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07-28-2014 , 10:58 PM
I would say thinking Gronk or Jules will be there after 33 would be risky, but one is almost certainly going to be there at 33.

As for a package deal, idk, I'm not great at the value of picks. Maybe package 4+21?
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07-28-2014 , 11:41 PM
Keeper league trades are always so difficult to look at on paper.

I just traded Jamaal Charles ($56) and Jordan Cameron ($6) for Alshon Jeffrey ($9). We can only keep 3 players and my plan was to not keep Charles anyways. Now I start my 12 team standard scoring with

Alshon ($9)
Lynch ($26)
Gerhart ($10)

And most importantly a lot of cap space for the draft
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07-29-2014 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Strife
Keeper league trades are always so difficult to look at on paper.

I just traded Jamaal Charles ($56) and Jordan Cameron ($6) for Alshon Jeffrey ($9). We can only keep 3 players and my plan was to not keep Charles anyways. Now I start my 12 team standard scoring with

Alshon ($9)
Lynch ($26)
Gerhart ($10)

And most importantly a lot of cap space for the draft
Big time. Its impossible to analyze any given trade because there are so many variables. You traded a stud RB and potential top 5 TE for a stud WR, which may look bad on your end, but the value you get for Jeffrey at $9 and the cap space you freed up is huge.

If anyone is still doing annual snake drafts without keepers you are doing it wrong. My main league is in our 12th season, we switched to keepers and auction draft/free agency bidding 2 seasons ago and its miles better than what we did before, which was snake draft no keepers.
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07-29-2014 , 12:34 AM
Any projections on MJD this year?
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07-29-2014 , 12:37 AM
whats the total budget you have for the draft? 200?
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07-29-2014 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by movieman2g
whats the total budget you have for the draft? 200?
Every auction league I have done has had a draft budget of $200 per team. Free agent auction bidding is a blast too. $100 per team for the season, players are all on waivers until Wednesday morning, and whoever bids highest for any given free agent gets him for that price. Those free agent dollars can also be used in trades. Been a revelation playing in a league that has that rather than the usual free agent system where ****tiest team gets first shot and back to the end of the line, etc.
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07-29-2014 , 01:04 AM
i know, i meant for lord strifes league, it matters when deciding who to keep value wise
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07-29-2014 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by movieman2g
whats the total budget you have for the draft? 200?
Yes 200, thought I included that sorry
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07-29-2014 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by brandoncla
Any projections on MJD this year?
I'll go 900-1000 total yards, 5-6 tds.
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07-29-2014 , 09:03 AM
someone explain to me how devonta freeman isn't being drafted a couple rounds higher than he is? surely he surpasses the corpse of steven jackson by the end of september at the latest
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07-29-2014 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
someone explain to me how devonta freeman isn't being drafted a couple rounds higher than he is? surely he surpasses the corpse of steven jackson by the end of september at the latest
I've tried to get him in every mock I could. Specially keeper leagues. I think you could really justify a reach in a keeper format.
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07-29-2014 , 01:07 PM
Would you guys be interested in doing a few MFL type leagues in house? I'm not sure if any free site would offer the tracking necessary or if it would have to be done by hand. I don't have much history here, so I assume someone else would need to escrow/commish but I'd be willing to keep track of all the points if it can't be done automatically. The edge would obviously be small playing with all you professionals but it would be good practice for softer leagues and the rake is too damn high on that site.
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07-29-2014 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
someone explain to me how devonta freeman isn't being drafted a couple rounds higher than he is? surely he surpasses the corpse of steven jackson by the end of september at the latest
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Originally Posted by rafiki
I've tried to get him in every mock I could. Specially keeper leagues. I think you could really justify a reach in a keeper format.
I like him, but he isn't as big or explosive as I thought he would be, and lacked the 40 speed in testing that's tailor made for a 5'8 guy. FSU steamrolled... Atlanta o-line run blocking? Like his situation with only Jackson and Rodgers infront. Good news is he has good hands, good pass protector, durable, and tough in GL spots.
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07-29-2014 , 02:29 PM
So he sounds kind of like MJD and worst comes to worst he'll be a better version of quiz show?
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07-29-2014 , 02:34 PM
Is this where we are posting keeper advice?

12 team, PPR. 1 keeper, keep him in the round he was drafted in. I am picking 9th in a snake. My options:

Antonio Brown
Current ADP: mid 2nd
Keeper value: 5th

Rob Gronkowski
Current ADP: early 3rd
Keeper value: 4th

Keenan Allen
Current ADP: mid 3rd
Keeper value: 16th

I could also keep any of these guys at 1.09:
LeSean McCoy, Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson.
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07-29-2014 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
So he sounds kind of like MJD and worst comes to worst he'll be a better version of quiz show?
actually a decent comparison. and i dont think he could really be worse than quiz. for keeper leagues, i like him more than sanskey just because the offense will get him more opportunities, but not right out of the gate. i also dont think sjax holds up past week 4 anyway. when did he go down last year? week 2?
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07-29-2014 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fsoyars
Is this where we are posting keeper advice?

12 team, PPR. 1 keeper, keep him in the round he was drafted in. I am picking 9th in a snake. My options:

Antonio Brown
Current ADP: mid 2nd
Keeper value: 5th

Rob Gronkowski
Current ADP: early 3rd
Keeper value: 4th

Keenan Allen
Current ADP: mid 3rd
Keeper value: 16th

I could also keep any of these guys at 1.09:
LeSean McCoy, Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson.
I think it's gotta be Allen...I'd be pretty tempted to just keep Shady though and I think he is the only other reasonable option. How long can you keep players for?
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07-29-2014 , 02:53 PM
fso,

would keep Allen and don't think it's close
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07-29-2014 , 03:01 PM
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I think it's gotta be Allen...I'd be pretty tempted to just keep Shady though and I think he is the only other reasonable option. How long can you keep players for?
Depending on what shady costs for next year, I'd also be tempted to take him at 1.9. No one can fault you for Allen at 16 though, that's definitely the best value
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07-29-2014 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Strife
Keeper league trades are always so difficult to look at on paper.

I just traded Jamaal Charles ($56) and Jordan Cameron ($6) for Alshon Jeffrey ($9). We can only keep 3 players and my plan was to not keep Charles anyways. Now I start my 12 team standard scoring with

Alshon ($9)
Lynch ($26)
Gerhart ($10)

And most importantly a lot of cap space for the draft
I've never played an auction keeper, but how do players being off the board affect the values of whoever is left? While it's nice to have Alshon as a starting point for your receivers, and Lynch/Gerhart is a great 1-2 at those prices, how much of a point is there in having some extra cash available if there's three rounds worth of players off the board? It's not like there'll be great RB's to splash on (would imagine Forte/Lacy/Ball/Bell will be kept cheap, you've said Lynch/Charles are off, McCoy/ADP could easily be kept at face value), so what? Break the bank for a Megatron or similar vet WR? Using it on pricing out people for who you perceive to be the premier rookies could also work but we won't be using all of it there either.

Not being critical and have no huge opinion either way, just wanting to open discussion
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07-29-2014 , 03:27 PM
Got to make some tough Dynasty decisions. 8-team league. Keep any 14 with no penalty, then we have a 4 round snake draft (which I have the 1st pick in, & am almost definitely taking Watkins). 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex/1DST/1K, 6 points for passing TD, no PPR.

QB RWilson/RG3
HB JC/Spiller/DeMarco/Montee/Tate/DMC/DWilson
WR Andre Johnson/Torrey/DHop/Cordarrelle/Wallace/TY/Hakeem/JGordon
TE JGraham

Easier way to look at it is probably which 4 should I not keep. Some difficult decisions on the fringes imo. Going to try to trade a few guys for one really good guy, but tough in this league because hard not to be deep with these rosters in an 8 team league, & people value stars a ton.
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07-29-2014 , 03:37 PM
Would dump Wilson (almost certainly damaged goods), DMC (offers you nothing this season and likely never hits his upside), Hakeem (continually dinged up). Tough from there. You've got the depth of benches to hold Gordon, so I might dump AJ as he's getting older and is apparently not happy with the offence. Wallace would be an easier drop given its a flex but I think he could be more productive down the road given Tannehill will have more experience.

Can you still trade? Something like Wallace/Spiller for, say, Morris might make decisions easier, but I doubt in an 8 you'll be able to trade depth for a better individual.
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07-29-2014 , 03:41 PM
Pretty standard scoring with 0.5 PPR and 3-point bonus for 100 yards.

Who do you keep for 1 year, Bernard or Nelson?
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07-29-2014 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fsoyars
Is this where we are posting keeper advice?

12 team, PPR. 1 keeper, keep him in the round he was drafted in. I am picking 9th in a snake. My options:

Antonio Brown
Current ADP: mid 2nd
Keeper value: 5th

Rob Gronkowski
Current ADP: early 3rd
Keeper value: 4th

Keenan Allen
Current ADP: mid 3rd
Keeper value: 16th

I could also keep any of these guys at 1.09:
LeSean McCoy, Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson.
Prob Allen, especially if you can keep him for a late rounder going forward.

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Originally Posted by sixfour
I've never played an auction keeper, but how do players being off the board affect the values of whoever is left? While it's nice to have Alshon as a starting point for your receivers, and Lynch/Gerhart is a great 1-2 at those prices, how much of a point is there in having some extra cash available if there's three rounds worth of players off the board? It's not like there'll be great RB's to splash on (would imagine Forte/Lacy/Ball/Bell will be kept cheap, you've said Lynch/Charles are off, McCoy/ADP could easily be kept at face value), so what? Break the bank for a Megatron or similar vet WR? Using it on pricing out people for who you perceive to be the premier rookies could also work but we won't be using all of it there either.

Not being critical and have no huge opinion either way, just wanting to open discussion
It's always nice to have more $$$ than other people just for game theory purposes, price enforcement, & making sure you get who you want at values you like without being too hamstrung, but definitely have to balance with the desire to keep actual difference makers.

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Originally Posted by JMurder3
Got to make some tough Dynasty decisions. 8-team league. Keep any 14 with no penalty, then we have a 4 round snake draft (which I have the 1st pick in, & am almost definitely taking Watkins). 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex/1DST/1K, 6 points for passing TD, no PPR.

QB RWilson/RG3
HB JC/Spiller/DeMarco/Montee/Tate/DMC/DWilson
WR Andre Johnson/Torrey/DHop/Cordarrelle/Wallace/TY/Hakeem/JGordon
TE JGraham

Easier way to look at it is probably which 4 should I not keep. Some difficult decisions on the fringes imo. Going to try to trade a few guys for one really good guy, but tough in this league because hard not to be deep with these rosters in an 8 team league, & people value stars a ton.
Just realized I actually also have the 2nd pick if that changes anything.
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07-29-2014 , 03:43 PM
nyc,

bernard

jmurder - schefter's literally just tweeted that wilson injured his neck again, so that's one for sure
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