem with three tribes is there's a good chance one tribe won't ever need to go to tribal council. But if you start with three tribes, the swap should be to go to two tribes and then not merge so soon.
The shorter season creates a challenge there. So say you start with 18, then go to two tribes at 14 (so seven per tribe after about a week which would make for decent strategy needs). Then only four days later you're merging.
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12-23-2023 , 09:11 PM
I'd like a season of just two tribes and play out the 6 pre merge episodes like the good old days. 3 tribes makes tribe strength too relevant for interesting pre merge votes for the most part these days.
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12-23-2023 , 10:53 PM
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tbh I think he also (correctly) didn't tell her because he didn't trust her not to share that info.

btw Katurah's exit interview is hilarious. As expected, she played perfectly in her mind except for one mistake that cost her the win.

she "knew" Jake was hiding something and that's why she didn't trust him at F5

"It happened exactly to the T the way I called it from day 12"
Lol that's great
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12-24-2023 , 06:27 AM
Now that the dust has settled thought id take a stab at my personal favourite season tier list

A tier - 1, 6, 7, 15, 17, 20, 28, 37
B tier - 4, 9, 10, 11, 12, 16, 18, 21, 23, 25, 29, 31, 32, 33, 45
C tier - 2,3, 8, 13, 14, 27, 30, 34, 35, 36, 38, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44
D tier - 5, 19, 22, 24, 26, 39


Probably somewhere around 18/45 overall. Dragged up by the 90 minute episodes, a satisfying winner and solid cast. Dragged down by similar new era problems of the constant vote losing, the split tribal at 12-11, dull pre merge challenges and the small pre merge tribes.
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12-24-2023 , 09:48 AM
So I need to go back and watch some of the seasons from 33-43. What do people here consider top tier of that era?
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12-24-2023 , 10:43 AM
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Dragged down by similar new era problems of the constant vote losing, the split tribal at 12-11, dull pre merge challenges and the small pre merge tribes.
And quitters
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12-24-2023 , 12:40 PM
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So I need to go back and watch some of the seasons from 33-43. What do people here consider top tier of that era?
Someone literally just listed all seasons in tiers for you 1 post above, wtf?
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12-24-2023 , 02:35 PM
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Someone literally just listed all seasons in tiers for you 1 post above, wtf?
I'm looking for more than one opinion and honestly don't always agree with that posters rankings of players.
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12-24-2023 , 09:31 PM
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So I need to go back and watch some of the seasons from 33-43. What do people here consider top tier of that era?
Season 37 is one of my favorite seasons + casts ever and is very entertaining.
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12-24-2023 , 10:42 PM
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I'm looking for more than one opinion and honestly don't always agree with that posters rankings of players.
40 is well worth watching if you haven't, but you'd need to watch a few seasons to remain unspoiled I guess. It's not as good as it could've been but is very entertaining at times.

33 and 37 are the only actually great newbie seasons in that period.

I really like 41 at times, but it's really up to whether you like Shan or not. She's a massive character, I thought she brought a lot more drama than most of the contestants in this era, but some people hate her. She plays the race card a bit.
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12-25-2023 , 06:39 PM
I liked how well edited the season was with the 90 minute seasons, but Kaleb and Emily were kinda the only people I really loved, maybe Jake and Dee towards the end I was warming to. Pre merge would have been complete garbage without Kaleb and Emily. Reba played it well, Belo were very stupid and made it easier for them than it should have been.

Honestly maybe this season is somewhere between 25 and 30 for US seasons I guess for me. Not a big new era fan and none of them would make my top 20 so far.
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12-27-2023 , 07:51 AM
Checked out Russell's youtube recently and there's a video of him clearly incredibly drunk complaining about Survivor. Basically begging for a return, moaning about how Survivor ruined his marriage. It's legitimately sad and hilarious.

Russell haters were vindicated, guy is a pathetic loser.
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12-27-2023 , 10:34 AM
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I'm looking for more than one opinion and honestly don't always agree with that posters rankings of players.
https://ew.com/gallery/ranking-every-survivor-season/
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