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He pretty much sucked as a returner. No idea if he's even PS material, but he's not good.

Why did this Kurn poster suddenly decide to show up in this thread?

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08-30-2014 , 03:53 AM

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For me its moreso that I think Mallett is 3rd on the QB depth chart. If he stays will he even be active on gameday?

Who knows what players will become available after all the cuts are made around the league. I am not going to mad or upset if they keep Mallett, just think there might be more value to the team in giving the roster spot to someone else.

Mallett is probably heading to Tampa tomorrow along with Wilfork and Vereen, and we're just going to be sitting here on our asses trying to figure out how BB actually sees the game of football.

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08-30-2014 , 05:15 AM

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sort of agree with this, but there are plenty of scenarios where the marginal difference between those 2 guys ends up being really important. imagine a scenario where Brady gets concussed and misses 3 games. the difference between 2-1 and 1-2 in those games could end up being the difference between the #1 and #2 seeds. or in a slightly worse scenario the difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs (with a Brady return pending)

I think that is the scenario where the backup QB matters. if Brady tears his ACL, then yeah basically it doesn't matter so much. unless Peyton also tears his ACL.

Often overlooked scenario. We tend to think of Brady, at his age, either lost for the season or there. He and Peyton have their own special circumstances for losing a season but neither have missed games mid-season. But either could easily get concussed or knocked out for a game or two. Who's stepping in to get that win total up to help their playoff chances?

Personally I would trust Jimmy G at this point, but I don't see them just dropping Mallett.

Expect them to roll with 3 QBs and RM as the #2.

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08-30-2014 , 10:16 AM

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One name to keep in mind for #Patriots left guard? Sebastian Vollmer. Seriously. Then Marcus Cannon could play right tackle

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I'm told the #Patriots had a meeting with the veteran offensive linemen yesterday and told Vollmer about moving to guard, Cannon to tackle

Not something that ever crossed my mind. Has Vollmer ever play OG?

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08-30-2014 , 11:09 AM

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Not something that ever crossed my mind. Has Vollmer ever play OG?

FWIW, I'd think they'd move Cannon instead of Vollmer. Not too keen on a 6' 8" guard.

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08-30-2014 , 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh

FWIW, I'd think they'd move Cannon instead of Vollmer. Not too keen on a 6' 8" guard.

If Dante is still in charge you don't question this idea at all. Right now, you just think, "errrrmm"

PS Kurn are you a real Pats fan or just trolling us all of a sudden?

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08-31-2014 , 12:06 PM

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If Dante is still in charge you don't question this idea at all. Right now, you just think, "errrrmm"

PS Kurn are you a real Pats fan or just trolling us all of a sudden?

Real Pats fan. Lived in RI for the past 11 years, Boston area for 34 years before that.

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08-31-2014 , 12:21 PM

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You're not wrong in your thinking, but I feel that if the coaching staff thought Mallet was clearly one win better over a three game stretch(it's a bigger gap than it sounds), they wouldn't even be considering moving him. The way the preseason has played out, I don't think that's the case.

the difference between the guys (in terms of expected wins added) is probably very marginal. it's of course not 1 win over a 3 game stretch. but since the result of any given game is going to be a win or a loss (or tie) and not 40% of a win, I don't think you can really think about it in those terms.

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08-31-2014 , 01:31 PM

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Mallett to Houston. Want to see the return but have to say I'm a bit surprised.

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08-31-2014 , 02:01 PM

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I think Jimmy deserved to win the back up QB job during pre-season. Once that happened I always thought they would move on from Mallett. 6th rd pick in return is probly fair.

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08-31-2014 , 02:04 PM

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Mallett to Houston. Want to see the return but have to say I'm a bit surprised.

6th round pick is what I've read. Not that surprised at all. Playing Jimmy G for the full game in preseason 4 seemed to telegraph that Mallettt was not their #2 guy.

Texans were the main speculation from many people up here. They need a QB and O'Brien was familiar with Mallett.

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08-31-2014 , 05:49 PM

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The return about is what I expected, I just think its going to be asking a lot of Jimmy G to win games this year. Coaching staff obviously has confidence in him. I'd have used the roster spot on Mallett, although I understand the reasoning.

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08-31-2014 , 06:39 PM

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2 years ago when they cut Hoyer i felt like it was for more off-field reasons such as salary/cap hit. This trade feels totally down to on field reasons. Garappolo won the backup job. If Brady was to go down Garappolo was going to go in ahead of Mallett.

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08-31-2014 , 07:25 PM

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It was asking a lot of Mallett to win games for them, too.

The Pats are going to get a lot of heat for these QB moves, but they found a treasure chest in the sand once upon a time and are still using their metal detector. Replacing Brady will be a unique moment in NFL history and I don't see how you can fault a team for thinking ahead. There are so many worse ways a team could handle this situation. This is a team with a long-term vision in place within its organization's main players, and that's more than you can say for half of the league just trying to win enough games to keep jobs.

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08-31-2014 , 08:15 PM

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What happened to the Salva we used to know and love?

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08-31-2014 , 08:41 PM

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What happened to the Salva we used to know and love?

I'm a gentler, kinder version of Salva these days. Only Goodie will take offense.

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08-31-2014 , 09:11 PM

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It's like, people think I actually like this team.

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09-01-2014 , 05:07 PM

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I like the Jimmy G pick, just think Mallett would be marginally better this year

Replacing Brady is obviously important to the Pats but it isn't historically unique.

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09-02-2014 , 01:55 PM

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Best. Salva. Post. Ever.

You might not be a lost cause yet, Salva.

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09-02-2014 , 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsGambool

I like the Jimmy G pick, just think Mallett would be marginally better this year

Replacing Brady is obviously important to the Pats but it isn't historically unique.

Mallett being better than Jimmy G this year isn't really the question. The question was is keeping Mallett AND Jimmy G on the roster better than keeping just Jimmy G. I think that's what made the decision an easy one.

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09-02-2014 , 03:02 PM

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Yes, obviously I think the value of Mallett over Jimmy G for this season is worth more than the 53rd player on the roster. I think its marginal and wouldnt second guess even if the worst happens, Brady misses six weeks, a guy playing for Eastern Illinois isn't ready when the lights come on and teams game plan, and the season goes down the toilet.

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09-02-2014 , 04:50 PM

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BB says, "Hold the eff on!"

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“I’m glad Rob is optimistic about his situation,” Belichick told reporters during a conference call. “We’ll go through the week of practice and take a look at everything … and do what we feel like is best for the team.”

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/0...onks-optimism/

I assume he plays, but my god, this is beyond frustrating, especially after last year's debacle.

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09-02-2014 , 04:50 PM

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So in 3WR sets this season who is the 3rd WR? taking it for granted that Edelman and Dobson are top 2. Im sure alot of it will depend on the situation but curious what their best combination would be.

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09-02-2014 , 04:51 PM

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Best. Salva. Post. Ever.

You might not be a lost cause yet, Salva.

I still don't like you, so keep personal comments on my posts to a minimum, lol.

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09-02-2014 , 04:53 PM

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Gotta assume it's Amendola. That's why they're paying him. Maybe Thompkins comes out for particular situations. The X's and O's goes beyond my casual fandom.

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