Enjoy Six Feet Under, fellas. Whatever your eventual opinion of the series as a whole it has some of the GOAT acting, scenes and episodes.

Completely disagree. I like Walt and his character. Tony was childish and constantly saw himself as a victim.

Also, I should probably re-watch BB because I'm trying to ask myself what Walt could have done differently (other than not dealing meth in the first place and accepting charity).

Also saw a link to this article on Wikipedia:

http://www.movieweb.com/news/breakin...eason-5-finale

Don't think this is a spoiler but to be safe:

nah, Walt is just easier to relate to then Tony. It's been discussed over and over in the BB threads but Walt has had plenty of options to walk away. Sure, they come with risk but the ultimate risk is staying in the game.

+1. report back when you cry.

That part is a bit spoilerish, but I assumed that anyway. The link itself is pretty spoilery, though it's not at all etched in stone. Should spoil the link too maybe.

http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/vi...o-breaking-bad

Just a tiny bit more, but every little one makes me giddier.

AMC posted some cast pics - http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleri...jesse-walt.php

Badger's arrest in the episode "Better Call Saul" is perfect.

walt is going to kill jesse or vice versa. has to happen.

been rewatchin on youtube, gettin ready. all ep's are uploaded

Pretty pumped actually. I was real pissed after the ending last year. Didn't like it at all. But I realize they had to do it that way b/c of fear of not renewing for another year.

I hope Walt ends up behind bars. I hope his brother in law (get it, in law, as he is in law and also an in-law) finally gets him. I hope Sky ends up with the money and raises the kids. As bitchy and annoying as she is in the show, she is a much better person than Walt, and has actually made Walt's operation much better than it was w/o her. Walt is a **** parent imo.

I hope Mike ends up with the money. Man took a bullet to the ear, what more do you want?

Actually what am I talking about. The money needs to go to:



for that coffee machine.

^^^^^^

WTF is that? Where is that from? That's hilarious.

Gale's the best

From early season 4, when Hank's friend from the police gives him the Gale case file to read. He shows that to Walt and Walt Jr. and Walt looks horrified watching it, pretty awesome scene.
EDIT: here ya go

The more I think about it, the more I think we might actually see Walt kill Hank after Hank discovers the truth. That'd be a huge moment that really symbolised Walt's fall from grace.

Oh yeah! I knew it was familiar.

yeah, I can see this happening too. You guys are so ****ing good at predicting stuff (walt poisoning the kid, some sixth sense **** in dexter, etc) that i'm thinking about never reading this thread again

I can see them taking 2 lines this season:

-Letting Walt die, giving the viewers very mixed emotions. While obviously Walt has become a bad man already, I feel like almost everyone is still rooting for him. We obviously like Jesse more, but it's not like we hate Walt, either. If the next season could make opinions more divided on the matter while not really being polarising, killing him off could be an awesome way to end the show.
-Letting Walt live and make him super mother****ing evil. The big shock here would be that Walt would kill either Jesse, Hank, or both of them.


Random question:
Do you guys think it is possible that Mike kept up with what was happening, and knows that Gus didn't poison Brock?
It can still be chalked up to coincidence if that happens, but I feel like Jesse realises it can't have been coincidence.

tbh, I never really LIKED walt. he's a great character and all, but i've always liked pinkman and hated walt's egoistic ways.

I am pretty set on Jesse not dying. I think the symmetry of him making it out of the business alive and free while Walt is either dead or doomed to a life of misery would put a great end to the show, and I don't think they'll end it on an entirely dark note.

WRT Mike, I don't know if he'd even be aware that Brock was poisoned. I think that he would know that Gus didn't do it once he found out, but for the time being I think Mike is going to be in the dark. I think we're going to see Walt trying to convince Mike to work for him, as it becomes increasingly more clear that Mike wasn't working for Gus alone.

I also think Jesse has an inkling of suspicion of Walt. The final scene of the season where they're talking on the rooftop just didn't quite feel like Jesse really understood what had happened to Brock, and I think he'd be suspicious enough that he wouldn't quite accept pinning it on unfortunate coincidence. I don't think his suspicion of Walt was completely dispelled after the scene at Walt's apartment where Jesse held a gun to his head.

An entirely dark note is pretty much the only way it can end imo.

It's odd how everyone ITT sees Jesse as some kind of sympathetic hero. He is basically just as bad as Walt, he is just slower getting to the same moral place as Walt.

Both love their families or surrogate families.
Both have provided copious amounts of drugs for profit.
Both have murdered people for personal gain.
Both have shown remorse.

The only real difference is the speed at which they change morality. Jesse is basically now where Walt was in season 3. Given a few more seasons (time in the show) Jesse would be where Walt is now.

Does that make Jesse a better person. I dont really think so.

This is interesting. I was just coming in here to post that I think Jesse will still continue to produce meth with Walt but I couldn't determine a motivation for him doing so. Maybe the first few episodes will see Jesse becoming "badder"

I'm not sure why you think that was the case, but I can't imagine the show was in danger of not having more seasons while they were writing s4. I think they went that route because Gus simply had to die to advance the plot and that's how they chose to do it.

I hate Walt. I want nothing but for his character to ultimately wind up in a place of misery and failure. I could expand upon this but I've probably already beaten it to death ITT. I'll just summarize by asking those of you who root for Walt to ask yourself a question. Do you expect season 5 to be a story of redemption for Walt's character?

Well, Jesse has been manipulated so badly by Walt. Jesse's moral compass is a lot more apparent than Walt's. The episode Peekaboo in s2 is a great example of this. Jesse is legit torn up over a meth head killing her husband because he feels so much empathy for the kid. In s3, he's convinced he's the bad guy, blames himself for Jane's death, the plane crash. Walt is broken up over Jane's death for all of 2 mins and doesn't even give the plane crash a second thought in fact making a big point of telling everyone to just "move on" at that school assembly. At the end of s3, when it seems all hope is lost, Jesse PLEADS with Walt several times to take the witness protection route and pack up shop. When Walt forces his hand to kill Gale, Jesse has some sort of mental breakdown whereas Walt has convinced himself that it was self-defense (lol).

Walt shows almost no remorse or guilt for his actions whatsoever. Jesse does so at every turn.

He thinks that was the case because Vince Gilligan said as much. They wrote the s4 finale as a series finale because renewal hadn't been guaranteed yet. When AMC decided to give them 16 more episodes, Gilligan was excited to pursue more storylines but would have been satisfied ending it there. And so would I, as a viewer. It was a great conclusion. But I'm sure seasons 5A and 5B (or 5 and 6, whatever they want to call it) will be even better, because that's what Breaking Bad does. Just keeps getting better.

EDIT: I found the quote from Gilligan himself: