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04-04-2013 , 06:27 PM

#2626

MaliceUW

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Leo,

I realize you will never change your mind, but does the simple fact that literally every single person in the golf forum, whether they agree with your overall position or not, thinks your arguments are terrible make you at least contemplate that you may be wrong?

If I were to see a bunch of smart people simultaneously questioning/berating my thoughts on something, I might take a step back and at least consider I may be wrong.

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04-04-2013 , 06:39 PM

#2627

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Don't the Republicans use that argument also?

Go Leo speak up for us Tiger haters.

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04-04-2013 , 06:52 PM

#2628

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Originally Posted by lozen

Don't the Republicans use that argument also?

Go Leo speak up for us Tiger haters.

If you actually agree with the dumb stuff he says, your just as much of an idiot. He is definitely not the voice Id want if I was in the Jack group

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04-04-2013 , 07:11 PM

#2629

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Originally Posted by lozen

I disagree Tiger has his favorite courses that he play's a lot and wins at Masters same location every time. If there is one Major I think the Tiger Lovers need is the Master's. I think the British and PGA are not his best chance

he torched Muirfield last time except for the 81 in the high wind and rains. 67 on Sunday.

He has a real good shot there.

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04-04-2013 , 07:18 PM

#2630

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Tiger currently at 6:1 to win the British is the freeeeeeeeeeist money of all time

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04-04-2013 , 07:20 PM

#2631

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Leo confirmed off his rocker.

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04-04-2013 , 07:34 PM

#2632

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Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck

If you actually agree with the dumb stuff he says, your just as much of an idiot. He is definitely not the voice Id want if I was in the Jack group

No but I do agree that many believe that Tiger must win more Majors than Jack to be considered the GOAT. Why do the Tiger lovers have to declare it now why not wait till his career is over unless you think he has no chance of beating Jack

1 more Major for me and I change it from GOHT to GOAT

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04-04-2013 , 07:38 PM

#2633

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Why do the Tiger lovers have to declare it now why not wait till his career is over unless you think he has no chance of beating Jack

For the same reasons no one debates who is going to win the 1986 Masters. Once it happens, there is no debate. It's a fact.

The difference between Jack taintsniffers and the rest of us is that we realize the competition is already over and we know the results. All that is left is style points.

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04-04-2013 , 07:42 PM

#2634

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The reason Tigers are closer is not depth of field but lack of greatness. I'm sorry it just is.

here are jack's 2nds from the 60's ok almost half are to legends. those same legends would still post those numbers today. They would still put 4 rounds in 60's just like they used to.

7 seconds in the 60's

seconds were to palmer who shot a 65 to beat jack by 2 when jack was an am trevino jack shoots 67 in us open but couldnt catch lees 4 rounds in the 60's. 64 open championship was a Tiger like runner up for Jack but he closed 66 68. shoots 69 in another tiger like loss. Lost by 2 to player. Shot 64 in final round in a tiger like loss. shot even to tiger out.

thats what? 3 out of 7 were to all time greats. I'll do the 70's later I'm jammed for time.

Tiger out means lose to a bad player. Tony Lema, Roberto D, etc

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Tiger has some records that most likely will never ever be broken. The only record Jack has right now if Im not mistaken is the 18 majors and thats going to be broken anyways. Sounds like the GOAT to me. Jacks argument is just awful as there isnt one

No he has tons left I believe there might be a couple that Tiger can't break because it was for an amateur. I could very well be mistaken on this tho I'd have to confirm it. But Jacks top 10's and top 5's Tiger probably has no shot at as well.

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04-04-2013 , 07:44 PM

#2635

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Hagen has 11 majors but no slams. Exactly how could he have won all the slam events? As a pro he couldn't enter the amateur events. The last of his 11 wins came in 1929. The Masters didn't start until 1934 and wasn't even considered a major until much later.

Hogan's era didn't give much importance to majors either. In 1953 the PGA and Open Championships were played at the same time.

He did compete in the masters.

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04-04-2013 , 07:50 PM

#2636

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Yeah but you can't use facts and stats to prove your point. Those number don't tell us "how" the tournament was played. They just tell us how the tournament was played.

This is my favorite part of all of this lulz.

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04-04-2013 , 08:12 PM

#2637

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Your Boss Jack didn't have 6 of 19 2nds vs multi major champs he had 13 of 19 to multi major champs.

Palmer 2
Player 1
Seve 1
Miller 1
Watson 4
Trevino 4

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04-04-2013 , 08:23 PM

#2638

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Originally Posted by golfnpoker

Leo confirmed preaching the gospel.

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04-04-2013 , 08:29 PM

#2639

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mucksandgravs you see any punks on that list of 13?

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04-04-2013 , 08:58 PM

#2640

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lol. just noticed mucks and leo both from NC. related? you know both your wives are cousins of your second uncle or some crap like that?

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04-04-2013 , 08:59 PM

#2641

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Legends of the game leo

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04-04-2013 , 09:00 PM

#2642

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lol. just noticed mucks and leo both from NC. related? you know both your wives are cousins of your second uncle or some crap like that?

Another personal attack. Shocker

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04-04-2013 , 09:01 PM

#2643

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Leo,

You coming to cherokee?

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04-04-2013 , 09:05 PM

#2644

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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs

Leo,

You coming to cherokee?

No my sister picked this weekend to get married. I'll be in Savannah. Besides all my roll is stuck on Full Tilt. Golfproboy75 is up there tho. I have 5% of him this weekend.

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04-04-2013 , 09:13 PM

#2645

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Originally Posted by KenoVictoryLap

I guess if you include past Major winners and many on the PGA tour and Brandell as taintsniffers your right than.

Though no one hear has won a major or a PGA event so I hold their opinion to high regard also

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04-04-2013 , 10:06 PM

#2646

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As far as depth of tour goes 41% of the majors during Jack's reign were won by either single or double major winners.

single= 29% double=12% if I take out Watson's then it's up to 45% of available majors.

I ran from 1960 Jacks runner up as an Am to 1986. That seems like more than 11 guys capable of winning.

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04-04-2013 , 10:20 PM

#2647

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If I adjusted Jack's era to exclude big blocks eaten up by Hall Of Famers then I bet the percentages get close. By Hof I'm just going to use 4+ majors during the time frame not necessarily actual inductees.

This might have to wait a few days tho.

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04-04-2013 , 10:22 PM

#2648

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Originally Posted by MaliceUW

Malice,
This isn't true. BO is yet to say that Leo's arguments are terrible. Which says a lot about BO. Not only is he willing to be wrong, he's willing to let guys like Leo and mucks do his bidding. Sad, really. While calling the people who are objectively right "lobotomized" and all kinds of other words that would get anybody else banned.

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Originally Posted by golfnpoker

Leo confirmed off his rocker.

Leo is the Uncle Leo of our forum.

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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain

This is my favorite part of all of this lulz.

Everyone here hates me. I figure at least I can try to make just 1 person laugh before I'm perma'd from the Jack Forum.

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Originally Posted by leoslayer

No my sister picked this weekend to get married. I'll be in Savannah. Besides all my roll is stuck on Full Tilt. Golfproboy75 is up there tho. I have 5% of him this weekend.

It surprises nobody at all that you and mucks are simpatico.

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04-04-2013 , 10:40 PM

#2649

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Originally Posted by leoslayer

Your Boss Jack didn't have 6 of 19 2nds vs multi major champs he had 13 of 19 to multi major champs.

Palmer 2
Player 1
Seve 1
Miller 1
Watson 4
Trevino 4

LOL all that proves is the fields are deeper now.