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1. Were not talking about the Koran.
Be more specific then.
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2. I don't think the Koran itself really says that, unless you interpret (misinterpret) it that way.
Yea and i am sure you have a great interpretation of that book along with the books of all religions you are trying to discuss. Who tries to discuss all religions at once anyways?
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3. Were not talking about the Koran, were talking about Christianity-neutral religions which don't have homicidal aggression towards Christianity.
You made this clear nowhere.
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4. You're still closing your eyes to my argument for no real reason.
Because you are all over the place.
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How do you know Atheists don't put effort into understanding the Bible? I bet there's Atheists out there that know the Bible better than you do. I know there is. And following God's word? Why would they do that as an Atheist? That makes no sense. Oh and way to ignore the reality of how Atheists have a questioning personality and that's why they're Atheists. But I guess that's the plan with you. Ignoring reality.
You don't know what reality is. I have a questioning personality just as much as any other. That didn't stop me from putting effort into finding God. If anything, it helped.
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It's not outrageous, It's how off and on Atheists are.
So you can provide proof then...
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"Searching for the truth" (truth in Christ), in your case means validating God. It's hard to question God and the validity of Christianity when you're trying to validate him by finding "the truth" (Christianity) which is different from "the truth" (dictionary). And please spare me the attempt at saying you meant the dictionary. We both know what "truth" means to a Christian and what you meant.
No, your wrong. Truth has 2 meanings. There is truth, which is exactly what i was referring to, and there is The Truth, which is not what i was referring to.
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When they mature into adulthood obviously. Why does it matter? They don't have an innate faith in any specific ideas was my point.
When they mature into adulthood...that is no real answer. There are many adults that have had faith in their parents from the moment they were born. There is no connection between growing hair on your chest and losing their innate faith. And your wrong, they specifically have innate faith in their parents.
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I'd take the proof to get into Heaven, even if it meant having a hard life. What's a lifetime compared to eternity? I have a hard life right now, the only difference is I would be going to Hell if your God existed whereas I'd be going to Heaven if I had proof. So yeah I really wouldn't mind the proof. Although I highly suspect that even if God exists, there is no Hell anyway. But I digress.
Satan had proof, is he in heaven? Oh and i am pretty sure the anti-Christ does not get into heaven...Read Mark 8:12 and Matthew 16:4. You are trying to find God, but you are putting no effort in whatsoever. What you are doing here is not what you are supposed to do. The proof is there, but for some reason you think you are going to find it arguing with Christians about 100 topics at once, while you put words in their posts. GL with that.
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But I'm not saying you know everything. Just everything about the meaning of life and our purpose and the nature of our eternal being. Which is a whole lot more than I claim to know. As an Atheist all I claim to know is that there isn't a God. That's it. As an Atheist, I know nothing else.
So you did not say this:
"Sure, but as a Christian you claim to know all of the hard questions as I said, the entire nature of existence, and the meaning of everything and why everything happens."
I never claimed to know all the hard questions about anything. You just said i claimed that, which is dishonest.
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Already have. I haven't been lying, you just haven't understood what I've been saying.
Well it doesn't get more clear then above.
And when you say Thomas had a free ticket into heaven, that is a lie also.
Honestly you are not someone anyone can have a big discussion with. Feel free to make points one at a time and i may respond. Until then you are using these big discussions to twist words around and i am not going to waste hours of my day keeping you on track. One topic at a time.
Last edited by Gunth0807; 06-18-2010 at 09:10 AM.