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09-23-2013 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hate_888
Agreed. I get what they were trying to do there, but at least they should have let him fail once of twice to give it SOME plausibility.
he coulda fell 100 times for all we know
earlier in the episode they show him not reaching the bars of the gate
then finally they show him hanging on and opening the latch, but don't show him getting through the hole, we just see him running away.
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09-23-2013 , 02:41 PM
I guess its illegal to be the lawyer for a drug dealer/ murderer now? The only way Saul could be implicated in anything is if Skyler tells the feds whatever it is she actually knows he was involved with. How are they going to pull off the spin off for the better call saul show now?!?!?!!?!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?
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09-23-2013 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
wtf with the people who don't understand why Saul is on the run. Saul is a not a legit lawyer. He is a straight up criminal who was an active participant in a criminal enterprise that has blown to pieces. What is so hard to comprehend?
Prove it.
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09-23-2013 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by john voight
My weekly lol @ BB list:

Uncle jack not killing jesse b/c todd has a thing for lydia. complete lol.

As pointed out by many, lol @ the jesse escape. His success rate for jumping off the bucket and grabbing onto the cage w/o noise is like ~5%.

Him getting that latch open, and lifting the top which weighs prolly close to 30~lbs = ~5%.

Oh yeah, him losing the hanndcuffs, ~0.
Lol @ not kiliing him after the escape.
Lol at Jr.'s Principal being such a milf.
Lol @ grey matter motivating walt to not give up.
what show have you been watching?

stop nitting about the escape espeically when you're wrong
maybe he did make noise- did you notice he got caught?

uncle jack gave walt a barrel of money, him letting jessie live so his nephew could make meth and try to bang lydia is very plausible

losing the handcuffs is easy
after the escape they killed andrea which hurts jessie more than killie jessie and they can still make meth

most of the women on the show are nothing special, why can't one be hot for her age? you've never seen a hot milf in real life?
this isn't king of queens where a slob ups drives has an insanely hot wife

grey matter doesnt motivate him not to give up
the idea that his meth is still being produced and sold all over the place is
remmeber how enraged he got when hank thought gale was heisnenburg?walt needs it to be know he's the guy who makes the great meth.

lol@you
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09-23-2013 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Perspicacity
Knowing and being able to do anything about it are very different. Hank knew Walt was Heisenberg, and still went crazy trying to find enough evidence to prove it in order to get him locked up.

Advocating for a drugpin isn't illegal--so the feds would have to be able to prove that Saul and his cronies were directly involved in Walt's criminal activity, which seems logistically difficult to me. They'd need to find his money or get Huell to implicate his boss or something. When you stop and think about it, there's less dirt on Saul than you might think.

And besides...why would they be willing to give Skyler immunity and not Saul? His transgressions are relatively minor in the grand scheme. I'd think if he were willing to give up the people he has protected, he too would be offered some plea deal.
First bold: Hank was surveilling Saul's office when Pinkman came barging in after the failed pick up/cigarette thing. He thought Pinkman would be a better chance of getting evidence against Walter but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have gone back to the Lawyer angle if Pinkman proved otherwise. Basically he was already on to Saul but in the end he had that great idea with the rental van / fake photo thing and ended up finding all the evidence he needed and made the arrest lol!

Second: Just how little weight are you giving this case in the grand scheme of things? It's only one notch below full blown terrorism with a drug war that led to a bombing + DEA gonna go full blown after their own were taken out. That phone call he made to Skyler reveals so much. That's way too much for Saul to be able to handle.

He wasn't exactly an arm chair lawyer only used for fleeting advisements from some office far removed. He got his hands way dirty.
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09-23-2013 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
saul having to disappear is a bit ridiculous but at the same time the whole lawyer selling out mike earlier this season was more ridiculous so i guess its already been established in this series that being a lawyer for a criminal is illegal.
Money laundering is illegal, conspiracy to commit murder is illegal, RICO is illegal. Just because he's a lawyer doesn't mean he's immune to the law. Not to mention that Lydia might want to tie up that loose end.
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09-23-2013 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by warchant09
I guess its illegal to be the lawyer for a drug dealer/ murderer now? The only way Saul could be implicated in anything is if Skyler tells the feds whatever it is she actually knows he was involved with. How are they going to pull off the spin off for the better call saul show now?!?!?!!?!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?
jessi told everything on the video
he wanted to kill saul for taking the ricin to poison brock
it's pretty safe to say he told them all about sauls money laundering and meth distribution connections which is illegal

and better call saul is a prequel
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09-23-2013 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by warchant09
I guess its illegal to be the lawyer for a drug dealer/ murderer now? The only way Saul could be implicated in anything is if Skyler tells the feds whatever it is she actually knows he was involved with. How are they going to pull off the spin off for the better call saul show now?!?!?!!?!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?
It has been stated numerous times in this thread and elsewhere on the internet that the Saul spinoff is a prequel.

How about the fact that Saul has no idea where Huell is? For all he knows, 1. Huell has turned on Saul and is talking to the cops/DEA right now, or 2. someone has killed Huell and is going to go after Saul next. Saul can feel the heat and knows his best move is to get out now.
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09-23-2013 , 02:48 PM
oh yea and saul rightfully fears for his life when so many people involved are dropping like flies
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09-23-2013 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
oh yea and saul rightfully fears for his life when so many people involved are dropping like flies
lol this

Dunno why Saul running away is so ridiculous for some people
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09-23-2013 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
what show have you been watching?

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grey matter doesnt motivate him not to give up
the idea that his meth is still being produced and sold all over the place is
remmeber how enraged he got when hank thought gale was heisnenburg?walt needs it to be know he's the guy who makes the great meth.
All of this is spot on except for the first sentence.

Walt has never gotten over the fact that he co-founded Gray Matter (now worth billions) as a young scientist and then left it. His need for recognition overpowers his more sympathetic drive to set his family up financially. As he tells Jesse of his deal with Declan: “You asked me if I was in the meth business or the money business. Neither. I’m in the empire business.”

Walt is highly motivated by the Gray Matter stuff. They are going to die.


And yes, he also wants to be known as the guy that cooked the best meth. He's going after any one involved in selling his blue meth. They are going to die.

The last episode is gonna be so sick
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09-23-2013 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by R18A1I4
Found this on Reddit. Surprisingly, it's actually not some omgomg5shadowing bull****.

http://extramustard.si.com/2013/09/2...ame-from-1998/
this is pretty cool
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09-23-2013 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabby Hayes
Saul, on the run, managing a Cinnabon would make a great spin-off!
I think I prefer the actual spin-off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Call_Saul
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09-23-2013 , 03:11 PM
There is a BB discussion on 2p2?? I'm such a noob
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09-23-2013 , 03:14 PM
It's pretty much AIDS and if you've avoided it thus far, best keep on avoiding.
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09-23-2013 , 03:20 PM
On the Emmy red carpet last night, Bryan Cranston said something about how the show was ending at just the right time, at its apex. And that struck me as interesting because in many ways the show itself is about what happens when you don't know it's time to quit. That was driven home in stark relief last night when Andrea was killed. If Jesse hadn't gone back to ABQ to seek revenge, if he'd just gotten in the Cleaner's van when it pulled up, he'd be a free man and Andrea and Brock would be alive and well.

On another note, I disagree that if Jesse had a death wish he should have kept climbing the fence. They want him alive, so they wouldn't have shot to kill - just shot him in the leg or knee to keep him from escaping. That would have made him even more miserable in his dungeon and really thwarted any further escape attempt.

Finally, this is totally random but the detail of the vacuum guy bringing Walt two dozen pair of reading glasses so he could maybe read the newspapers reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode where Burgess Meredith is the last man on earth and he's happy he'll finally have time to read all the books he wants to -- and then he breaks his glasses. Just something about Walt going from feeling on top of his world to being completely isolated from, and yet still dependent on, the modern world. So chillingly pathetic.
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09-23-2013 , 03:21 PM
semi-grunching, but I don't see how Jesse escaping is such a big deal, once you undo the latch (which anyone could do as long as you could grab a hold of the bars) all you need to do is hang upside down (you know, like every ****ing child can do on the monkey bars at a playground) and open the door with your legs. Anyone saying this is LOLOMG impossible is probably a 95lb pussy who can't do a pushup.
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09-23-2013 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
jessi told everything on the video
he wanted to kill saul for taking the ricin to poison brock
it's pretty safe to say he told them all about sauls money laundering and meth distribution connections which is illegal

and better call saul is a prequel
The only two people from any law enforcement agency who saw the video are both dead and the video is now with Todd and his crew but did Saul even know that video existed? It does make sense that he fears for his safety with Jesse being in the wind and for all he knows Huell turned on him. I didn't know the spin off is going to be a prequel but I'm happy to hear that it is. I don't search for BB info on the net (don't want to run into any spoilers) and I don't read every post itt, my bad.
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09-23-2013 , 03:23 PM
I'd love that too..

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Man I wish there was some way Beaver and Skinny Pete could get the rest of the money Walt leaves in the cabin.


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09-23-2013 , 03:23 PM
To be fair that does kind of describe Jesse.
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09-23-2013 , 03:25 PM
I do remember - when the DEA agents ran into Marie's house - there was a CD (or dvd) on the floor. Wonder who ended up with Walt's "confession" tape? If Nazi's had it - wouldn't we have seen it??
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09-23-2013 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SenseiSingh

Second: Just how little weight are you giving this case in the grand scheme of things? It's only one notch below full blown terrorism with a drug war that led to a bombing + DEA gonna go full blown after their own were taken out. That phone call he made to Skyler reveals so much. That's way too much for Saul to be able to handle.

He wasn't exactly an arm chair lawyer only used for fleeting advisements from some office far removed. He got his hands way dirty.
Full blown terrorism and a bombing. Ok, call it whatever you like. The fact remains that most of the real dirty stuff fall way short of Saul. As far as the Feds know, he represented a client who was a drug dealer and a murderer. Nothing illegal about that.

The best thing that Skyler would have on Saul is that he helped them to launder money, but he wasn't even a big player in that after they decided they wanted to go the car wash route as opposed to the laser tag route.

The ricin cigarette pull? Good luck trying to prove that. Jesse is the only one who knows about it, and he has no evidence. There is no ricin, Brock wasn't poisoned, and there's no murder.

Telling Walt about the hospital where Gus used to visit Hector so he could kill him? That's just hearsay from Jesse.

Everything else Walt has basically done on his own. There are just no bodies that can be traced back to Saul.
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09-23-2013 , 03:30 PM
To help deflect the off-base complaints about Jesse's escape (especially since the whole point was to make you think he was gonna pull off a crazy movie-like escape only to crush your hopes, which they did perfectly) how about:

Why is Walt's hair growing back despite getting chemo in the lodge? Is he just not getting a strong enough dose? Any doctors out there to explain my ignorance?
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09-23-2013 , 03:37 PM
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First bold:Hank was surveilling Saul's office when Pinkman came barging in after the failed pick up/cigarette thing. He thought Pinkman would be a better chance of getting evidence against Walter but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have gone back to the Lawyer angle if Pinkman proved otherwise. Basically he was already on to Saul but in the end he had that great idea with the rental van / fake photo thing and ended up finding all the evidence he needed and made the arrest lol!
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Originally Posted by Perspicacity
The ricin cigarette pull? Good luck trying to prove that. Jesse is the only one who knows about it, and he has no evidence. There is no ricin, Brock wasn't poisoned, and there's no murder.
reading comprehension fail
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09-23-2013 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by R18A1I4
Found this on Reddit. Surprisingly, it's actually not some omgomg5shadowing bull****.

http://extramustard.si.com/2013/09/2...ame-from-1998/
This is pretty amazing. Wonder if the 6 goals represents 6 deaths.
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