Thing is such a sham and I knew it from the start and still bought one cuz at the end of the day I'm just another lamb.

Depends on your definition of mobility. Strength is easily the most important element of fitness for olds. And my main point is that they aren't separate entities. You show me a geezer who can't get into a decent squat position, I'll show you a frail, weak individual. But if we spend a couple months progressing from BW squats to a high box, gradually lowering it until a full squat position, and then slowly adding weight. Maybe he can goblet squat a 25lb DB by the end of 3 months. Was that strength work or mobility work?

This is probably the most commendable thing Rip does, fwiw. He's run some pieces recently about training a 91 year old woman. She walks without a cane or walker now.

Strength is independence. Mobility requires strength.

Don't disagree here. I do think it's prudent for most to get some coaching. But I also think people are robust enough not to maim themselves should the forge ahead on their own. Obv if they do things poorly they may hurt themselves.
Orthogonal as in independent. I believe I used it correctly.

Fwiw I had my best PL results on TM. No idea how i was ever able to squat 5x5x315 but im pretty sure it happened

Is using a rumble roller on your back a big no no?

why is the RR bad

one thing I can't stand, and we do it a lot less now than a few years ago was just rando-dropping some controversial opinion, stating it as fact, and not giving anything in the slightest way of supporting information.

sometimes i miss kyleb, and then i remember him doing crap like that, and then im not sure

I shouldn't say the RR is bad. Just nothing special and way too costly.

In general I vastly prefer a normal roller, pvc, and lax balls. I just don't find the RR very beneficial. And in some instances, I find it hurts just for the sake of hurting, because it's causing an injury, not "breaking adhesions" or whatever.

No clue about use on the low back. I'll defer to McGill on that.

Sorry, herp derp reading comprehension on my part - I didn't realize you were tying that sentence back to the H&F myth argument from the prior sentence because I think the forum consensus is what you're describing.

Oh okay. I thought we were saying Rolling was dumb.

BB = Big Bald?

jdock I wouldn't say I ever got injured on SS. I had some nagging knee issues and still do (I basically gave up squatting), but before I did SS I would end up with pretty bad knee pain after hiking or any other "strenuous" walking activity. I'd be limping for a day or so afterward until I got back to being sedentary. Way more "injured" than anything I got on SS.

Overall it definitely was net positive as of today, even though I haven't kept up more than sporadically.

like KC said, it ain't bad but what you are mainly getting out of it is stretch reflex in your muscle fiber which feels real good but can make you fall into a false sense of security with regards to your mobility.

A number of days I would have a nagging sensation in my upper glute area due to my injury and would contemplate whetehr I should squat or not, then I'd roll the heck out of my glutes, would feel awesome, and then squat because of that. I could have really damaged myself but by chance I reaggravated my injury outside the gym in bumpy car ride. Now my goal is to learn the movement, not the lift.

and fwiw, I used to dumb down my symptoms using the roller but for more than the last month I have not used the roller and I have no nagging symptoms all because of changing my movement patterns

On the other hand, bands are fantastic. Just to give the example of hips again, there are various ways you can use them to isolate your glutes and dissociate lumbar motion from hip motion.


The one thing I will say about SS is that there is too much emphasize on increasing the weight fast. I know everyone wants the fastest progression but it's always better to master form than increase difficulty.

Miles sighting.

I saw it too.

My entire day today consisted of lifting weights, playing PLO and drinking whiskey.

Rough life

Orthogonal is even stronger than independent. So right on, bro.

I definitely regret buying a RR. PVC pipe is sooooooo much better. And nevermind the $60 price difference between the two.

curls at the poker table imo jfon

fair enough. But who knows, maybe if you had gotten into body building type routines instead of powerlifting you would still be in tHe iron game and even healthier, or at the least still lifting.

At the least you would have probably decided to cut to around 200 pounds instead of bulking up to 260, and that all by itself would have probably been a big net positive on your knee health.

I think all of the HARD TRUTHS being posted ITT the last few months are at least in part to blame for the decaying LC traffic over the last six months or so. I remember months gone by where there'd be 2K posts by now, 300 of which were by fakebusto and 100 of which were photo collages of all the chicks BTM had banged. Now it's a barren wasteland. RIP.

Before SS my only experience in lifting was wannabe BB style stuff. Never squatting or deadlifting, and plenty of arm isolation and machine use.

SS and logging here is the reason I have a rack in my garage and still at least work out sporadically. Btw I did skull crushers last night.

Monte,

Feel free to post something interesting to regenerate forum participation. I promise not to derail your convo with anything unpalatable that will drive everyone away.

I'm on board with this.

Can't, the Eagles' recent moves have rendered me comatose. I may come out of it once the draft pick compensation is finally definitively reported.

Monte, how does it feel to cheer for a team with a racist head coach #hottake

aiott,

I'm not really sure. Maybe QB has an evolutionary biology related explanation that can help me make sense of my conflicted feelings on the matter?

Monte,

Have faith in the plan. Around the solid nucleus of Bradford, Cooper an Sproles I think the team rebuild will be fast and painless.