CET and others could have plenty of spaces in their parking garages and they will still be happy to start charging for obvious reasons. And they will be charging for many of the same reasons that MGM is charging. MGM didn't start charging because of concerns about garages being too full.

You're looking for the closest, not cheapest, because AFAIK nobody else charges yet.

And that's probably Planet Ho or Caesars Palace.

But the real question is whether you play big enough that it costs you more to park at Bellagio than it costs you in time to walk over from another property.

That is some seriously convoluted logic.

When CET or some other non-MGM company gets even the slightest whiff of customers parking in their lots but playing at MGM, they'll use that to add parking charges and feel justified in doing so. They will most likely do it anyway, but why reward MGM for this particularly while punishing another company? Adding insult to injury.

just checked my mlife account and I'm pearl. Havent been to Vegas since last wsop- i doubt i played 75 hours at mgm properties then although i did play a lot at bellagio and aria early in 2015.

You are correct, I meant to type closest.

You also need to consider the value of exercising to you. For example, let's assume it takes me 15 minutes extra to walk from a neighboring property, I can expect to win $15 playing poker for an extra 15 minutes, parking costs $10 and the value of 15 minutes of exercise to me is $10.

If I decide to park at Bellagio, I net $5 ($15 EV from game less $10 parking).
If I decide to park across the street, I net $10 worth of exercise.

You are correct that there is some point where you win enough in the game and exercise is worth little in comparison in which case it would make more sense to pay for parking. But I don't think that is the case in my situation, as those numbers are probably fairly accurate for me.

I don't think we know how they will respond. Maybe they will respond by doing nothing, figuring that any pass-through traffic that happens to stop and buy something or gamble is a bonus that they wouldn't have otherwise had.

Maybe they will redesign their casino to make sure that anyone walking from the parking garage to the Strip has to pass over the gaming floor.

Or maybe you are right and they will decide to charge for parking also.

Ultimately, it's pretty hard to project how both customers and other casinos will respond to these changes. I just think that other casinos charging because they don't want people freerolling their parking is less likely than one of the other alternatives. But ultimately, I expect they will wait and see how it effects the profitability of MGM. Someone like me is costing the MGM money because I am spending less time paying rake or time at their poker table. Someone who pays for parking is making the MGM money because they are paying for parking. If everyone acts like I do, the paid parking idea will probably be a bust. If everyone happily pays the parking fee and business is otherwise unaffected, the paid parking idea will probably expand everywhere else.

People need to stop assuming they'll be able to easily get self parking in this thread. Can very easily see those lots filling up especially on the weekends if enough people opt to skip the valet to save a few bucks.

I think this is a pretty big wild card to be honest in terms of pissing people off even more. "Well you can self park for less... Oh wait, the lot is full, so no you can't."

These lots are almost never full save for big fights,nye etc.a few less people valet parking won't make a difference.plus some people just wont park in tjese lots at all anymore .

Yeah, right now of course they're empty. There will obviously be some transfer form the valet lots to self park. Maybe it's just a small percentage. Who knows. We'll find out soon!

they should create a smart phone app that will let you log in to your M Life account and get a daily chance (e.g. a slot machine, blackjack hand, pick a card etc) to get free parking voucher

You may still be able to get pearl for free parking if you get the 75 hours. At Aria right now and explained to the guy I just moved here 1 month ago and have over 75 hours but it's all been in past month. I.e. past the cut off date. But the guy said he will send an email for me and I should get it. I also gave him a $5 tip tho

Fees seem outrageous. Unless all other casinos follow suit, MGM will lose a lot of customers.

If I were a casino, I'd gladly pay $8 to have a captive customer walk through my doors.

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I think it would be hilarious if players got up every 50 minutes to move their car from Bellagio to Aria and vice versa.

You DO know it is all MGM properties and not just the MGM Grand..right?

Obviously, CET properties will do similar..

It will be like resort fees. One will start - all will follow.

For months I've been wrestling with the idea of the parking fees and how to proceed forward with my upcoming summer stays and my future visits to LV.

At first in December 2015 I was like "FU MGM resorts I'm done with you". As the information for the MGM Parking rules came out it turns out Gold status (which I am) gets free valet and self-parking everywhere; it looks like it would make most sense to stay with Mlife for my gaming since I'm already halfway to reaching gold again for the next cycle.

So the dilemma and question for me becomes: since I practically always stay on the strip when in town and I prefer MGM resorts over several other offerings (CET, Tropicana, T.I.) in my budget range, does it behove me to start building tier status with another casino property/resort group when it's likely they will all soon follow suit to MGM's changes? If I was currently in a financial situation where I could bump up to Cosmo or Wynn consistently (i.e. every trip) then perhaps I would move to one of those higher end independent resorts. For now however, it seems that it makes most sense to continue with my investment in Mlife and just stay the course as I'm likely to keep my status that gives me comped parking and free suite upgrades.

I hate parking at the cosmo, worst parking structure ever... the bell had the best. Maybe I will park at the mall for north end of the strip.

With the new MGM property parking fees, it makes even less sense to rent a car.

Lots of transportation options: shuttles (some are free, like Rio, Sam's Town, etc.) Monorail, The Deuce, Uber, etc. etc. etc..

Depending on the games you play, it may be a lot easier to earn rewards at one place than another.

Like if you play 1/2 NL and hop around from casino to casino, you have a lot more MGM rooms and would have to put in a ton of hours at the Wynn alone to keep up. But if you play like 5/10 where your choices are Bellagio or Wynn, Wynn becomes more attractive.

It also depends on the rewards for various tiers. Like if you get a low level tier across many properties, you may get a small reward buy at mant properties, but if you can pool together all your play into one location and get an even higher tier status with a better reward that you really value, it may be better.

The thing is that the companies will tinker with the tier statuses a lot and more often and with very little public scrutiny, so it's hard to predict the future.

I find it unclear to what extent M-life Pearl+ members will have "in and out" privileges.

The formulation on MGM's very pedagogical 67 point 'Parking 101' FAQ webpage is open for interpretation:

Notice that "a certain day period" may not (necessarily) mean "one day/24 hours", but more likely "a period within one day" - which could be as little as 20 minutes, or as much as 12 hours or more. Which is in line with the stated purpose of preventing M-life card sharing.

Even if the most restrictive (24 hour) interpretation applies, I'm curious how this works out for linked accounts, which a lot of married couples have. With linked accounts two people are both issued higher tier memberships/cards, even if only one has actually earned it. Going from one "in/out" per day () to two, would make a big difference.

Can anyone confirm more specific interpretations of this issue?

How is somebody parking at your casino and walking through it to go to an MGM casino a "captive" customer?

Exactly this.

All the bitching and moaning, plans to park at another property and walk over, and vows to never set foot in an MGM property again are all going to fade away over time. The reality is that MGM will start making money on parking, and the other properties will all follow suit. It will quickly become the norm to pay for parking, and all of the drama now will be reduced to nothing more than an occasional light grumble every now and then over time. It will be exactly like resort fees.

It's a sign of the times for sure. They continue to find streams of revenue that aggravate the consumer and consumers start to stop coming to Vegas. I hate to say it but I might become one of them if they all keep this up. I can certainly see myself never renting a car there again.

Your reading comprehension is lacking. I was saying mgm is risking losing a captive customer over $8.

By not charging the $8 another casino may get a captive customer.