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Originally Posted by Goodie
I think the argument that Brady had a great year in 07 is an argument FOR his greatness. He didn't have the weapons before 07 and still had very good numbers. He was then given the weapons and had one of the greatest seasons a QB has ever had. You don't really think it's all Manning either here. I mean you don't think having Harrison had quite a bit to do with Manning's numbers?
As Big O would say, your making my point.
Harrison hasn't been with the team this season, and last season as well really. Also, Dallas Clark is having a phenomenal season and he sure isn't elite, not to mention Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie who is a rookie played really well or maybe they had a good QB. In '07 Brady had an elite WR come help him and a veteran guy. It isn't like he did what he did with rookies and 1st year guys. Again, you can't take anything away from the guy he knows how to win. But it seems as though all you Pats fans are the same, Brady is the ultimate, has one of the best WR in history (I mean srsly, throw deep into triple coverage and he makes a one handed grab) to help him, and all you can say always about Manning is that, he has the weapons, they make him better is what I get from those statements. But not so for Brady's case. Moss's coming didn't make Brady better? That is a joke.
How about Brees? I suppose, he has just kickass WR's everywhere so that is why he is so good. Maybe he has a bunch of avg. to better than avg. WR's but he is so good that is why they all are getting in on the action. If I could throw the ball 60 yds, I could stand behind the Pats line (as I have stated in an earlier post that I think the Oline is very good) and toss one up to Moss or 7 yds away to Welker to get a bunch of YAC. How much of the yardage is Welkers? Moss has 14 TD's the 2nd guy is 5. IND's WR's 10,10,7. Yardage is skewed like this as well. Moss has 1200 yds where after that it is 400, Colts have 4 guys at 676+.
Last season for the Pats looks much of the same for this season only yardage isn't as much. Welker, Moss, then Faulk (whom is a pimp imo) with just under 500. After Moss, 3 TD's is 2nd. Even in '07 it still the same, Moss 23 TD's, Welker 8. After that, there is a 6 and 5. Yardage, the 3rd best WR was Gaffney with 600+ then it drops to 400. Even in Manning's record breaking season he had 3 1000 yd WR's and all of them have 10 TD's. And it isn't like Stokley is off making some big noise in DEN.
I do agree that pre Moss/Welker the WR core was pretty gross, but still even with Manning having his one stud, he is able to distribute and get others involved in the offense, where clearly here in NE, it is lacking doing so. This to me tells me how good Moss/Welker actually is, also the coaches for recognizing this and using said players in the fashion they do.