panthers beat up on a pitiful schedule last year, their division was a crapfest and they also played the AFC south, believe they played the horrible nfc east as well...... still a good team but 15-1 was a mirage

this year the pats faced 1 really good qb all regular season and lost at home to him, they got to beat up on the afc south and the nfc west and many backup qb's

with that said i assumed it was a +6 and +250 or +300 line not a +3 line, i think its pretty close to a flip but would not be 'all over' it

how did the chiefs lose to this steelers team?

K2D you can only beat whats in front of you. Kind of hard to downgrade a team who lost two games with one being with Brady out because the other teams they played arent good.Esp when its a team like the Pats who're always one of the best teams ITL with B&B. This team may not be the best pats team we've seen but their still as good as the majority of the pats teams that are always super bowl contenders.

Anyways the advanced stats have the pats as the best team as well. Interesting enough they have the falcons as the third best team. Hopefully its a good game unlike last years dud. I'd imagine with these two offenses it should be much more exciting.

because the steelers were better

its not necessarily downgrading them its just saying they arent as good as their record, its like when a 1 loss SEC team makes it to the college football playoff over an undefeated mid major (to a lesser extent)

its also that so many people will bet the pats that the line actually has value the other way....... but again this was said when i thought it was going to be +6 and +250ish, now there is very little value on the flip

You dont need to look at their record. Looking at DVOA which takes into account how good every team each team plays and every advanced metric out there still shows them as the best team in the current season.

On top of that its pretty obv the pats are one of the top 3 teams in every nfl season for the past 17 seasons. Trying to say oh their only 14-2 because they havent played anyone when their always one of the best teams is kind of LOL. Not to mention they started the season without Brady and still went 3-1.

i still think they are a very good team, but if they played a tougher schedule they wouldn't likely be 14-2, when you only play 1 good QB all regular season and lose to him at home that isn't a good sign

they are the best team in the AFC and maybe the best team in the league, but if you could get +250 or better on this falcons offense i think it would be extremely worth it

i dont know what to think about dvoa anymore..... they had the eagles as the top team in the league through like week 6 or 8...... and last year had the chiefs as the 6th best offense in the league........ obviously chiefs offense nowhere close to that

the patriots have a great QB and a great coach, they are going to beat bad teams damn near every time they play them because they dont make mistakes

its similar to the chiefs sans the great QB, the reason the chiefs win 9+ games under reid every year isnt because they have a ton of talent it is because they play nit ball and dont beat themselves, then they get to the playoffs against teams that can make plays and.....


some interesting patriots stats

when brady has faced mike tomlin he has thrown 22 td's and 0 int's....... and tomlin just keeps sitting back in a zone and getting shredded

the last 96 times new england has been ahead at half time at home, including postseason, they are 95-1

that is ****ing insane

All that said i think the falcons chance of beating the pats is bigger then what i would of gave the borncos vs panthers last season. Great thing about nfl is every game is such high variance that anyone can win. As we seen when the titan that was the 16-0 pats lost to the giants in the super bowl.

Going to be interesting to see how the pats stop the falcons rbs in the passing game. BB likes to shut down the opposing offenses biggest wep so i expect him to focus on shutting down Julio. Colemon and Freeman should have alot of openings in the passing game.

This pats offense line is amazing and Brady is going to have ALL day to pick apart whats a really bad secondary.

Nah sports blogs tough bro. Guys that are into that sheit thats all they do. Wake up listen to sports talk radio, pods,read and watch sports. You'd need to be consuming at least like 50 hours a week of sports and its tough to keep up at that level while living in Asia. Alot of competition for sports writing.

Theirs a couple guys on 2+2 who write for sports sites and these guys are super smart dudes who blow me away with some of the stuff they know. Actually theirs a guy who used to post on here who got a job with a nba front office from writing long term in the nba threads.

falcons were able to get quite a bit of pressure on rodgers and the packers oline is great at passblocking

problem with the shutting down julio thing is that they have so many other weapons, they cant just put butler and a safety on julio like they did with brown or the other guys will torch them

whats the nba dudes name?

i totally agree, i would never try and start a sports blog (for monetary reasons) because the competition is way too hard and there are so many things working against you

you are never outranking ESPN, cbs, ringer, or 10 year old established sports blogs so good luck getting that third page of google traffic (if you can even get to page 3)

secondly, you spend all day writing a post about the past weekends games and by wednesday nobody will care about it anymore and will be thinking about the next week...... and generally smaller blogs can't just post a topic and rank on google within a day like espn can

third, as you mentioned in asia by the time i watch games im 24-72 hours behind the news cycle to begin with

but if rehabbing wanted to pay me to write for his site by the word and i didnt have to cross my fingers that i would get traffic it is a different story

He would probably relocate you also. Seems like the start up money is pretty huge.

sethypoo some numbers, think he may of been a mod at one time as well. Doesnt post here anymore though.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...In-Three-Years

Yeah thats why i think the falcons rbs will be a problem in the pass game. Pats will double Julio deep which is gonna make it tough to stop the rbs. No way BB is going to let Julio torch him like the packers just did.

oh ok i thought maybe it was a dude who i played with in vegas but not him

belichek is famous for 'taking away' your number 1 option, but so far this year with all the weapons they have that hasnt been a great strategy vs the falcons.... then again with all those weapons and that scheme there really is no great strategy, easiest way is to get a pass rush but the pats can't do that

andy reid is a fat loser and alex smith got cut from the 49ers because he sucked.

the chiefs are just one of those loser organizations. might get another shot at the super bowl in 2037.

andy reid is 10th all time in wins and alex smith was traded for 2 2nd rounders not cut

good try though

Could be worse. My hometown team is the lions.

Andy Reid sucks
Took him until the last 6 games this season to realize Kelce may be a decent TE. Just ignores the guy for years.
I shouldn't say he sucks as he always has solid teams but seems like the kind of guy who is never going to get over the hump.
Marty ball light

you know what coach is awesome? the one with the elite QB

This is very true. McNabb had some elite years, didn't he?

his best year was something in the 30ish td 8 int range when he had reid calling plays and was throwing to TO

wouldnt really consider him an elite QB though, top 10ish in the league never top 5

most of his seasons were alex smith esque.... not many picks but not many td's either

to be fair he really never had much talent to throw to outside of the short time with TO and bryan westbrook, reid clearly believes that you dont need to invest in skill position guys and that he can scheme people open, a ridiculous amount of his top draft picks over the years have been defensive lineman

never realized how conservative he was until he got to KC, all you here is how he throws the ball too much and forgets the run...... the real issue is now he has reverted to high school offense and the throws are just bubble screens or 2 yard hitches on 3rd and 3

its frustrating because every year under him you win more games then you probably should, but at the same time you know you are never gonna win it all unless tom brady forgets he is tom brady........ but wtf is the alternative

everyones solution is find an elite QB.... great plan! someone should inform reid that it would be a good idea to try that so he can go get one

lolzz Patriots.

Mcnabb was pretty good. Six pro bowls. He never had any good wrs besides TO that one season. Mcnabb won alot of games. 5 nfc championships is pretty sick.

He might not have the huge statistical seasons of some other qbs but that can just be a product of the offense he played in . If you take a qb like Matt Stafford hes thrown for 5k yds 2 times and 40tds,30tds twice etc but those are meaningless stats in meaningless games.

I think Reids a good coach as well. When you have a terrible franchise you see some really crap coaches. Reid gets his teams in good spots with chances of making it to the big game pretty consistently as we see him doing in KC recently and with the eagles in the past. 5 nfc championships with that super bowl loss and doing a good job over in KC currently. Hes pretty consistently been a top 5-10 coach over his career.

any running qb was awesome on madden

main thing that stand out about reid is that he gets his team up for road games, just this year chiefs won @den @oak @atl @SD @indy, last year won at @den

thats more quality road wins then the chiefs had in the 15 years before reid was their coach

I like Andy Reid, I think he's a good egg.

Pooter, was that 75% offer a deal to franchise Dante's site?

Im glad our dirty little hero found some guidance.

Dante u like rap at all? Can u name some OG KC rappers for me if so?

techn9ne is only i can think of