he's in pretty rarefied air for under30 pro golfer's all-time.

I've already posted about it but I don't see how it's possible for him to not be a HOFer at this point.

He's got ~10 wins
2 different majors, 1 of which was a historic blowout.
1 World Golf Classic
1 Players (5th major)
Former #1
Winning putt at Ryder Cup (not worth much but it's highlight reel imagery)
Good guy seems like

If he's not a HOFer then I think their criteria are too tough. It's getting harder and harder to win tournaments (just look how many first timers won this year).

I mean if Rory dies tomorrow he's definitely in and his resume is worse than Kaymer's. And he's only 4 years younger than Kaymer.

But Rory's death at the age of 25 would have something to do with his getting into the Hall of Fame.

And as would Kaymer's death at age 29. Especially with the Pinehurst Payne Parallel.

But even assuming the "young death" thing didn't account for any of it Rory would be in with 2 major wins by 8 strokes and a world #1. His "mystique" would play a large part. Kaymer never had that mystique - but his overall resume is stronger right now.

Fred Couples just got in with 15 career wins and 1 major.

Borderline guys?:

Stricker
Furyk
Kaymer
Bubba
Rory

Potential:
Zach Johnson
Westwood
Donald
Kuchar
DJ

Who else am I missing...

Bubba is not borderline. Dude has 2 Masters. End of story.

Can Lee Westwood really get in with no majors?

What is McIlroy's "mystique" ?

Why argue about this, they made it pretty clear what the criteria will be to be considered and Id think if you do meet the criteria you will get voted in

"A player must have a cumulative total of 15 or more official victories on any of the original members of the International Federation of PGA Tours (PGA TOUR, European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, Sunshine Tour, Asian Tour and PGA of Australasia) OR at least two victories among the following events: The Masters, THE PLAYERS Championship, the U.S. Open, The Open Championship and the PGA Championship.

A player must be at least 40 years old at the start of the year in which selections are made (example: A player must have turned 40 years old prior to January 1, 2014 in order to qualify for the Class of 2015), or be at least five years removed from being an active participant (as determined by the Tour) on any of the original members of the International Federation of PGA Tours."

That being said, Westwood easily gets in

There are no doubt quite a few, although a comprehensive list may include some Merion-type ones from the past that would require a lot of trickery to properly defend against today's technology. Not to mention mention there are some that could host but the members aren't interested.

As much as I like the changes to Pinehurst, I agree with Spenda's take. It's taken an Open stop I couldn't stand and made marginally less annoying. It's very redundant no matter what the deal is with the rough. Very few standout holes or landmarks, no water hazards, negligible elevation change. Kudos to the USGA for fiddling with the distances on holes like 3, 7, and 13 to make it about as interesting as possible, and their selections for hole locations on the weekend appeared to be diabolical at times without being outright unfair.

Definitely looking forward to Chambers Bay. If it plays even tougher than it did for the Amateur then it could be the bloodbath so many seem to want.

Well on PGA Tour website Rory's career mystique index is 7.4 while Kaymer's is only 3.2.

Obviously I can't quantify that but Rory is definitely more famous in the golf world. He came out really young and had some dominant wins. Nike gave him $250 Million. He's in all kinds of commercials. His gallery is gigantic. Not sure you can really argue that Rory has an aura about him that Kaymer has lacked (at least until now). I think that stuff would play into it.

But your intimation that a good golfer dying at 25 is a big deal while a good golfer dying at 29 isn't is not right.

Holy ****, is he really that rich already? I didn't know. As for his mystique....I guess his being known merely as "Rory" says a lot about it.

I didn't mean to intimate that. I merely was trying to point out that the point you were making/criteria you were using was not a good one (how a 25 year old would be viewed by the Hall of Fame if he tragically died at that age).

Its one of the reasons we will never see another Tiger. So much money before you accomplish anything. It has to impact the drive of the average athlete.

Monty was elected with a grand total of zero PGA Tour and Major wins.

Winning the Euro Order of Merit 200 years in a row helped

how is winning a major twice at the same course better than winning 2 majors on different courses?(assuming the other courses were not some easy layouts)

plus bubba has won only a handful of other tournies, i think. if bubba's a lock shouldn't kaymer be as well?

not 100% on the courses they play for the open across the pond, but imho masters seems like the easiest major to win. remove the aura of the masters(the quintessential white-boys club that reps everything ugly about country club golf and its exclusionary history) and you have a very well manicured course thats looks appealling to the eye. i mean you know the layout going in every year as well as the pin placements. as a pro golfer it seems like the easiest major to prep for.

idk, im def. biased, but i think the masters are beloved for all the wrong reasons. the two opens seem like the true test of golf and the masters and pga are a tie for me. pga prob more of a true test as well. master's more of getting the green jacket and being part of a club for which i have know idea why one would want to be a part of(unless your a southern white man with nostalgia hanging on the porch in the form of a confederate flag!)ha!

"Hiiii, I'm Joe Buck and it's Fathers Day and we are here today at the US Open to talk about ME and MY father..."

just ****ing shoot me now

Where does Kaymer rank in Germany on the sports star popularity list? Do Germans care about golf at all?

Does anyone know if they are going to replay the coverage in the US? Or at least provide a replay online?

NBCsports seems to have replays from various events, but none from the US Open...

I can point you to some videos of paint drying if you'd like more excitement.

Good interview of Johnny Miller right after he finishes the US Open broadcast.

http://golfweek.com/news/2014/jun/15...inal-coverage/

When asked if his open win was well received in Germany "yeah until 1200 Monday". That's when Germany Portugal World Cup match started...

Eh, Tiger had more money than he could ever spend as soon as he turned pro.

Rory is a fatty at heart who rarely practiced (compared to Tiger at the same age) even before he got a huge payday.

Bubba's two majors are not enough to get him in the hall of fame yet, though he certainly has the talent.

Andy North, Lee Janzen, john daly, Retief Goosen, and Angel Cabrera are not going to be hall of famers. I don't think Mark O'Meara should be either.

Don't use Freddy as a baseline or average for the hall of fame. By most accounts he is a borderline/bottom tier guy.

So this was the last year that NBC will be televising the U.S. Open, is that right? On FOX next year?

Quick question: I saw Kaymer take out his scorecard after the second shot on 18. He seemed to be scribbling on it for quite a while. Anyone know what he may have written? What kinds of notes he was making? Thanks much.