Of course not. Most privates would be for goods/services or cash but it's not hard for the bank to notice someone having more income than what their job pays them.

It's not that bizarre since gambling is illegal and having a second job on E2 visa is too.
How many teachers have you know who got fired after coming out to co teacher? How many women do you know that got told they won't get paid until they bone their boss?
That's bizarre to me.

I've never heard of that, but interested to read some news stories if you have links

Not all gambling here is illegal. One can sign up to wager on sports (2tm parlay minimum) and pay for their wagers and have winnings deposited right back into their same Korean bank account. The odds are a serious ripoff as are most other government lotteries, etc, but once in a while they have some lines that are way off or at least enough to take advantage of. This past NBA season, sometimes game lines were off by as many as 5-6 points, with ML's off as well.

Also, I would think if someone who was depositing more money into their account than they were making from their "main" employment, I would think one could say they won money playing the lottery at the corner convenience stores or playing poker or any other games at the casinos here.

No news stories about this but tons of threads on Waygook.org, English teacher site for teachers in Korea. Mostly it's done that the teacher is let go due to misconduct even after having no problems for X amount of months.
It's pretty common knowledge among foreign teachers who have been in Korea for some time that coming out is a job killer and you can't do anything about it.
http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,52003.0.html

Also interesting is the slander laws. 1 female teacher made a negative post about private school and got sued since she was still in Korea. They said it damaged their schools reputation even though the information was completely true.

I understand a few people have been here in Korea longer than me but my information comes from first hand accounts of thousands of other teachers who pass information along via FB and waygook.

I never said I know all the laws or other things just trying to help people not make some of the mistakes I made.
****, my first year I was driving a motorcycle with no license and no insurance 45 mins to work and back each day. My boss knew, and some Official education staff knew to. If I had an accident I would have been in Jail for that.
I only way I learned what the DUI limit is was when a buddy got pulled over after drinking a beer and driving home. It's .05 fyi. 1 beer and better take a taxi. He was .051.
I also found out that if you move to a new place you need to tell immigration within 10 days or you get a fine. So it doesn't matter if you sign the lease in Nov, like I did, but don't move until Jan you could get a fine. Be nice if you told me that in English!!!

I've seen people gambling at PC bongs and even at festivals but I wasn't aware they could do it online legally. I know that some casinos let Koreans in but I think it's only 1 or 2? Not sure. I know on Jeju that Korean people can go to horse track and play.

Can foreigners play the lottery in Korea? I have never tried it so. If you deposit cash yeah you could just say you got luck at casino but an online transfer from a offshore site might be harder to explain. I've done the cash thing.
I just wouldn't do on a E2 visa. That's me. Do whatever you want. If you're on a tourist visa, F visa, or d10 no worries.

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Booking club happened tonight. I'll describe the club we went to:

We arrive around 11. I think it was a good time to arrive but in the future if I go back (and I probably will) I would arrive at 10. We went to a place at the Riviera Hotel near Kangnam. I had a Korean friend doing all the work of coordinating. We got a reserved booth that was curtained off. Price was 600,000 won. There were three of us there. Myself, my one American friend and my Korean friend.

Bottom line up front, the girls there were, for the most part, attractive and completely DTF. The waiter brings one in for each guy until she's dismissed or she leaves (with us it was a lot of the latter, a lot of these girls were cool with foreigners but terrified to try and speak English no matter how kind/smooth/handsome/whatever we were. There was a 40 minutes period from like 120-200 where it was dance exclusive and there was no booking available but other than that we were there for roughly 5.5 hours.

Included in the price was:
2 bottles of Absolut, 20 beers (though the waiter was adamant that beers were unlimited, he was completely willing to bring us more as the night went on) mixers, juice, punch and standard snacks to include fruit, candies and even gummy bears (ftw.) On top of that we tipped the waiter about 70,000 won for his work. He was busting his ass all night to get us girl after girl after girl as we dismissed them or they left (mostly the latter.)

Truthfully, booking clubs require some Korean. I think during the night we met about 25 girls total. This may seem awesome until you realize that to do that there were a lot of girls saying goodbye throughout the night. We didn't know how to game them. My bare bones Korean certainly wasn't enough for 90% of them. To be honest, about 20% of the girls the waiter brought bailed immediately when they saw us. Maybe they thought we were ugly/scared/whatever or they were afraid to speak English (I'm assuming the latter.)

That said, there were probably half a dozen that would have gone to a motel with me if I was in the mood, and my friends both felt the same. Actually, my Korean friend probably doubled that number in all fairness. Those girls are there to hook up. Period. Getting numbers is possible, and we all did, very easily, but that's not saying much. Shipping at the club is the way to go in that situation.

I have a feeling we got a lot of the bottom tier in the club, in face I know we did because I was out on the dance floor and saw that it was so. I kind of expected that to be the case but still, you need a strong sense of self worth not to be turned completely off by being constantly rejected... because unless you're a God among men you will be. Repeatedly. That is if you don't speak Korean. If you speak Korean fluently I would guess that your success rate for at least making out and an idea toward the hotel is >50% and that isn't an exaggeration.

One good thing, if the girls weren't interested they didn't play us and sit around to drink our liquor/beer. That was pretty ****ing sweet. They just said goodbye and bailed. So I was cool with that. They weren't wasting time. Everybody was there for the same thing.

The club slowed a bit around 330 in the morning but there were still some lookers to be had approaching 5. If you could ship them. I assumed they were waiting to be shipped until my Korean friend reminded me that the subway didn't reopen until 530 and it was possible they were just killing time until then. I would say that throughout the night there were ~100 women in the place total with ~40% of them being 7s or higher. I was still attracted to the other 60% but... yellow fever you know. And the women on the lower end of the scale wreak of desperation. They're probably your best bet if you're a foreigner so if you go I hope you have a bit of yellow fever.

Unlike clubs I've been before the wait staff was excellent, they busted their asses for us. I was very pleased. And there were no hidden charges. I'm likely going back, and with the first experience under my belt I think I'll have better luck next time around as I know what I'm looking for (and will know more Korean!)

All that said, I have never been more motivated to study Korean. I'm going to be ****ing fluent in like three months with this motivation.

the art of booking

step 1 would probably be get a room not a booth so all the girl's don't think you're broke

Did any of them even speak English?

Sounds like pissing away lots of money unless you're too shy for normal clubs & bars if that booth was the cheapest option, but I guess it's a korean thing.

Getting rejected by girls is just like grinding out small edges at poker - all a volume game. The lesser looking girls there probably handle it a lot worse than you, hence the reek of desperation.

i'll agree at this point. i was a bit afraid for the first time going to this place as i just wasn't sure whether or not it was a situation where we would be strong armed to keep spending more and more money like happens at times in other clubs around the world. It was all our first experience and we didn't know any better. The pricing was laid out in tiers with tier one being 450k for an open booth, 600k for a private booth curtained off and then i think it was 900k+ for different kinds of rooms. now that i trust that waiter, i know the girls in the club look good and i feel safe there i'd lean toward the room i think as well. iyo, is it worth the 50% price increase?

any way you shake it, it's a hell of an experience. it's like speed dating on crack or like a live action version of that game where you have to keep making choices of what to say so that your date just doesn't up and bail. super intense for sure.

i'd say ~1 in 4 of the girls that were brought in spoke good or better english. another 25% good enough to hold a conversation with if you spoke slowly and the other half it was tough goings. so maybe yes, a waste in your opinion. but i thought the experience was worth the 200 i dropped.

i went back and read my initial post... i wrote it while i was fairly hammered. please excuse my homonym misuse

if you have a good waiter they will give you unlimited whiskey/beer after the base price of 1mill~ on a friday/sat so its pretty cost efficient for 3-4 guys

more tips:

3 is the magic number for your crew, 4 is ok, 2 is ok if you guys are ready to try hard and go through a lot of girls (sometimes u need downtime, which you get more of if theres more guys...though u can always ask the waiter to stop booking for a while)

only go on friday/sat nights, it's dead other nights since a long time

you should probably only go with only 1 non-korean in the group maximum unless the foreigners are korean speaking otherwise the girls will get scared and their first instinct will be to run away. even if the waiter forces them to sit down or whatever it's still definitely an uphill battle in that case

rooms in general are way better (better to get one with a bathroom in it so you don't have constantly walk across the club to take a piss). also don't let the waiters give you the **** rooms all the way in the back area...girls don't like being dragged that far and they seem to be in general more sour when they get to those rooms

the booths/curtain booths can be okay if you don't speak korean because the music blasting will make for a more hype environment and less awkward moments due to communication issues

in general rooms are far better because it's what the girls are comfortable with, though its important to create a good 분위기 (atmosphere). it can get quiet and awkward in there if people are quiet. it's very important that everyone is having fun, participating in drinking/discussions etc. with the group as a whole especially in the first few hours when the girls are more sober-ish. if the atmosphere is sullen the girls will want to leave (pretty obvious that it's better when everyone is having fun)

if it's very obvious that the girl likes you and you like her as well don't just get her number if she has to take a piss unless you're fully confident she's coming back. escorting her to the bathroom so that she doesn't get abducted by other waiters is always a strong move.

if early in the night you meet a girl that seems very interested in you, don't be put off if she wants to leave and go hang out with her friends. just get her number and hit her up in an hour or 2 after meeting more girls. also i've seen lots of guys after establishing a good first impression just getting her number and telling her to go do some more booking and meet more guys. korean girl's standard reaction to this (when they like you) is to laugh and be like WTF? but it's better than just sitting around and letting it get boring. it's pretty weak in general to just sit there all night with 1 girl. either make an early exit with her or kick her out and summon her later. it's all about using your time wisely.

I havnt done the booking clubs too much but theyre super hit or miss with me and i know exactly why. it really comes down to the guys you go out with, and if theyre fun or not. Im actualy not a big drinker which is why i sortve avoid these type of places ( i always end up in front of the toilet a couple of hours in since we're pouring so fast). The times i did not have a great time is when there was more than one foriegner lol (no offence of course, i am american as well).

im not 100% sure but i think you can neogotiate for pricing. I remember my hyungs are always talking to someone for a little while before getting our room.

less walls of text, and more pics of slootz plz

https://www.google.co.kr/search?q=Cl...w=1280&bih=662

since you've said you like to spend less than $1k a month... and these places are upwards of 1K a night, why bother. If you come to Korea you'll get absolutely nowhere.

sorry bro, didn't realize I had to spend in the excess of $1k a month to ask for pictures of Korean slootz.

If I went I would be slamming so much tail over there, they would put me in the newest sonic game.

LOL

Speaking of monthly expenses, how easy is it to get by in Seoul for $2000 - $2500 per month? Is Busan a much better choice for someone with that budget?

LOL nice line, but srsly come and give it your best shot. You won't get anywhere near the amount of gash avail in SEAsia here. It's totally different world here.

I came to Korea with the same expectations you have after living in Thailand for 2 years. I'd nailed hundreds of birds there. Korea is a big step up in class. You really don't understand how different it is..

It is more difficult than the UK is by far, AND you need to learn some of the language. much more so than in south east asian countries.

I here you man, but I have more charisma than anyone else I know. sure it will be hard, but ill still be slaying harder than Spryo the dragon up in sort kroea. Don't question, no diggity ,no doubt.

It's fine. That's what English teachers make. Busan is moderately cheaper but no real difference.

Rent $600+
Korean beer at a regular bar $3-4
Import beer at a regular bar $7-9
Cocktail $7-10
Basic Korean food at a cheap restaurant $4-6
Meat restaurant or Western restaurant $20-$30
Coffee $4-5
Sandwich in cafe $5
Subway way/bus $1.50 (maybe, I never use them)

etcetera etcetera

Busan is probably more fun overall than Seoul. Just my opinion and what Korean friends tell me.. subjective tho so take it fwiw

Busan is awesome! Girls seemed more friendly and foreigners are more of a novelty compared to seoul. Busan girls have a more sexy and down style while seoul girls arr a little more classy (at least on the outside, haha). Several girls told me I had pretty eyes in one weekend whereas I rarely got that in two years in Seoul.

Also, booking is pretty much out these days as far as I know. If you have money, just get a table at octagon/ellui/Answer, it's like a booking club except u are your own waiter. Therr are more and hotter girls at these clubs, although on average, they are not looking to hook up as much as those who go to booking clubs. Hookinf up still isnt that hard tho. Either way, getting a table at one of the Gangnam clubs is a blast. It's like being a kid in a candy shop.

The Gangnam clubbing system is kind of a hybrid between western clubs and Korean ones, where having a table and feeding girls alcohol is still important (although not necessary). If you don't wanna spend $120-150 on a night out partying , itaewon and Hongdae ftw.

Also people's elbow who are u. Lol Bangkok.