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12-26-2009 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
1. Why won’t God heal amputees?

2. Why are there so many starving people in our world?

3. Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the bible?

4. Why does the bible contain so much antiscientific nonsense?

5. Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the bible?

6. Why do bad things happen to good people?

7. Why didn’t any of Jesus’ miracles in the bible leave behind any evidence?

8. How do we explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?

9. Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood?

10. Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?
1. People don't pray hard enough
2. They lack spiritual principles
3. Everyone is a sinner
4. It's not a freakin' textbook, jeez
5. Jesus says 'love your neighbour', not 'love everyone'
6. See #3
7. That would make faith too easy
8. He has other things to do
9. He's a cannibal but also a masochist
10. Because Christian women are just as hard to live with as normal women
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12-26-2009 , 02:29 AM
I'm about 90% certain now that the link was a level and I got leveled trying to re-level.
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12-26-2009 , 02:34 AM
How old is the Earth according to the bible?
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12-26-2009 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Fist Pump
How old is the Earth according to the bible?
It can't be clearly stated, since what God considers a "day" is not clearly defined. It says in the bible, one day is as a 1000 years to God, basically implying that a day is nothing to God since he's eternal and not bound by time.
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12-26-2009 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Deorum
1. Why won’t God heal amputees?

- Human beings are three parts; the body is not as important as the spirit.

2. Why are there so many starving people in our world?

- They do not know the Father.

3. Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the bible?

- There are two gods of the bible: the Father and the god of this world. The god who demanded the death of these people was the god of this world.

4. Why does the bible contain so much antiscientific nonsense?

- It doesn't, you just don't know how to properly divide the bible.

5. Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the bible?

- Because it was appropriate at the time.

6. Why do bad things happen to good people?

- People do this to each other. This is a result of the Father's gift of freewill to mankind.

7. Why didn’t any of Jesus’ miracles in the bible leave behind any evidence?

- They did, you just have to be willing to see them.

8. How do we explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?

- You have to believe before you can understand, then you will know him.

9. Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood?

- It's probably in Romans chapter 10 somewhere and likely has something to do with the universe being surrounded by water.

10. Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?

- All religions are man made.


Aren't you an atheist? Do you believe these answers or is just what you've heard from christians?
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12-26-2009 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerjunky
Aren't you an atheist? Do you believe these answers or is just what you've heard from christians?
I don't know anything about the writer of those answers, but i would be pretty surprised if >25-50% of christians didn't agree with them. every religious person deep on the inside is a pletho, just intelligence tells some people to hide it better.
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12-26-2009 , 05:13 AM
Pretty much all of these questions are completely pointless and it basically comes down to "Why doesn't God respond to things in the way I expect Him to?" The poster says his questions can only be answered with "weird, forced, uncomfortable answers," but it is the questions which are forced contrived.

1. This question is based on the assumption that the only way a prayer can be answered for an amputee is if the missing limb is replaced. As a Christian, I naturally believe that the physical aspects of a person are not the complete person and this "other part," which you may call the soul, the spirit, or whatever term you like, is much more important than the physical aspect. The loss of a limb does not force something to happen in a person's "soul," as it is independent of the physical body. Just because a limb doesn't heal does not mean that the prayer is not being answered.

2. God does not want children to suffer. The children suffer because of our own selfishness in not being the generous, self-sacrificing people that God calls us to be. As I sit here, I am very comfortable with what I have, have much more than the basics I need to survive, and I still feel that this is okay. Sure, I may feel bad for these children at times, but I do not give everything that I should. This question is asking why God cannot solve the problems that we can but are too selfish to fix.

3. I don't have an answer to this at the moment. Many parts of the Old Testament have things that I'm still trying to figure out and understand. However, the answer to this question lies in one's interpretation of the text.

4. This is partially explained by lack of scientific knowledge on behalf of the original author. Also, the poster is taking figurative stories and trying to make scientific claims from them. More importantly, these claims are not even central to the teachings or messages.

5. See 3.

6. Firstly, this question is so vague that it is difficult to answer. Define "bad things." Define "good people." Plus, this question once again presupposes that I can determine what is good or bad for a person in regards to all aspects of their characters. Furthermore, it also completely neglects the whole idea of Satan.

7. Jesus left evidence of his miracles in the links on his Youtube page. I also heard that some guys wrote about them in some book, which was how people used to record things at one point.

8. We believe that the Trinity of God is all-powerful. We believe that there is a part of each person that is beyond the "physical stuff." How is it a nonsensical response to say that the presence of Jesus works through our spirit, which in turn works through our physical body, especially when you realize that working through our spiritual part is much more important than just stopping by in the flesh to say "Hi."

9. Jesus is a cannibal obviously.

10. Really? ... Seriously?
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12-26-2009 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by The Evil Polka Man
Pretty much all of these questions are completely pointless and it basically comes down to "Why doesn't God respond to things in the way I expect Him to?"
+1
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12-26-2009 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The Evil Polka Man
1. This question is based on the assumption that the only way a prayer can be answered for an amputee is if the missing limb is replaced. As a Christian, I naturally believe that the physical aspects of a person are not the complete person and this "other part," which you may call the soul, the spirit, or whatever term you like, is much more important than the physical aspect. The loss of a limb does not force something to happen in a person's "soul," as it is independent of the physical body. Just because a limb doesn't heal does not mean that the prayer is not being answered.
No, the question is based on the assumption that an all-powerful god CAN regrow a missing limb.
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12-26-2009 , 01:50 PM
so God can remove a tumor, but he can't replace a missing limb? or is it that God only choose to do "miracles" towards believers that can also occur naturally in non-believers as well?

or are all miraculous healings to theists, atheists, and satanists, alike, attributed to God, whether you pray for them or not?
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12-26-2009 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by smittymatt
1. God has no morally "good or bad" ideologies. He is omnipotent and thus has no emotion.

2. Refer to #1. Here is a question for you: How can the human mind possibly comprehend the intentions of an all powerful being?

3. Quotes mistranslated and taken out of context.

4. Ummm, many scientists today believe in silly things such as "parallel universes" and "string theory." Honestly, a God sounds more "logical" than these outlandish propositions.

5. God may or may not be a proponent of slavery. You have to remember the bible was written with the bias of man.

6. Definition of good please?

7. To test your faith.

8. Maybe he was a person, maybe he was divine. Or maybe we are just too dumb to perceive him.

9. It's called symbolism.

10. Because we are all people?
[ ] questions answered
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12-26-2009 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddi
No, the question is based on the assumption that an all-powerful god CAN regrow a missing limb.
And this all-powerful God also realizes that there are much better ways to improve this person's well-being than just having a limb regrown.

You are saying that the only way the prayers can be answered is if the limb returns. I am saying that this is a faulty assumption.
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12-26-2009 , 03:35 PM
He's asking why prayers asking for the regrowth of limbs are never answered with a regrown limb.
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12-26-2009 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Deorum
He's asking why prayers asking for the regrowth of limbs are never answered with a regrown limb.
You are still expecting one outcome for the prayer to be answered. That outcome doesn't happen, so you conclude that God doesn't answer prayers. This is faulty because you're not acknowledging that prayers can be (and are often) answered in other ways.

This isn't that hard to understand...
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12-26-2009 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The Evil Polka Man
You are still expecting one outcome for the prayer to be answered. That outcome doesn't happen, so you conclude that God doesn't answer prayers. This is faulty because you're not acknowledging that prayers can be (and are often) answered in other ways.

This isn't that hard to understand...
You're still missing the point. The question is WHY does an all-powerful god CHOOSE to NOT grow the limb and instead does smth else? Is regrowing the limb somehow worse than the other options?
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12-26-2009 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by The Evil Polka Man
You are still expecting one outcome for the prayer to be answered. That outcome doesn't happen, so you conclude that God doesn't answer prayers. This is faulty because you're not acknowledging that prayers can be (and are often) answered in other ways.
First of all, I'm not expecting anything. I'm clarifying his question. Second of all, nobody is assuming the prayer isn't answered. He is asking why the request isn't granted when people claim that other similar requests are (those similar requests also sometimes occurring naturally).

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This isn't that hard to understand...
I agree, I don't know why you insist upon complicating it more than necessary (okay, I do know why).
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12-26-2009 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
1. Why won’t God heal amputees? He does, every single one of them get healed.

2. Why are there so many starving people in our world? because people are selfish

3. Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the bible? Who said that they are inoccent?, you?

4. Why does the bible contain so much antiscientific nonsense? Why does evolution claim that monkeys give birth to humans?

5. Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the bible? Do you understand what it means to be a proponent?

6. Why do bad things happen to good people? spiritual warfare FTW

7. Why didn’t any of Jesus’ miracles in the bible leave behind any evidence?What? It left a ton of evidence.

8. How do we explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you? because you smell funny.

9. Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood?why did evolution tell hitler to kill the jews?

10. Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians? I believe their rate is higher, and it's the churches fault


He goes into some detail on each question
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12-26-2009 , 05:18 PM
Every time I see a post by Jib.... I hear JIB JAB in my head.
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12-26-2009 , 05:53 PM
Scientists admit they could be wrong, why do christians feel they are special and can't be wrong under any circumstances?
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12-26-2009 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VPIP100
Scientists admit they could be wrong, why do christians feel they are special and can't be wrong under any circumstances?
Wow....pretty bold. Are we saying ALL Christians do this
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12-26-2009 , 05:58 PM
Sorry, I might hurt some feelings. Ill rephrase my question:

People that believe in some deity with no proof whatsoever and at the same time claim they can't be wrong. Why do those feel they can't be wrong?
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12-26-2009 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by VPIP100
Sorry, I might hurt some feelings. Ill rephrase my question:

People that believe in some deity with no proof whatsoever and at the same time claim they can't be wrong. Why do those feel they can't be wrong?
ANYONE who thinks they can't be wrong...just proved otherwise.
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12-26-2009 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
3. Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the bible? Who said that they are inoccent?, you?
WTF is wrong with the theists (Stu said smth as idiotic the other day)? Seriously. W T F.
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12-26-2009 , 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by Jibninjas View Post
3. Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the bible? Who said that they are inoccent?, you?


How about maybe because they deserved to die instead?
bunch of heathens




*........waiting......waiting.......*
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12-26-2009 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
ANYONE who thinks they can't be wrong...just proved otherwise.
BINK

edit: I agree

Last edited by smittymatt; 12-26-2009 at 07:41 PM. Reason: edited for clarity
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