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Originally Posted by john voight
Pretty pumped actually. I was real pissed after the ending last year. Didn't like it at all. But I realize they had to do it that way b/c of fear of not renewing for another year.
I'm not sure why you think that was the case, but I can't imagine the show was in danger of not having more seasons while they were writing s4. I think they went that route because Gus simply had to die to advance the plot and that's how they chose to do it.
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Originally Posted by bbfg
I feel like almost everyone is still rooting for him. We obviously like Jesse more, but it's not like we hate Walt, either.
I hate Walt. I want nothing but for his character to ultimately wind up in a place of misery and failure. I could expand upon this but I've probably already beaten it to death ITT. I'll just summarize by asking those of you who root for Walt to ask yourself a question. Do you expect season 5 to be a story of redemption for Walt's character?
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
An entirely dark note is pretty much the only way it can end imo.
It's odd how everyone ITT sees Jesse as some kind of sympathetic hero. He is basically just as bad as Walt, he is just slower getting to the same moral place as Walt.
Both love their families or surrogate families.
Both have provided copious amounts of drugs for profit.
Both have murdered people for personal gain.
Both have shown remorse.
The only real difference is the speed at which they change morality. Jesse is basically now where Walt was in season 3. Given a few more seasons (time in the show) Jesse would be where Walt is now.
Does that make Jesse a better person. I dont really think so.
Well, Jesse has been manipulated so badly by Walt. Jesse's moral compass is a lot more apparent than Walt's. The episode Peekaboo in s2 is a great example of this. Jesse is legit torn up over a meth head killing her husband because he feels so much empathy for the kid. In s3, he's convinced he's the bad guy, blames himself for Jane's death, the plane crash. Walt is broken up over Jane's death for all of 2 mins and doesn't even give the plane crash a second thought in fact making a big point of telling everyone to just "move on" at that school assembly. At the end of s3, when it seems all hope is lost, Jesse PLEADS with Walt several times to take the witness protection route and pack up shop. When Walt forces his hand to kill Gale, Jesse has some sort of mental breakdown whereas Walt has convinced himself that it was self-defense (lol).
Walt shows almost no remorse or guilt for his actions whatsoever. Jesse does so at every turn.