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06-02-2010 , 10:58 PM
Shipping KTs 25bb deep is way too wide. Really shouldn't be open shoving above 20bb and I usually raise/call or raise/fold all the way down to 12-15bb sometimes depends on hand like obviously it's better to just ship 44 in 15bb deep than to raise/call it whereas with AA raise/call will be better. And since no one has any idea what you're doing they're never going to exploit you. But yeah just raise/fold or raise/ship if you think he's 3-bet/folding enough.
06-02-2010 , 11:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waffe23
Ok I'll bite. "Gut feelings" are ******ed. The perfect poker player has no feelings, or emotions for that matter. Emotions lead to tilt, both losing tilt and winning tilt. However, nobody can achieve this besides bots because we are actually human. So, the most skilled players are able to step outside themselves and recognize when emotions are affecting their play and quit. It has nothing to do with feeling like you are going to lose and then quitting, or feeling like you are going to run hot and then not quitting. That being said, I suck, so your mileage may vary.

Anybody agree?
i think 'gut feelings' and being 'emotional' is independent of each other. you can be not affected by emotions (i.e. no tilt, winning or losing) but have an excellent 'gut feeling'. i would equate this to having a sixth sense where you just know whether your opponent has it or not and this sixth sense is in no way affected by winning / losing tilt. obviously, the sixth sense does not happen all the time and not everyone has it. but sometimes you just know it and it's good to go with it if you are certain that it's not a feeling from tilt.

gut feeling to me = a read of some sort and is more prevalent in live poker where you have more info compared to online...
06-02-2010 , 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by porkroll
ty sir. album cover art from the first ween album i bought. bigger images below of front and back of album. underboob is good.



That is sensational, thanks for posting- made my day
06-02-2010 , 11:13 PM
I don't follow my gut. My gut has sh*t for brains.
06-02-2010 , 11:16 PM
i'd wager my gut couldn't beat 25nl
06-02-2010 , 11:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaffer
I don't follow my gut. My gut has sh*t for brains.
lol
06-02-2010 , 11:44 PM
Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $202.30
UTG+1: $112.90
UTG+2: $84.25
MP1: $50.00
MP2: $98.00
Hero (CO): $100.00
BTN: $135.60
SB: $50.00
BB: $103.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 5 5
UTG calls $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($3.50) 2 5 T (3 players)

BB checks, UTG bets $1.00, Hero raises to $6, BB folds, UTG calls $5

Turn: ($15.50) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $15.50

Hero raises to $93, UTG calls $77.50

UTG shows 9 9
Hero shows 5 5



River: ($201.50) 5 (2 players)



Final Pot: $201.50
UTG shows 9 9
Hero shows 5 5
Hero wins $198.50
(Rake: $3.00)

Last edited by K.O.S.; 06-02-2010 at 11:54 PM. Reason: stupid gifbin
06-03-2010 , 12:00 AM
My friend is to Laaks right as he trys to break record, its a live feed. He is hooked (my friend not sure about Laak)

http://acejones.com/unabomber-poker.htm
06-03-2010 , 12:10 AM
WTF? I know him, too. CCL, do you live in RI?
06-03-2010 , 12:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by **********
HOW CAN YOU CALL HIM SAFE!!!!!!!!! why did fatboy cabrera go for the play!
06-03-2010 , 12:14 AM
Heh, that's my text he's laughing at. Cool.
06-03-2010 , 12:18 AM
Yeah you do too Kos13??
06-03-2010 , 12:19 AM
Does this mean I know you??
06-03-2010 , 12:29 AM
Villain is 14/5/56. 40% (12/30) fold to cbet.

Is shoving as a bluff suicidal here? How many 8s are honestly in his range?

Full Tilt - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

LP: $215.85
CO: $133.50
Hero (BTN): $138.05
SB: $67.90
BB: $105.50
UTG: $62.00
UTG+1: $125.15
MP: $132.10
MP+1: $98.50

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has 3 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.00, fold, BB calls $2.00

Flop: ($6.50, 2 players) 3 2 8
BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, BB raises to $13.00, Hero calls $9.00

Turn: ($32.50, 2 players) 8
BB bets $21.00,
06-03-2010 , 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kos13
Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $202.30
UTG+1: $112.90
UTG+2: $84.25
MP1: $50.00
MP2: $98.00
Hero (CO): $100.00
BTN: $135.60
SB: $50.00
BB: $103.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 5 5
UTG calls $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($3.50) 2 5 T (3 players)

BB checks, UTG bets $1.00, Hero raises to $6, BB folds, UTG calls $5

Turn: ($15.50) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $15.50

Hero raises to $93, UTG calls $77.50

UTG shows 9 9
Hero shows 5 5



River: ($201.50) 5 (2 players)



Final Pot: $201.50
UTG shows 9 9
Hero shows 5 5
Hero wins $198.50
(Rake: $3.00)
Very nice use of the GIFs , maybe the best one yet.
06-03-2010 , 12:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Check Check Lay
Yeah you do too Kos13??
Quote:
Originally Posted by Check Check Lay
Does this mean I know you??
Check your PMs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zrap
Very nice use of the GIFs , maybe the best one yet.
TY.
06-03-2010 , 12:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zrap
Very nice use of the GIFs , maybe the best one yet.
i completely agree. the kramer is perfect.
06-03-2010 , 01:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waffe23
Ok I'll bite. "Gut feelings" are ******ed. The perfect poker player has no feelings, or emotions for that matter. Emotions lead to tilt, both losing tilt and winning tilt. However, nobody can achieve this besides bots because we are actually human. So, the most skilled players are able to step outside themselves and recognize when emotions are affecting their play and quit. It has nothing to do with feeling like you are going to lose and then quitting, or feeling like you are going to run hot and then not quitting. That being said, I suck, so your mileage may vary.

Anybody agree?
Don't write off the gut so quickly though - it has its place (limited).

Tangent, and I apologize if I mentioned this before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8DngXKtvEQ
Is part 1 of a 3 part lecture. ~23 minutes total length. Titled "The Science of Happiness and Potential" by Shawn Achor. Would really like some thoughts about the videos from another poker player.

Shawn Achor is founder and CEO of Aspirant, an applied research consulting firm that works with organizations seeking to create a more positive, productive workplace. After spending nearly a decade teaching and researching at Harvard University, Shawn now applies the latest scientific research in positive psychology to deliver lectures and trainings. At the core of Shawn's work is the recent finding that individual happiness and organizational success are inextricably linked. Shawn's highly interactive workshops capitalize on this "Happiness Advantage" by providing practical guidance that enhances employee engagement and ultimately improves the bottom line

I hope you're not too skeptical on science/art/sport/etc outside of poker having applicable skills/strategy to the game of poker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2KKfOGaR_w is a 2 minute Q&A with Gary Kasparov (chess guy). If you think there might be something to what he's saying... you'll love his book "How Life Imitates Chess."


Quote:
Originally Posted by Check Check Lay
My friend is to Laaks right as he trys to break record, its a live feed. He is hooked (my friend not sure about Laak)

http://acejones.com/unabomber-poker.htm
What is this endurance record exactly? Is it trying to see who can endure being at Laak's table the longest without going on life tilt?

nm, google is my friend. 78hours of poker.
http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/phil-l...-record-11672/
"I want to have the record for something."

yawn
06-03-2010 , 01:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Quick sanity check, Villain is 55/22 over 40 hands, has yet to three-bet. CO opens, I three-bet BTN w/ KK to $20, Villain in SB clicks it back to $34, folds to me. I make it $74, he flats. Flop comes A25, not sure if there was an FD and he open shoves roughly one PSB. I???
Anyone else have an opinion on this? (ty badger)
06-03-2010 , 01:25 AM
at the exact same time:

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG+2): $107.55
MP1: $213.40
MP2: $105.00
CO: $100.00
BTN: $100.00
SB: $106.25
BB: $184.85
UTG: $126.80
UTG+1: $124.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+2 with 2 2
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 5 folds, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($15.50) Q 2 K (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12, UTG folds

Turn: ($39.50) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($39.50) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $55.50
Hero mucks 2h 2s
BB shows Qd Tc (a flush, Queen high)
BB wins $52.75
(Rake: $2.75)



Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+2: $175.10
MP1: $120.00
MP2: $130.00
CO: $76.00
Hero (BTN): $98.00
SB: $168.10
BB: $114.50
UTG: $103.60
UTG+1: $76.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with J J
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $4, 3 folds, Hero calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) A J 8 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+2 calls $7

Turn: ($23.50) 3 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($23.50) 9 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $17, Hero folds

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $23.50
UTG+2 wins $22.35
(Rake: $1.15)


i guess the 2nd one is my fault for trying to induce. i almost called anyway , he bet 5/6 times.
06-03-2010 , 01:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Anyone else have an opinion on this? (ty badger)
type "FML" and just fold he just do that with an ace for sure dont level yourself and think "if he have an ace he would try to trap me and not just donk bet "
06-03-2010 , 01:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Anyone else have an opinion on this? (ty badger)
fwiw i'd fold. i've seen Ax a lot from this line (please don't ask me to explain why they do that) - and you're drawing ~dead against that.
06-03-2010 , 01:31 AM
Well I wasn't thinking that he couldn't have Ax, because I know they do play Ax that way, but I was thinking more that he COULD have other stuff, or is it crazy for me to expect TT-JJ here sometimes?
06-03-2010 , 01:32 AM
screwed once more

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $75.00
SB: $59.15
Hero (BB): $112.00
UTG: $77.45
UTG+1: $65.50
MP1: $113.75
MP2: $226.00
CO: $51.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A Q
UTG raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $4, 2 folds, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, Hero raises to $24, UTG raises to $77.45 all in, 2 folds, SB calls $55.15 all in, Hero calls $53.45

Flop: ($222.05) A 8 4

Turn: ($222.05) 4

River: ($222.05) 8

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $222.05
SB shows 8s 7s (a full house, Eights full of Fours)
Hero shows As Qs (two pair, Aces and Eights)
UTG shows Qc Kc (two pair, Eights and Fours)
Hero wins $36.60
SB wins $182.45
(Rake: $3.00)

Last edited by five4suited; 06-03-2010 at 01:32 AM. Reason: this guy sat in for 13 hands, gotta love it
06-03-2010 , 01:32 AM
fwiw ATC preflop was a little different but had random fish donk jam after flatting a squeeze with Q7 on AQ5r. Of course it was a 1k pot and he got there, but that's not important.

      
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