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05-16-2016 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TS2
It is 75 hours for pearl and 150 for gold official
This is correct.

Also I asked at the Aria today and they said when they check your total number of hours there, they only have the total number of hours in that room. They look at your hours from March 2015 until March 2016 (I have no idea why they use those dates). If you need more than one room to reach 75 or 150 hours, they would need a little time to look into it and get you a Pearl/Gold card. But they would still do it if you ask.
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05-16-2016 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
No, hotel guests paying for parking is not standard at all. It happens, but to call it fairly standard is kind of stretching the truth. Plus the space that is available for parking on the Strip is not nearly as confined as the space some of those rare downtown hotels who do charge for parking have to deal with. So it is comparing apples and oranges. But keep apologizing for MGM, you are their target customer.
Not standard? Rare downtown hotels?

LOL. You must not travel much if you think it is rare for a downtown hotel in a major metropolitan city to charge its guests for parking. As I said, I've been traveling around the country on business (and pleasure) for 30+ years and I can guarantee you that it is pretty damn standard.

You want rare? The closest shopping mall to me has been charging for parking for decades. Now that's a rare event. BTW, it's the most successful shopping mall in the entire country (ranked by sales/sq. ft.), so it's not as if charging for parking has hurt it any.

In closing, I'm not apologizing for MGM, I'm laughing at yours and others ridiculous statements about hotel parking policies in general.
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05-16-2016 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
Not standard? Rare downtown hotels?

LOL. You must not travel much if you think it is rare for a downtown hotel in a major metropolitan city to charge its guests for parking. As I said, I've been traveling around the country on business (and pleasure) for 30+ years and I can guarantee you that it is pretty damn standard.

You want rare? The closest shopping mall to me has been charging for parking for decades. Now that's a rare event. BTW, it's the most successful shopping mall in the entire country (ranked by sales/sq. ft.), so it's not as if charging for parking has hurt it any.

In closing, I'm not apologizing for MGM, I'm laughing at yours and others ridiculous statements about hotel parking policies in general.
whoa, settle down there Francis. You're the one comparing the acres upon acres of room each property has on the strip to the one square block of parking a hotel may have in Manhattan, not me. Most of us here posses the intelligence level to differentiate between the two and not use it to apologize for MGM. We are all proud of you and your travels and the fact that you shop at one of the most prestigious malls in the world. But the majority of the hotels/shopping establishments that charge for parking do validate if you are a customer. I'm sorry if you've never taken advantage of that. MGM won't validate unless you are a degenerate enough gambler to earn a high level players card (although 75 hours is not much for a Poker player. The non poker players have to gamble quite a bit to get to Pearl).
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05-16-2016 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Actually all the anger and complaining has resulted in some significant changes. MGM backed down quite a bit by giving Pearl members free parking, giving poker players much easier ways to get free parking, and giving locals 6 free months. That's a significant change from their original position that only players with high status cards MIGHT get free parking.

If people just "moved on" or "quickly got over it" several months ago when the news came out, then what would stop them from charging $20, $30 or more?
Do you think that MGM has simply decided to make less money in light of customer complaints?

I don't.

Complaints have deferred some costs. Shifted the burden, perhaps. But you're giving way too much credit to the fact that they're giving X level free parking and Y customers a few free months. Timed offers expire and offers tied to a card tier are very easily manipulated by adjusting what it takes to get that tier. Shifting the burden from locals to tourists just means less of the tourist money going elsewhere, instead of dropping $500 on accomodations, and $300 on food, they drop $510 on accomodations and $290 on food and the food industry takes the hit.

If you want a long term viable solution, it has to include not just complaints about how this affects you, but a viable counterproposal that's going to satisfy the corporate raiders and activist investors circling MGM. Would you accept layoffs (good for the corporation, bad for the community)? Putting properties in a REIT (don't know much about pros and cons of this but CET did it)? More 6:5 blackjack? 39 square roulette? Raising room charges? Petitioning the city of Las Vegas to cut MGM tax breaks?

Simply expecting MGM to make less money is unrealistic. And maybe this thread isn't the place to discuss it. But before you start sucking each others' dicks over how great it is that parking is less than expected, consider what that really means. MGM has left a way to increase its future parking revenues with very little scrutiny, for example, raise the bar required for Pearl and raise the points earned from poker by a percentage less than the amount raised (e.g., raise poker points by 5% and the requirement by 10%, basically devaluing poker points). That's an ominous sign. They're not done.

The long term solution is one where MGM does well enough to be a stable company, tourists still feel like Vegas is something special, and there's enough extra money splashed around that secondary industries like poker are viable too.

To be clear, I'm not convinced MGM is doing its parts in this either. Like gobbo said, MGM seems to be trying to make Vegas a more inconvenient version of the local casinos all over the country. That's probably a short term neutral, long term negative move.
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05-16-2016 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Care to elaborate? That seems to have been the official statement. I know I was given a Gold card and I only play poker.
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Originally Posted by TS2
It is 75 hours for pearl and 150 for gold official
Sorry I meant that you have to have already gotten the hours by now like Steve clarifies below. ****ing bull**** they pick those arbitrary dates. I moved to Vegas ~month ago and have been putting in ~10 hours every single day at MGM properties. But since I missed the arbitrary cut off I'm going to get ****ed in the ass. I will have to switch to CET properties if they do this to me.
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
This is correct.

Also I asked at the Aria today and they said when they check your total number of hours there, they only have the total number of hours in that room. They look at your hours from March 2015 until March 2016 (I have no idea why they use those dates). If you need more than one room to reach 75 or 150 hours, they would need a little time to look into it and get you a Pearl/Gold card. But they would still do it if you ask.
Thanks for clarifying. You always come with good info in this sub.
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05-16-2016 , 01:12 PM
Before you give up on them, I would ask them to check your hours and see what they can do for you a few days before parking charge comes in. Very likely they will be able to manually upgrade you. The reason they picked March for the initial check is probably just because that's when they decided on the policy.
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05-16-2016 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Before you give up on them, I would ask them to check your hours and see what they can do for you a few days before parking charge comes in. Very likely they will be able to manually upgrade you. The reason they picked March for the initial check is probably just because that's when they decided on the policy.
Good idea. I have put in more hours at Aria than probably anybody else the past 2-3 weeks and will continue to do so. Maybe if they see that they can make an exception for me. Thanks. Worth a shot.
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05-16-2016 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
OK help me out here. I'm certain I played more than 75 hours at Aria last June and July, so I should already qualify for Pearl Mlife card then? I have a regular Mlife card that I used last year, but every time I try to set up Mlife online it gives me an error (I've tried to setup the account at least half a dozen times ...always "error, try again later").
I don't know why it's doing that but you don't even need to set up anything online to get Pearl (I can understand why you would want to check your status though). Just ask someone in the poker room to check and they can tell you how many hours you played and get you a Pearl card.
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05-16-2016 , 04:35 PM
I don't live in Vegas, is there a phone number as to who to call to get me to pearl status? I have all my hours spread among different rooms. But I know I have way above 75 hours to qualify. I might have 150.

Or would I have to call every poker room and get the total hours?
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05-16-2016 , 04:41 PM
mlife.com is a notoriously ****ty site, so having problems checking online makes sense to me. I'm sure the enhanced parking experience will work just as well as their crap-ass website.
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05-16-2016 , 04:46 PM
I think it's funny how they say the parking will be fancy, keep track of everything, but still if you lose your ticket you will have to pay for 3 days. Shouldn't they know exactly how long you were there?
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05-16-2016 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
whoa, settle down there Francis. You're the one comparing the acres upon acres of room each property has on the strip to the one square block of parking a hotel may have in Manhattan, not me. Most of us here posses the intelligence level to differentiate between the two and not use it to apologize for MGM.
Speaking of intelligence (or lack thereof), I'm going to try this just one more time because it's become patently obvious that you are having difficulty processing even the simplest of information.

This isn't about Manhattan as opposed to Vegas, this is about hotels in the central business/entertainment district of every single major metropolitan city in the entire United States.

I'm sorry if this is too difficult for you to understand.
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05-16-2016 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
Speaking of intelligence (or lack thereof), I'm going to try this just one more time because it's become patently obvious that you are having difficulty processing even the simplest of information.

This isn't about Manhattan as opposed to Vegas, this is about hotels in the central business/entertainment district of every single major metropolitan city in the entire United States.

I'm sorry if this is too difficult for you to understand.
You shouldn't be comparing those places to Vegas (strip) since Vegas is a vacation destination, business districts are business districts and businesses generally pick up the cost of parking at those hotels (or the fee is waived for guests). Hotels there need to charge for parking if only to prevent people who work in the area from parking there for free, instead of paying for parking elsewhere (what most reading this thread will do on the strip until other properties charge for parking). Downtown Vegas is a business district where they've charged for parking all along, but reimbursed or waived it for legitimate gamblers.
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05-16-2016 , 08:42 PM
I asked the floor at mgm grand about this yesterday, and was told that poker time doesn't get you any tier points or free parking. She said some poker players were already given free parking for time played in the last year, but that wouldn't be happening again for another year. So there doesn't seem to be a way to get it by playing poker in the near future, unless you already did get it.

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05-16-2016 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Do you think that MGM has simply decided to make less money in light of customer complaints?

I don't.
I'm not convinced that requiring players to reach Platinum would have made them more money.
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05-16-2016 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 8ballJunkie
I asked the floor at mgm grand about this yesterday, and was told that poker time doesn't get you any tier points or free parking. She said some poker players were already given free parking for time played in the last year, but that wouldn't be happening again for another year. So there doesn't seem to be a way to get it by playing poker in the near future, unless you already did get it.

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The Floor was wrong. Corrrect u dont get tier for poker play. but 75 hours does get u to pearl and 150 gets u to gold that is fact and u can take that to the bank. (at least that is the current policy)
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05-16-2016 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TS2
The Floor was wrong. Corrrect u dont get tier for poker play. but 75 hours does get u to pearl and 150 gets u to gold that is fact and u can take that to the bank. (at least that is the current policy)
Dude have you been reading the thread at all. You had to have got them between March 2015 and March 2016. If not, it's already too late and you're **** out of luck. Ive gotten 150 hours in the past 2-3 weeks alone and they told me I have to wait until next year.
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05-16-2016 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
Not standard? Rare downtown hotels?

LOL. You must not travel much if you think it is rare for a downtown hotel in a major metropolitan city to charge its guests for parking. As I said, I've been traveling around the country on business (and pleasure) for 30+ years and I can guarantee you that it is pretty damn standard.

You want rare? The closest shopping mall to me has been charging for parking for decades. Now that's a rare event. BTW, it's the most successful shopping mall in the entire country (ranked by sales/sq. ft.), so it's not as if charging for parking has hurt it any.

In closing, I'm not apologizing for MGM, I'm laughing at yours and others ridiculous statements about hotel parking policies in general.
Your comparisons to other big cities are what's laughable.these other cities don't have ample parking and these hotels aren't also casinos.
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05-17-2016 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Quaddeuce
Dude have you been reading the thread at all. You had to have got them between March 2015 and March 2016. If not, it's already too late and you're **** out of luck. Ive gotten 150 hours in the past 2-3 weeks alone and they told me I have to wait until next year.
I work for a strip MGM property and we are giving out pearl cards to those that make 75 and gold to those that make 150
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05-17-2016 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TS2
I work for a strip MGM property and we are giving out pearl cards to those that make 75 and gold to those that make 150
Really? Dude I havent put in any hours at MGM before this year but ive put in more hours than anyone in Vegas at aria the past month and the floor there told me I will have to wait until next year. Can I PM you? Maybe you can help me out???
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05-17-2016 , 01:16 AM
last time i gave away what property i worked at I got banned from 2+2 so im not doing that again. but u might want to try when a different floor/attendant is working.
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05-17-2016 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TS2
last time i gave away what property i worked at I got banned from 2+2 so im not doing that again. but u might want to try when a different floor/attendant is working.
OK no problemo. Thx bro
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05-17-2016 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Your comparisons to other big cities are what's laughable.these other cities don't have ample parking and these hotels aren't also casinos.
Not to mention that hotels in those other cities don't already charge $30 nightly resort fees.
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05-18-2016 , 03:29 AM
Moving to Vegas in October, assuming if I play bellagio everyday I will have to pay for parking at first and after I logged 75 hours I can upgrade to pearl and from
Then on it will be free?
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05-19-2016 , 01:44 AM
I asked the floor for a gold card today and they said I couldn't get one because it still shows sapphire in the system. So I asked them to manually upgrade me because I have at least 150 hrs played this year, she said the system would upgrade me automatically when I reach the amount of play required. Bull****, I'm tracking my sessions with poker income and I have 164hrs played this year. Wtf
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