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05-02-2010 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by STA654
The bald investigator guy was tracking the cousins to make sure they didn't kill Walt.

It could also be Gus, though.

I could be the bald guy with Gus's OK or instruction.
i will concede its much likelier for the bald dude to be following either hank or the cousions.

so probably bald dudes call with gus giving the OK.
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05-02-2010 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
This really, really pisses me off. I'd like to see the final scene make a little more sense, but I can't think of anything except how Walt ruined a perfect thing by bringing Jesse in (though I guess that guy was stealing his secrets or whatever).
walt has a soft spot for jesse obv, even though its a major weakness to have. by giving jesse the job hes essentially saving jesses life.

as for the secretes aspect i dont think hank cares. he wasnt even going to cook anymore and 3m is a nice payday to walk away.
05-02-2010 , 11:22 PM
Gus could have ordered one of his employees to warn Hank so that there is a decent chance Hank manages to get rid of the cousins.

This is assuming Gus thinks Hank still has a gun
05-02-2010 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by STA654
The handgun going from one of the cousin's hands, through the windshield, to a spot close enough for Hank to quickly grab was absurd.
Yeah that whole ending scene really ruined the ep for me. No chance Hank survives that. I actually really liked the Jesse scenes though. Def worst ep of the season imo, although every other one has been awesome.
05-02-2010 , 11:24 PM
and damn, those expanding bullets are sick
05-02-2010 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by STA654
Gus could have ordered one of his employees to warn Hank so that there is a decent chance Hank manages to get rid of the cousins.

This is assuming Gus thinks Hank still has a gun
yeah i agree. gus has to realize that there is a good chance the cousins want walt dead anyway after killing hank so he might as well freeroll that hank kills at least one of em etc....

plus gus might not be an outright scumbag.
05-02-2010 , 11:29 PM
Walt getting rid of Gale made little sense imo... He seems very enthusiastic about chemistry and having a lab partner that shared his passion and ambition would make me think Walt would gravitate towards him due to his lack of other viable relationships. It would make much more sense for him to become 50/50 partners with Gale than Jesse, who just causes unnecessary drama and adds no value to the product.
05-02-2010 , 11:29 PM
Maybe...
1. Gus tells cousins to kill Hank.
2. Gus wants Hank to kill cousins so they can't touch Walt. He has bald investigator guy trail cousins.
3. Gus, unaware Hank no longer has his gun, gives okay for bald investigator guy to warn Hank when cousins are close.
05-02-2010 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ludacris
Walt getting rid of Gale made little sense imo... He seems very enthusiastic about chemistry and having a lab partner that shared his passion and ambition would make me think Walt would gravitate towards him due to his lack of other viable relationships. It would make much more sense for him to become 50/50 partners with Gale than Jesse, who just causes unnecessary drama and adds no value to the product.
Uhh, he wants to bring in Jesse so he doesn't have to choose between definite jail time and having Jesse killed. To do this he must get rid of Gale
05-02-2010 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by STA654
The handgun going from one of the cousin's hands, through the windshield, to a spot close enough for Hank to quickly grab was absurd.
especially when hank could just as easily has his own registered gun in the glove box or something. as a cop i dont know if you have to turn those in upon suspension. i doubt it though as its a personal right in gun friendly states which NM is i think.
05-02-2010 , 11:33 PM
I think it's quite possible that bald investigator dude just has a similar moral compass to Hank's and was striking out on his own.
05-02-2010 , 11:34 PM
Also possible that it was just a Gus double cross - opening scene hinted at this a bit.
05-02-2010 , 11:34 PM
Yes, but if the cousins were killed by Hank that would be very convenient for Gus.

Both are plausible.
05-02-2010 , 11:38 PM
the guy who sold them the vests was rabbit from super troopers right? anyone confirm? i think so, anyways he was great

clearly we can see now that gus doesnt just want walt for his formula. two reasons, first he so willingly gave up gabe. second it makes sense business wise, gus knew the cousins were loose cannons and would pretty much take care of themselves as long as walt was kept alive. he definitely is looking for a long term thing with walt as he knows he could make him a lot of money

i dont think the person who called up hank was gus OR the guy gus hired to bug walts house, i believe the voice was someone different entirely...perhaps a new character or someone we forgot about but has ties to hank?

jesse had a very very evil look in his eyes after he hung up the phone with walt. there is a possiblity that he has malicious intentions and is only accepting walts offer so that he can backstab him....jane meant everything to him so im not convinced just cause hes busto he will sell out and be straight with walt again just for money

but yea best episode in the history of television ainec
05-02-2010 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by STA654
Uhh, he wants to bring in Jesse so he doesn't have to choose between definite jail time and having Jesse killed. To do this he must get rid of Gale
And at this point I'm not sure why he wouldn't just have Jesse killed...

After making Jesse hundreds of thousands of dollars he is so ungrateful and unappreciative. And then there's his new friend that shares the same viewpoints and he connects with and shares a bond with and obviously respects more than Jesse...
05-02-2010 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HIV
the guy who sold them the vests was rabbit from super troopers right? anyone confirm? i think so, anyways he was great
i'm positive it wasn't him
05-02-2010 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
I think it's quite possible that bald investigator dude just has a similar moral compass to Hank's and was striking out on his own.
could be, but

a) we haven't seen any behavior by him to suggest so

b) its not a wise move for him personally. efffing with your bosses orders when hes a massive drug dealer seem -EV
05-02-2010 , 11:43 PM
I hope that at some point Jesse finds out Walt let Jane die. That'd make for such a compelling scene.
05-02-2010 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ludacris
And at this point I'm not sure why he wouldn't just have Jesse killed...
Because Walt is really just a nice guy that doesn't want to kill one of his former students?
05-02-2010 , 11:46 PM
I felt this episode dragged a bit until the end, which more than made up for it. Only thing I really didn't like was Walt constantly visiting Jesse in his hotel room. Wouldn't it raise some eyebrows that the brother in law of the guy that beat the patient up was constantly visiting?
05-02-2010 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ludacris
And at this point I'm not sure why he wouldn't just have Jesse killed...

After making Jesse hundreds of thousands of dollars he is so ungrateful and unappreciative. And then there's his new friend that shares the same viewpoints and he connects with and shares a bond with and obviously respects more than Jesse...
walt has done some bad things, but hes not an evil person. its not like hes picking who to be BFF with here, its either have a kid he somewhat has affection for killed or fire some dude he knew for a week.
05-02-2010 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmeister
I felt this episode dragged a bit until the end, which more than made up for it. Only thing I really didn't like was Walt constantly visiting Jesse in his hotel room. Wouldn't it raise some eyebrows that the brother in law of the guy that beat the patient up was constantly visiting?

yeah this bothered me also, in the same way hanging around the salvage yard last week did.
05-02-2010 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmeister
I felt this episode dragged a bit until the end, which more than made up for it. Only thing I really didn't like was Walt constantly visiting Jesse in his hotel room. Wouldn't it raise some eyebrows that the brother in law of the guy that beat the patient up was constantly visiting?
Walt can't help himself from visiting Jesse, obv.
05-03-2010 , 12:00 AM
nothing about that episode dragged imo. as intense (if not more so) than any hour of television i have ever seen. seriously masterful ****.
05-03-2010 , 12:02 AM
also massive LOL at the cousin saying "too easy" after hank crippled his brother, avoided multiple shots while jumping out the back of the van AND getting the jump on him 30m seconds later when he was stalking him between parked cars.
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