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11-16-2011 , 08:52 PM

#751

00Snitch

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I believe rack OR floor would be acceptable. The rack obviously being the easier of the two.

As utexas said: no jerk or push press. Just a press with layback.

HYAHCHACHACHAHCAHCAH

11-16-2011 , 09:02 PM

#752

-C-P-

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Not sure why the hate, when I read that, I take it to mean Rip's "new" method.

I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of those guys do it (like utexas). Depends on if they are willing to gain some weight and somehow manage to stay healthy.

11-16-2011 , 09:09 PM

#753

00Snitch

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It should be noted that most people, unless you've got a weirdly good press, will most likely be benching at least 400lbs to be capable of a 300lbs press

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Probably more. Id think a 450ish bench is more of an equivalent. We should start a Race to 450 Bench thread

>_<

11-16-2011 , 09:10 PM

#754

fredd-bird

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From wat I was reading over there, the third edition is going to teach the OHP more like an Olympic press. It's kinda like the one Snitch linked only not as exaggerated.

source

Tommy Suggs teaching Oly press

11-16-2011 , 09:12 PM

#755

00Snitch

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Originally Posted by -C-P-

Yeah, I don't know what the "new" method is... eitherway... It's just indicative of the general ******edness on that forum. They're talking about a super elite lift like they're just going to add 5lbs a week up to 300lbs ezgame.

11-16-2011 , 09:14 PM

#756

00Snitch

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Originally Posted by fredd-bird

From wat I was reading over there, the third edition is going to teach the OHP more like an Olympic press. It's kinda like the one Snitch linked only not as exaggerated.

source

Tommy Suggs teaching Oly press

Haven't read the links yet... but why would they do that?

11-16-2011 , 09:22 PM

#757

fredd-bird

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I didn't see Rip actually post the reasoning behind the change, but I gave up looking tbh.

Best explanation I saw was something about this recruiting more muscles and being able to lift more which leads to being stronger. As long as the lift is done properly of course.

11-16-2011 , 09:29 PM

#758

-C-P-

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Well I certainly agree that the forum is ridiculous at times. Their optimism in that thread is almost certainly lol...maybe KONG and UTexas can do it but everybody else is SOL.

I don't think the "new" technique is anywhere near that extreme though. The "new" method seems like a TARP for beginners imo but I dunno, most good pressers use some layback/hip thrust anyway.

11-16-2011 , 09:55 PM

#759

JohnnyFondue

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You know when the goal setting is unrealistic when even I think it's lol

11-16-2011 , 11:38 PM

#760

gonnaenodaethat

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eat your veggies

11-16-2011 , 11:42 PM

#761

kidcolin

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Reading his excerpt, it doesn't look like anything that extreme. He stresses that the knees shouldn't bend and the lumbar shouldn't extend. http://startingstrength.com/articles...s_rippetoe.pdf

This is more in line with Wendler's notion of it being a "movement". If slightly more layback and hip action gets heavier loads overhead, I don't really see a problem with it.

11-17-2011 , 12:26 AM

#762

milesdyson

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Originally Posted by -C-P-

I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of those guys do it (like utexas).

i would be very surprised. but like you said in your next post, it's not him who deserves the hate.

11-17-2011 , 12:52 AM

#763

00Snitch

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Originally Posted by kidcolin

god damn rippletoes is hard to read... i feel like an ADD spastic trying to read his sh*t... can't focus for more than 30 seconds...

11-17-2011 , 01:21 AM

#764

DWarrior

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I think this has shop potential, just not sure how yet:

11-17-2011 , 01:35 AM

#765

Carl Sagan

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Shop the top face on this cat then switch to the third face when he turns.

Last edited by Carl Sagan; 11-17-2011 at 01:36 AM. Reason: i blows at the shop

11-17-2011 , 03:05 PM

#766

kickpushcoast

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the first part of the olympic press looks like something that would really help with upper body power and athletic movement in general, if i try those i will probably just do that part and keep the lockout like a normal press.

11-17-2011 , 07:33 PM

#767

The Yugoslavian

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Spoiler:

11-17-2011 , 08:12 PM

#768

milesdyson

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Originally Posted by kickpushcoast

this is how i've pressed forev. have always been afraid of the second layback. those dudes in old olympic videos scare me... but that technique is the real way to make the press a "press." it's like a standing incline bench at that point, with the abs doing a ridiculous amount of isometric work just keeping them from snapping backward-assani-style.

11-17-2011 , 08:29 PM

#769

JammyDodga

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Originally Posted by JammyDodga

Late goals I know...

Lose 5kg.
4 plate squat 3*5 (2.5kg short)
Don't have sex with my friends younger sister
Have bottom of face less wide than top of head.
don't miss a session. 4.5 per week.
Score 3 tries at rugby. (1 down)

Oops...

In other news, my squat is getting better and I've lost weight!

11-17-2011 , 08:32 PM

#770

KPowers

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Originally Posted by milesdyson

milesdylan can you look at these and let me know what you think

http://youtu.be/lpckQHlpmuI press

I was worried they were too leaned back but now I see all the cool kids are leaning back, but these still look more leaned back then when you 1rm'd 315.

I think a lot of it is balance?

11-17-2011 , 09:02 PM

#771

DWarrior

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I always feel like I'm leading back a bit on the press anyway. I ordered ss3 to check out what's up. Also curious about the power snatch part.

11-17-2011 , 09:55 PM

#772

milesdyson

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Originally Posted by KPowers

you're doing neither the hip pop at the start nor the second layback.

it does look like you have your knees permanently unlocked though, which is weird

11-17-2011 , 10:42 PM

#773

sayid_the_saviour

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Originally Posted by nuggetz87

good thing he works out at home because he would be kicked out of any gym just throwing plates on the floor like that. doesn't even re-rack his plates. dbag.

hes a little kid dont be so hard on him

11-18-2011 , 12:39 AM

#774

Evoken

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Originally Posted by 00Snitch

No idea how hard (can you 10x10 h&f chinup bros do it?)

Not even close. Pretty sure you gotta be able to do 1 wted chin with + .8-1.0x bodyweight.

11-18-2011 , 12:44 AM

#775

Evoken

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Originally Posted by 00Snitch

Haven't read the links yet... but why would they do that?

I don't know what the motivation was for doing that, but my press form naturally became like that with a double layback and I find it almost impossible to press weights relatively heavy weights without leaning back.

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