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12-06-2023 , 11:28 PM
Joe Cada used to play anyone heads-up with a $500 minimum at his uncle's charity room outside of Detroit.

With TT dying, T should do the same.
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12-06-2023 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by angle_shooter
Or 22k in 9 years, if I'm reading Luvdavlogs stats correctly
honestly though that's safely in the 10% of 1-2 players over the past 9 years, arguably top 5% or even 1% given how large the pool is the most don't put in the volume, stay at 1-2, or even win to begin with

so you can see where trooper gets this mentality, recognizing he's better than most and thus assuming he doesn't need to improve



it's really hard to understand how in something with so much rake and luck involved, you need to be an absolute crusher and not just be better than most but better than nearly everyone in order to thrive

ie in dfs a lot of my play is tracked and compared to the general field - yahoo does this for matchmaking in h2hs to make them fairer but it's also a reasonable proxy to analyze where you stand

so i'm all to familiar with knowing that when i'm in the top1% over a recent stretch then i've been profitable but then if i have lost money over the last few weeks i'll see i was not dramatically worse, i was still outperforming the field, but i was top 2% and the there's so little room at the top for profits that's how tough it can be
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12-07-2023 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Yea this was discussed during wsop time. I actually think he's right for leaving. He's not playing high stakes,not playing tournaments. It's not like he can play ten tables at once. More games doesn't mean better games on average it just means longer wait times,stressed out floors and dealers,Vegas heat etc.
It's also not conducive to his constant game and seat hopping.

If I had 2 casinos near me- one with ten tables short wait times and I could hop around easily and one with 50 tables with 3 hours wait lists that were hard to move around in etc those games would have to be significantly better for me to go there. And I just don't believe Vegas nl games even during the wsop are better than the games in these Podunk towns he plays in.

Isn’t he Diamond with Caesar’s though? He can jump to the top of the list at all their properties. Including in Paris at the series.

It’s arguably the best Diamond perk there is.
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12-07-2023 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
honestly though that's safely in the 10% of 1-2 players over the past 9 years, arguably top 5% or even 1% given how large the pool is the most don't put in the volume, stay at 1-2, or even win to begin with so you can see where trooper gets this mentality, recognizing he's better than most and thus assuming he doesn't need to improve
Depends what you are talking about. 22k over the 9 years would equate to just barely over 1BB per hour if you assume he's playing roughly 1000 hrs per year. That might put him in the top 10% but I wouldn't say it would be anywhere near the top 1%

Also 2 factors to consider:

1. These are purely self reported results via his YouTube channel. I'm not accusing him of misreporting but I don't believe he has ever claimed or promised to report all his results. It would make sense that if he ever fails to report any cash game results it's more likely to be the big losses rather than big wins. That is only human nature. This factor alone could account for a large % of his profit

2. If you include all his losses at the WSOP over the years it more than cancels out any cash game profits he may have made. Im including staked tournament buy-ins into that as well.
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12-07-2023 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
honestly though that's safely in the 10% of 1-2 players over the past 9 years, arguably top 5% or even 1% given how large the pool is the most don't put in the volume, stay at 1-2, or even win to begin with

so you can see where trooper gets this mentality, recognizing he's better than most and thus assuming he doesn't need to improve



it's really hard to understand how in something with so much rake and luck involved, you need to be an absolute crusher and not just be better than most but better than nearly everyone in order to thrive

ie in dfs a lot of my play is tracked and compared to the general field - yahoo does this for matchmaking in h2hs to make them fairer but it's also a reasonable proxy to analyze where you stand

so i'm all to familiar with knowing that when i'm in the top1% over a recent stretch then i've been profitable but then if i have lost money over the last few weeks i'll see i was not dramatically worse, i was still outperforming the field, but i was top 2% and the there's so little room at the top for profits that's how tough it can be

So making $2,500 per year playing full time puts you in the elite category for 1-2 players? It should be against the law to even do this. Homeless sidewalk beggars destroy this in annual income.

Making $2,500 a year doing anything is embarrassing and a complete waste of time.
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12-07-2023 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by angle_shooter
Knowing ElD it's probably more rooted in where he can get long term accommodation for ~$40 per night that's also within reasonable proximity to the casinos.



I don't care what he says but it has to be a major drag switching properties and going back and forth between Airbnbs and the strip constantly. He probably longs to have a more stable and convenient living arrangement for at least a few stretches throughout the year.
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I don't care what he says but it has to be a major drag switching properties and going back and forth between Airbnbs and the strip constantly. He probably longs to have a more stable and convenient living arrangement for at least a few stretches throughout the year.
as someone who has for the better part of the last two years been casino hopping, it is tiring and exhausting, and i plan it much better than diesel . i try to do 11-3-11 but a lot of times it has to be 4-3-4-3-4 when i cant get the algos to work or its a big event week .


i got my cost down to around 200 a month in rooms and get like 900 a month in food credits, but it's really not worth it .

its just that we have been transient some and my roll is low so it feels like a trap.

even though i tip the lobby its still a ****ing haggle.
for a couple months its ok, def not long term obv
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12-07-2023 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
Isn’t he Diamond with Caesar’s though? He can jump to the top of the list at all their properties. Including in Paris at the series.

It’s arguably the best Diamond perk there is.
during June, half the players are diamond , its actually the 7stars who get to use that perk more during high traffic times
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12-07-2023 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Watch Maria Ho take down the WSOP $1500 live.
Ho no mo.
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12-07-2023 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
I'm still trying to figure out if Rice leaving Vegas everytime there is a big series here is a +ev for him.

His logic obviously is that every June cash games are much softer all around the country cause us grinders are here.

Now that includes early December, I know the volatility goes up when tourney players are playing cash games , but as a whole , most tourney players are bad cash game players , so does he think his style will suffer and doesnt wanna deal with the more aggro games, i mean that must be it.
No, for the WSOP it's because the wait lists are horrendously long.
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12-07-2023 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
No, for the WSOP it's because the wait lists are horrendously long.
He wont have to worry about long wait list this upcoming wsop.
Diesel claims he'll be dealing at the WSOP 2024.
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12-07-2023 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
Isn’t he Diamond with Caesar’s though? He can jump to the top of the list at all their properties. Including in Paris at the series.

It’s arguably the best Diamond perk there is.
At all of their 2 properties? Maybe it works at the WSOP cash game too, I don't know.

Regardless, during WSOP you'd often see 4 or 5 Diamond names, and then 2 or 3 Seven Star names, who get priority over Diamond. So still a long wait.
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12-07-2023 , 03:40 AM
Any updates on the Sprkli Empire? It would be too bad if they are not back in business in time for Christmas orders? You have to imagine that December would be the peak month for their candy sales.
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12-07-2023 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DividedWeFall
So making $2,500 per year playing full time puts you in the elite category for 1-2 players? It should be against the law to even do this. Homeless sidewalk beggars destroy this in annual income.

Making $2,500 a year doing anything is embarrassing and a complete waste of time.
You should try reading it again and then realize nowhere did I praise him.

You think it’s a hot take that 90% or more of the 1-2 pool are not up over 20k the last nine years?
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12-07-2023 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
You should try reading it again and then realize nowhere did I praise him.

You think it’s a hot take that 90% or more of the 1-2 pool are not up over 20k the last nine years?
Win rate (for live players) expressed as BB/hr is a much better way of comparing success levels. For one thing I don't know how many successful 1/2 players would have refused to move up in stakes for 9 years and are still playing 1/2... but my guess would be it's a very very small number.
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12-07-2023 , 05:59 AM
Trooper moves up stakes every so often then gets scared of the swings or whatever because fear is for others, then drops back to 1-2, he’s up money lifetime at 2-5, mostly from operation uptick but he really should play 2-5, much less rake in terms of bbs you pay, max rake for 1-2 let’s say it’s 5 + 1 bbj, then 1$ tip if you win we won’t even count that, just the bad beat + rake, thats 3bbs, then at 2-5 that’s just 1.2bbs . I wonder if it’s just because his roll is too small and he gives it a shot to sun run or something, feels the pain of losing then drops back down, he’s never gonna run it up in poker, that’s obvious at this point, so maybe if sparkli pans out he will move up to 2-5 if he has enough of a BR in his back pocket
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12-07-2023 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
You should try reading it again and then realize nowhere did I praise him.

You think it’s a hot take that 90% or more of the 1-2 pool are not up over 20k the last nine years?
If you're talking casuals who play a couple hundred hours a year it's probably true.

If you're talking about people actually grinding 1/2 nl the way he was id say it's an absurd take that on average only 10 percent make 2500 a year.

The other thing is nobody with half a brain trying to make a living at poker stays in 1/2 nl.

Plenty of guys over the last 9 years are up more than that in 1/2 nl. But a ton of them don't play NL anymore bc they aren't droolers like Trooper. If someone made 30k in 1/2 NL in 2015 and haven't played it since they're way more successful than Trooper at 1/2 nl.

Being better at only 90 percent of the field in a game of casual players ,complete amateurs,in many cases people not even trying to win when you're trying to make a living at it is an absolute embarrassment.

And I still think it you went to a poker room at any time randomly more than 10 percent of the players playing 1/2 nl at that moment are up 2500 or more in 2023.

Last edited by borg23; 12-07-2023 at 09:14 AM.
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12-07-2023 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
If you're talking casuals who play a couple hundred hours a year it's probably true.

If you're talking about people actually grinding 1/2 nl the way he was id say it's an absurd take that on average only 10 percent make 2500 a year.

Totally agree. Also there is many players that plays 1/3 or 2/5 as a sidehustle or partime gig,and log like 500-600 hours pr year.
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12-07-2023 , 09:19 AM
Besides that its worth noticing the Hamster is back doing pokervlogs for a little while now, and i havent seen any hyping of Sparkly for along time now. They seem to have hit a serious roadblock.
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12-07-2023 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
during June, half the players are diamond , its actually the 7stars who get to use that perk more during high traffic times

I’ve never been further down the list than 4th at any location during the last 2 series.

MGM a properties are where the lists get super deep.
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12-07-2023 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by angle_shooter
Any updates on the Sprkli Empire? It would be too bad if they are not back in business in time for Christmas orders? You have to imagine that December would be the peak month for their candy sales.
Business license still in pending status.

https://blepay.clarkcountynv.gov/ble...y/blinname.asp
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12-07-2023 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
You should try reading it again and then realize nowhere did I praise him.

You think it’s a hot take that 90% or more of the 1-2 pool are not up over 20k the last nine years?

Easy Skippy! I didn’t criticize or comment about you. Only the absurdity of making $2,500 as an annual income from poker.
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12-07-2023 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AllGameDegen
Business license still in pending status.

https://blepay.clarkcountynv.gov/ble...y/blinname.asp
Very strange...business licences are cheap and given out like candy.
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12-07-2023 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DizzyG
Very strange...business licences are cheap and given out like candy.
My theory is that they didn't report the actual business address. Rather, they reported their PO Box at the UPS Store. I think they require an actual physical address. We will see....
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12-07-2023 , 03:02 PM
In making a decision on which videos to revisit, it looks like Rice decided to choose those videos where he was trolled the hardest.
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12-07-2023 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AllGameDegen
In making a decision on which videos to revisit, it looks like Rice decided to choose those videos where he was trolled the hardest.
For a guy as frugal as he is, it's surprising he would fly into a city only to fly right back later on in the day with the sole purpose of just watching a baseball game (and getting some BBQ). Spending 3 or 4 hundred in one day on a non-poker related event is HUGE to his finances.
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