my withdrawal went thru fine

well it's sort of a silly pricing strategy. in nba for example, most bench players are never drafted even at their low salaries unless suddenly thrust into a starters role and then they become must plays at the reduced price. it would be better to price all bench players assuming a starter's level of playing time to protect the games against breaking roster changes.

Well changing the salary systems could have unexpected consequences. Whatever they are doing creates enough diversity in lineups that you can run 400k entry tournaments where there are no ties...

They could also move to a system based on projections for that week. But wildly shifting salaries from one day or one week to the next would probably confuse players or cause them to have to take more time making a lineup.

I would not say nobody use bench players in the nba.

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CP,

I think Legalized Sportsbetting in the US markets would suck 90 % of the oxygen out of a liquidity-based DFS format, sorry.

Yeah, although you know legal issues better than me I think you are slightly biased in thinking fantasy is a straight substitute for sports betting. I know people who obsess over their 25 dollar season long leagues but don't bet sports. The interactive nature of dfs is also enjoyable and the ability to sweat more plays per game is part of the attraction.

I don't really have any stake in the matter and I'm a break even player at this point so don't really have any stake in the matter.

But, yes gamblers who have bet sports a long time tend to be dismissive of fantasy. But the truth is you can probably risk as much money and the skill is just as great at this point.

And to add there were 20 fantasy sports magazines and an xm fantasy channel before draft kings even existed...so no dfs is not just a substitute for betting games...

Francesa destroys huh? Sounds like two people who have no idea how to form a compelling argument.

mike definitely knows how to yell a lot

He's really jumped the shark.I think he's taken this stance to tweak station management who he's been at odds with,they were all in taking DFS ad $$$.He's always preaching about protecting the players but he's up to his eyeballs in the horse racing industry,which is shady as hell at all levels.

Just another hypocrite. Loves horse racing, probably loses a lot of money on the hobby but others can't enjoy fantasy sports...wants to seem like he's above it all by not taking easy DFS advertising money...there is a reason his career was a total failure when he tried to be a national guy...granted has had a great career in nyc.

Fair enough. DFS is not just a substitute for betting games, as such. However sportsbetting has evolved quite a bit, with live ingame betting on all sorts of wagers, including individual player performances.

What DFS has done is forcefully demonstrate a public appetite for betting players or player groups performances in a variety of "interactive" match-ups. Consider a minor example that if a legal sportsbook were to offer some sort of performance-based price on 10 different NFL QBs this weekend, and let customers make their own matchups across games, viola.... there are 90 possible DFS-scored matchups that customers might like to fashion their "teams/wagers" around. That is just one simple example, a DFS-style price could be placed on virtually every player in every game the House was willing to rate.

And, the big selling point ....... the customer would not need to be "more right" than 97% of the other customers, to WIN, he just needs to be "right" against the House. (If customers also want a $1 million payout, instead of even money on their wager , the House can offer perhaps a 15 pick parlay format, something already seen in the sports-betting markets.)

I did not say 100% of the oxygen, just 90% would leave DFS

Can't we measure this sort of effect in a place like Nevada? Pre-ban? Was DFS very small compared to betting on outcomes among residents of the state?

Personally playing against the house has little appeal to me even at lower rake...ill never convince myself I could beat a house line. I also assume winning players would get banned or not be able to play huge volume (right now the best of the best winning dfs players can fire 100s of thousands of dollars per week.).

There is also an interactive nature to the game where you can see how you are doing versus other players.

But yes, would not mind having sports betting. I think they could create games that would appeal to fantasy players (like large field handicapping contests.

In summary the two things that work for dfs (at least for me) are competing for huge prizes against other players and the belief that it can be beaten even if it's only for 10 or less of players.

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I don't understand. Is this supposed to be your point, or are you supplying us with the deeply-flawed rationale of the average player/bettor?

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Link?

http://www.legalsportsreport.com/669...-court-battle/

hope theres some good overlay this weekend

Well I guess I won't be going to NY any time soon. Probably have to download TeamViewer if I do.

FD already left NY. DK now has 30 days to withdraw from NY. $3 mil makes sense on DK, they want to extract as much NY cash as they can before going bye bye. Withdraw the last $500 in your account or dump it in to the freeroll?

Judge's decision.

Hopefully this decision will be a wake-up call for these companies to stop the absurd "It's not gambling!" schtick and accept what they are. It's clear as day that if they keep this up, DFS is going to slowly disappear. They need to start working with legislators and state lawmakers to set up systems for their product to be regulated and transparent.

Of course, given the way they have been run, this suggestion makes way too much sense and they will burn the whole thing to the ground.

I am not really sure how the paramutual wagering works for horse racing, but if they did that in DFS would that up the prize pools? I know for instance at the Breeders Cup they have a 1 million dollar guarantee, but obviously if it takes in 8 million in the pool they are paying out more than 1 million. Would DFS be able to operate the same way?

PM wagering and DFS I think can never be the same? I know the horse sites similar to DFS are now being targeted like DerbyWars.