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08-08-2014 , 11:39 AM

#601

Iwreckshop

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Originally Posted by cs3

RE: 2 QB leagues

cool, so sounds like going QB QB is the way to go regardless of draft slot?
This is the first year of the league and non of the guys in it have ever played a 2 QB league afaik. 2nd QB is actually a flex so a few guys might not even realize it is in facta a 2 QB setup so I assume even more lol picks.

At what point do you take a 3rd QB? do you ever take one before filling out your entire starting lineup, aside from K/DEF?
I guess Im wondering, is drafting a 3rd QB in say Rd 5 or 6 who is a a starter for his NFL team, more valuable as a future trade piece, than drafting your starting WR3 or TE?
Because I feel like a few starting QBs will slip way waaaaay farther than they should.

I was in a league like this the past two years, and that's what I've tried to do especially when there are no value players on the board or players you are interested in. Say you take 4 top 20 QBs then there are teams that will have to trade you elite RBs and WRs if they want to remain competitive. This strategy is gold only if it's ah active league so keep that in mind

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08-08-2014 , 12:16 PM

#602

Rawlz517

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Maybe like rounds 10-11 is when I snag a QB3. Depends on the draft. It is very important to grab a QB3 and even a QB4. In our 10t league, EVERY starter is rostered and even some backups are. So you need to draft at least a QB3 in case of bye/injury.

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08-08-2014 , 01:32 PM

#603

g-bebe

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Need a manager to take over a team, just a free 2+2 keeper that has been running for a while now:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh....php?t=1219194

PM me, first one who wants it gets it.

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08-08-2014 , 01:36 PM

#604

wesrwood

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Speaking of 2qb the 2qb I'm running with sirrawrsalot escrowing needs one more owner if anyone wants it

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08-08-2014 , 02:16 PM

#605

spacecakezzz

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can anyone tell me why doug martin is slipping? he only hurt his shoulder in a fluke injury. didn't look AMAZING but the whole team sucked last year. he was like a top 5 RB last year. would you be comfortable with him as your #1? is he gonna get all the touches?

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08-08-2014 , 02:50 PM

#606

nit3.runn3r

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Originally Posted by spacecakezzz

I probably won't have him on any of my teams. Wouldn't take him in the first. Probably not in the second over an elite WR either. In the third I'd snap him though. People know like a quarter of his rookie production was one game and last year he was a bust until his injury. This is a "prove it year" for me on him. Could def be a ray rice "when he was good type" though.

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08-08-2014 , 02:55 PM

#607

Wheatsauce

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Yeah all that plus they drafted a RB that may take away some 3rd down/receiving work from him and James was really good after Martin went down so he may get some work too. Also their new OC is supposedly a rbbc proponent.

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08-08-2014 , 03:01 PM

#608

movieman2g

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Bobby Rainey was also pretty good when James went down. I'm happy letting someone else take him for a 1st or mid 2nd. If he slips to the end of the 2nd, I'll take him though

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08-08-2014 , 03:05 PM

#609

The Financier

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Re 2 QB leagues: I think many of you guys are over-reacting. Go look at the point totals for QBs 4-15. All pretty similar. If you can get an AP/Charles/McCoy in the late first round and then a QB in the 2nd you should really do that IMO. If everyone goes QB in the first 2 rounds, thats 20 QBs gone. So the guy drafting 1st will get the top QB and the top RB. Clearly it's a leak to draft QB in the first two rounds automatically when many of them are so similar.

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08-08-2014 , 03:12 PM

#610

cs3

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At least for my draft, Im assuming that most of the league does not adjust properly because none of them have played this structure before, and that I might be able to grab 2 top 5 QBs with my first 2 picks.

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08-08-2014 , 03:36 PM

#611

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Originally Posted by movieman2g

Bobby Rainey was also pretty good when James went down. I'm happy letting someone else take him for a 1st or mid 2nd. If he slips to the end of the 2nd, I'll take him though

Bobby Rainey is great at running the football and catching passes out of the backfield. He's terrible at pass protection though. With them drafting Sims in the third round he's the favorite to be the odd man out.

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08-08-2014 , 03:39 PM

#612

Wheatsauce

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Originally Posted by The Financier

The point isn't that there are a lot of similar qbs...that I agree with. The point is that even though a lot are similar, there still aren't enough of those guys to go around, even in a 10 teamer.

Like someone was saying earlier once a couple of those guys get injured or are less productive than expected all the sudden Philip Rivers is equivalent in value to AP and those that were ahead of the curve and drafted QB heavy are ahead of the game.

Also in that hypothetical the fact that a team could get the top QB and top RB is offset by the fact that their qb2 would be Ryan Tannehill or something.

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08-08-2014 , 03:45 PM

#613

The Financier

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QB20 isn't that far off from QB15

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08-08-2014 , 04:12 PM

#614

cs3

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That might be true, but QB2 + QB6 >>>>> QB10 + QB20.

Even with the top RB and an awesome receiving corps theres no way to make up that many points if you're late to the QB party imo.
ANd I fully exepct at least a couple teams to go into the draft planning to draft a non-QB to start at flex

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08-08-2014 , 05:13 PM

#615

rafiki

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lol thats so sick about Doug Martin. He went #1 in any dynasty or keeper league anyone was starting last year. What a waste. I only dodged getting stuck with him by being #2 in my draft.

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08-08-2014 , 05:25 PM

#616

Rawlz517

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lol people taking Martin first in a dynasty

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08-08-2014 , 07:24 PM

#617

Iwreckshop

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Originally Posted by cs3

This.

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08-08-2014 , 08:20 PM

#618

waterwolves

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Originally Posted by rafiki

lol thats so sick about Doug Martin. He went #1 in any dynasty or keeper league anyone was starting last year. What a waste. I only dodged getting stuck with him by being #2 in my draft.

Lol i would have taken Trent Richardson 1.01 in our Dynasty start up draft if i had the first pick.

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08-08-2014 , 08:23 PM

#619

Rendle

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Spoiler:

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08-08-2014 , 08:56 PM

#620

rafiki

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Originally Posted by waterwolves

Lol i would have taken Trent Richardson 1.01 in our Dynasty start up draft if i had the first pick.

lol I don't believe you

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08-08-2014 , 09:03 PM

#621

luckduck53

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First draft of the year is in a week and I haven't even started making my rankings.

Might be slumming it with a cheat sheet.... gross.

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08-08-2014 , 09:54 PM

#622

34TheTruth34

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Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,416

tried to join a ypl and got a weird error message: "there is already somebody in this league like you". took my money, wouldnt let me join the league then gave me a credit. anybody know what that means? wtf

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08-08-2014 , 10:07 PM

#623

Wheatsauce

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It means you're a basic bitch.

Last edited by Wheatsauce; 08-08-2014 at 10:07 PM. Reason: but srsly, prob just someone from your zipcode or same last name or something

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08-08-2014 , 10:49 PM

#624

Victor

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Originally Posted by cs3

i think combining charles or mccoy with roeth and rivers would make a pretty formidable team. ofc, last yr forte was going late 2nd, early 3rd so you coulda gone manning, stafford, forte.

for some reason stafford was going late last season and i snagged him a lot of regular leagues in the 9th. in the 2qb he went 2.11 i remember.

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08-08-2014 , 10:55 PM

#625

Victor

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in my league 6 qbs went in the first and 7 went in the 2nd. roeth and cutler went early and late 5th. dalton was tremendous value in the early 4th. rivers late 7th was hudge for someone. even palmer in the mid 7th would be very helpful as he put up nice numbers.

waiting on qb is def viable if you hit on em.

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