Are we sure Howard is dead? I didn’t see any oranges.

yeah he's a goner.

I hope next episode we get a scene with them cleaning his brains of the wall!

i miss this reference

Gilligan montage of that will be perfect

what do they do with Howard? Just make him disappear?

like the 3rd (?) ep of breaking bad
when they were cleaning up the guy jesse dissolved in the tub

maybe that's part of lalo's play here, see who they call to help, and hey, if it's michael, oh baby


that execution had shades of gale & box cutter too

loads of bb callbacks in this huh, why not

been too long since i watched the previous season. was saul involved in lalo's betrayal somehow?

Yeah that's what I don't really get. As far as I can remember, Saul went to get Lalo's money in the desert and had no part in his betrayal.

I'm confused as to what actually happened there. Who were the guys who tried to rob the money from Saul working for? Why was Mike there to save him? Why is Lalo so convinced Saul was lying about the car breaking down, when the money got delivered and he made bail as planned? That whole thing is still confusing to me.

don't think so
but the fact that he previously represented lalo and michael can't be good for him

though would there be a paper trail on either? neither situation went very far


also what happened to all that mess, did mike say they cleaned it up (lol)? can't remember


they were tipped off by that one dude within their operation anyway
just trying to steal an easy score, worth the risk i guess

They laid the groundwork for a mental breakdown so them faking a suicide is the easy thing to do. Probably with Mike’s help. But I don’t see VG and company taking the easy route lol

think they have to disappear him, bc for one the vet was saying that the stuff they gave him won't come up on a normal blood test, but if he turns up dead like that they're probably doing the works on the autopsy, especially given how everything went down

G&G are hard to predict but I would bet they aren't reporting this to the police. Lalo might be able to invoke attorney-client privilege anyway.

Saul lied about the incident in the desert to Lalo. Lalo knows he was lying bc they found the car and it was all shot up and I think there was other evidence.

I dont remember who tried to rob him. Was it the same Peruvians that Nacho claimed to work for ie just some random other cartel? maybe affiliated with the people that Nacho and the twins shot up in that warehouse? maybe an inside job from someone in Eladios org? like Bolsa?

and I dont know why Mike saved him either. maybe bc Mike is a good guy but usually Mike does that stuff at Gus's behest. so I guess inside cartel job makes sense since then Gus had knowledge of it and sent Mike bc for some reason he wanted to get Lalo out.

I dunno cant remember. or not sure if it was ever made clear.

but its def clear why Lalo feels betrayed Saul. he lied and tried to hide some very important information.

Thing I always thought was that Gus wanted Lalo to make bail because he wanted to kill him, but couldn't do it while he was in the US without attracting too much attention. So he needed him to get bailed out and flee to Mexico where he could arrange to have him killed there. So maybe Gus sent Mike to the desert to make sure Saul got out with the money OK.

I just am not sure why Lalo seemed so convinced Saul was lying to him about car trouble, considering he did in fact deliver all the money and get him bailed out (although it took a little longer than expected, so I guess that is what raised Lalo's suspicions). It feels like Lalo thinks Saul was involved in some sort of betrayal, and he likely thinks that even more after the attempt on his life in Mexico.

From my recollection it was:

The guy in the car shop tips someone off that the psycho cousins came and picked up the cash.

Gus thought putting Lalo in jail would stop him, but it doesn’t because he can still order Nacho around. Gus wants him to get out, because it’s easier to set up the hit in Mexico. So Gus has Mike follow to make sure it goes through.

After the desert hit squad deal, Gus calls Bolsa to tell him Lalo is out, and then says something like - that’s the guy who did it. Presumably, Bolsa is making more money with Gus and wants Lalo to stop screwing it up so he wants to keep him in jail.

Mike saves Jimmy and tells him he has to lie to Lalo, because if he doesn’t then Lalo will know that people are snitching and change up his plans + probably kill Jimmy.

Lalo has plot armor / villain 6th sense on the way out and looks for the car. Maybe he still suspects Jimmy after the confrontation but just left it??

Fast forward to now, and he knows Nacho was snitching. Nacho was the one who brought him Jimmy so he assumes Jimmy is in on it.

Mike had people following Kim (and possibly Saul), did he pull those people when he strengthened security for Gus, or is it possible someone is outside their apartment when Lalo showed up this second time?

He told Gus that he pulled everyone off low-priority targets and that it was "all hands on deck" at Gus' house aside from Tyrus' crew at the laundry, so I would assume Jimmy & Kimmy are on their own.

ok thanks. so Bolsa did it. but its dumb of Bolsa to do it bc its easy to get caught.

and I dont think that Lalo's suspicion of Jimmy is all that 6th sense/plot driven. if anything, it makes the most sense of anything that happened. like I said, Bolsa is making a dangerous play. and I dont get why Gus cares all that much. gotta be easier to kill Lalo in jail than in his Mexican compound. and ofc the real plot armor is geriatric Mike taking a trained hit team and then walking miles thru the desert without water but I get thats gonna be suspension of disbelief and is different than plot decisions.

that and they are garrisoning an underground home fortress for a man who can be easily found at his restaurant.

is the "bolsa was behind it" thing confirmed anywhere in the show or just a theory?


regardless it's a substantial plot hole that they just walked away from ... until coming soon, i guess

In season 5 Mike tells Gus that the desert gang all had the same tattoo and Gus asks him to draw it. Gus recognizes it as a Colombian gang symbol and knows Bolsa has to responsible.

Ugg, AMC+.

Better Call Saul Presents: Slippin' Jimmy

It's animated right?

Yes, not going to watch.