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05-03-2010 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
also massive LOL at the cousin saying "too easy" after hank crippled his brother, avoided multiple shots while jumping out the back of the van AND getting the jump on him 30m seconds later when he was stalking him between parked cars.
I think this was due to his brother having been hurt, it makes sense that he'd feel the need to inflict more suffering than he had previously desired.
05-03-2010 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
I think this was due to his brother having been hurt, it makes sense that he'd feel the need to inflict more suffering than he had previously desired.
meh. still the guy is obv a worthy opponent just kill him a;ready.
05-03-2010 , 12:15 AM
Gotta throw in that Jesse's two speeches in this ep were awesome.
05-03-2010 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
meh. still the guy is obv a worthy opponent just kill him a;ready.
Obv, I agree that the whole scene was frustrating (especially considering the minute where Hank was in the car figuring out if it was real was awesome and intense).
05-03-2010 , 12:20 AM
i hate to say it but I think when the show is over I think we may look back on this episode as BB jumping the Shark moment. The 1st Jessie monologue was LOL bad. The 2nd one was better but Walt's reaction was ridiculous.


The end scene with Hank and the Cousins was soo terrible it may have ruined the entire series for me.. In one scene it disproved my earlier comment about the writing being to good to resort to soap opera tactics. This scene pissed me off soo ****ing much!!

All along the cousins have been invincible, unstoppable, killing machines like something out of a terminator movie, then all of a sudden when their vengeance is LITERALLY dead in their sights, they resort to Bull**** hack crap like this like something out of an Austin Powers movie. What will be next laser sharks????
05-03-2010 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
Alan Sepinwall and Dan Fienberg were freaking out on their podcast today about how good this week's episode is going to be. They said that (1) it's even crazier than last week; and (2) Aaron Paul will submit that episode as his Emmy tape and should win for it.
I never heard of these guys, but now I don't give them much credibiity.
05-03-2010 , 12:30 AM
Won't Skylar connect Hank's fate with Walt now?

I really hope the show can 'recover' from that episode.
05-03-2010 , 12:32 AM
Kinda surprised to see so much hate for this episode. I thought it was easily the best of the series. This show was never realistic so complaining about the ending is sort of weird. The whole episode was setting us up for Hank's death and his unexpected survival was just awesome television. Also, remember Hank talking about how he thinks the universe is trying to tell him something? Well the ending clearly plays into this theme. My only real complaint about the episode is Jessie's first speech. Other than that, I'm just amazed at how good this show is.
05-03-2010 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by HIV
the guy who sold them the vests was rabbit from super troopers right? anyone confirm? i think so, anyways he was great
pretty sure he is one of the McPoyle brothers from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

Thought this episode/season has been amazing, I'm also think jesse might have some bad intentions while teaming up with Walt. Also there's a good chance that people will assume that Jesse ordered mexican brothers to put the hit on Hank so it will be interesting how that pans out.
05-03-2010 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by STA654
Yeah, that was pretty unrealistic.

Hank should have either gotten the F out of there after the phone call or gotten killed.
It seemed like he was having a mini anxiety attack after the call.
05-03-2010 , 12:44 AM
People overreacting itt
05-03-2010 , 01:02 AM
Also, some more interesting speculation about the DEA Boss possibly being the one that tipped off hank. Before he got on the elevator he told him "Maybe you have a guardian angel."
05-03-2010 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mrw8419
pretty sure he is one of the McPoyle brothers from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Ya, looked alot like him.
05-03-2010 , 01:04 AM
Do all of you complaining about Walter bringing Jessie back not understand that they've formed a serious father-son type relationship since they started cooking together? The whole "I don't know what kind of relationship you think we have" line to Skylar definitely had a double meaning just to reinforce it, then Jesse is really just looking for Walter's approval.
05-03-2010 , 01:06 AM
lots of stuff in this episode really ****ed up the story for me. first time in this shows history i can feel myslef losing interest.

it feels a lot like after the first season of prison break, how ludacris it just ended up being.
05-03-2010 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by iTz gUidO yO
Gotta throw in that Jesse's two speeches in this ep were awesome.
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Originally Posted by Pocket Trips
The 1st Jessie monologue was LOL bad.
Only a show so viscerally exciting and dramatically juiced up can get its fans in such a tizzy over everything, and the two quotes above show just how polarizing the show can be sometimes. In that way this episode was a lot like 2.13 which split everyone down the middle.

I actually loved Aaron Paul in this episode. His venom-spitting I'm-gonna-git-u-sucka monologue about Hank was really bad-ass and I thought he delivered it well. The more vulnerable lost-soul-scorned-son spite rant to Walt was equally well delivered and carried further by a great makeup job.

The last 10 minutes could not have been more beautifully directed imo. Hank hears the boss say "maybe you've got a guardian angel" and then steps into the closing elevator doors and you're like oh-crap-he-gonna-get-whacked. Then the walk through the parking lot builds suspense, the phone call kicks things off, and then melee.

At the time I was knocked out by how well done everything was. I absolutely had no idea what would happen. First I thought maybe the brothers aren't coming. Then they shot at him and I thought he'd die. Then he rammed brother #1 and I thought he'd get away. Then brother #2 went after him and shot Hank and I was sure he was dead. But then he walks away to get the axe and Hank finds the hollow point and I thought oh-snap mistake, ese. But then he couldn't load the gun in time and I figured Hank was done for, but then of course boom headshot.

By the time the dust settled and my heart rate went back to normal, I thought about the scene rationally and don't really like it. As someone else said, these brothers were ruthless killing machines and even though they'd never been too technically graceful, they've been characterized as effective. So it didn't make sense that they'd lose to an unarmed cop. And you could see the writers almost realized that and got Hank shot up pretty bad just when you thought he'd get away, but ultimately they'd rather continue the series with Hank than with the cousins.

I like that idea from the standpoint that we've come to know this character and Dean Norris is a better actor than the Moncados, but I don't like it from a storytelling perspective because in a show this darkly realistic, I'd expect Hank to get whacked right there. Too many convenient things had to happen for him to survive that gunfight. And the whole "nah, I won't shoot you, that's TOO EASY" excuse to save Hank's life was perilously close to horrible-TV-cliche. Bummed me out in retrospect. But damn was it well executed.

That's Ed, holy crap has Hank had a rough couple weeks!
05-03-2010 , 01:13 AM
Also, it was a cool detail that the clock showed 3:07 and it was episode 3:07, then right at the end it showed 3:08.
05-03-2010 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by private joker
Only a show so viscerally exciting and dramatically juiced up can get its fans in such a tizzy over everything, and the two quotes above show just how polarizing the show can be sometimes. In that way this episode was a lot like 2.13 which split everyone down the middle.

I actually loved Aaron Paul in this episode. His venom-spitting I'm-gonna-git-u-sucka monologue about Hank was really bad-ass and I thought he delivered it well. The more vulnerable lost-soul-scorned-son spite rant to Walt was equally well delivered and carried further by a great makeup job.

The last 10 minutes could not have been more beautifully directed imo. Hank hears the boss say "maybe you've got a guardian angel" and then steps into the closing elevator doors and you're like oh-crap-he-gonna-get-whacked. Then the walk through the parking lot builds suspense, the phone call kicks things off, and then melee.

At the time I was knocked out by how well done everything was. I absolutely had no idea what would happen. First I thought maybe the brothers aren't coming. Then they shot at him and I thought he'd die. Then he rammed brother #1 and I thought he'd get away. Then brother #2 went after him and shot Hank and I was sure he was dead. But then he walks away to get the axe and Hank finds the hollow point and I thought oh-snap mistake, ese. But then he couldn't load the gun in time and I figured Hank was done for, but then of course boom headshot.

By the time the dust settled and my heart rate went back to normal, I thought about the scene rationally and don't really like it. As someone else said, these brothers were ruthless killing machines and even though they'd never been too technically graceful, they've been characterized as effective. So it didn't make sense that they'd lose to an unarmed cop. And you could see the writers almost realized that and got Hank shot up pretty bad just when you thought he'd get away, but ultimately they'd rather continue the series with Hank than with the cousins.

I like that idea from the standpoint that we've come to know this character and Dean Norris is a better actor than the Moncados, but I don't like it from a storytelling perspective because in a show this darkly realistic, I'd expect Hank to get whacked right there. Too many convenient things had to happen for him to survive that gunfight. And the whole "nah, I won't shoot you, that's TOO EASY" excuse to save Hank's life was perilously close to horrible-TV-cliche. Bummed me out in retrospect. But damn was it well executed.

That's Ed, holy crap has Hank had a rough couple weeks!
agree, the "too easy" was just a cop out for Hank to live. But even if this ep was slow it doesn't mean its bad. And I don't get the hate for Jesse's speeches. I don't watch a lot of TV so I can't be a TV critic snob but its not unrealistic or too over the top after getting beaten half to death by a cop that emotions like that would come out.
05-03-2010 , 01:20 AM
axes do not stick in asphalt

not taking any defensive action when a car is coming towards you or the guy you're standing over is fiddling with a gun - come on

i have no problem with the 'too easy' line, but ffs, when you come back and you see him messing with the gun again, at least kick it away or something
05-03-2010 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckRaise
well that was ****ing stupid, what a joke
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Originally Posted by elgreenhornet
dumb ending, pretty disappointing overall

the car had one place to go and he decided to stand there
wtf is wrong with u guys
05-03-2010 , 01:29 AM
wow, the teaser for the next ep on amctv.com is great...

"roll me further bitch"
05-03-2010 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by STA654
I could be the bald guy with Gus's OK or instruction.
I think this is by far the most likely scenario.
05-03-2010 , 01:39 AM
well i thought it was a great episode. so what if hank lived by a cop out? it was super exciting.

not sure what to make of the jesse monologues. i dont think they were designed to be serious. just more of jesses emo-grandiose stubborn personality. like a joke.

so the questions are who called hank? gotta be the pollos guy or someone affiliated with him. why did he call hank?

and what was up with the phone call to the mexican drug kinpin at the beginning?
05-03-2010 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by HIV
i dont think the person who called up hank was gus OR the guy gus hired to bug walts house, i believe the voice was someone different entirely...perhaps a new character or someone we forgot about but has ties to hank?
Dude, the caller was using something that disguised his voice.

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Originally Posted by ludacris
And at this point I'm not sure why he wouldn't just have Jesse killed...

After making Jesse hundreds of thousands of dollars he is so ungrateful and unappreciative.
Really?
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Originally Posted by STA654
Because Walt is really just a nice guy that doesn't want to kill one of his former students?
Walt clearly cares about Jesse, as he's basically the closest thing to family he has left. He treats him like garbage, mostly, but Walt being abusive of his lab assistants is part of a pattern of behavior at this point. It's no wonder Walt couldn't find a better job than high school chemistry teacher; he's awful with people.
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