I was asking a question, not giving advice . . . he stated he was lifting "optimally", and I was trying to figure out what he meant.

No offense taken, by the way. I feel like I've made a fair bit of progress, both aesthetically and strengthwise, since my log started, but disagreement on that matter is fine. I'll put a number of my upper body lifts up against the majority of the forum, and I'd wager that our squats wouldn't be as far apart without you deciding to take the needle. Any time you want to implicitly discredit a valid question by targeting who you perceive to be the weakest person from the group asking the question, I encourage you to seek me out again.

I mean, I'm no Arnold, but...sup?

Anyway, as Monte said, no need to get so defensive over people asking reasonable questions.

I'm all for asking reasonable questions, I just feel like a lot of the posters here are just tagging along and trying to make EV bad for what he's doing. His quote saying "I'm just lifting optimally" is obviously silly. Equally silly as saying lockouts are optimal.

My only point posting what I posted was to point out that none of us here really have achieved a physique EV is striving for (I agree you look good naked Busto but I wouldn't put you on a bodybuilder stage), and so it makes no sense for us to try and shove EV into the little 2p2 box that we all like so much and believe it to be the truth and the light, despite of having produced only a handful of strong guys and pretty much 0 goodlooking guys. All the while while the entire bodybuilder world is probably fine with what EV is doing, and the majority of those guys looking better than us, naked.

So really, I feel like we should stop neckbearding about lockouts, cause it's very unlikely it's going to magically change EV's physique. And we already know he's just doing it because he's always been doing it without really knowing why.

I think you are missing an important point. EVs strategy is not working to achieve his stated goals. So when he says he's doing something because it's optimal, it's natural for people who know more than him and/or have achieved results in line with his goals to ask him to explain what he means when he defends his choice as optimal. It's unreasonable to suggest the only people who can engage him in a dialogue are those who are stage ready.

I'll admit that I might not be clear on EV's current goals. If he wants to look the same and produce strength gains within partial ROM lifts, I can't really argue that he's not achieving those things.

You're right it's unreasonable of me to suggest we can't open up a constructive dialogue, that's true.

I do believe though that, let's say we had a number of established professional bodybuilders here, the ROM would very likely be at the very bottom of the list of reasons why EV is not capable of making gains. Probably not even worth discussing. But for some reason us internet heroes keep going back referring to it as one of the culprits for why stuff is not working out for him.

New fistfight brewing


Montecore -220
Syndrom +180

Good point, but it's also the easiest one to fix. Doing steroids research takes a long time, possibly a bit longer for EV... because he' so careful and diligent, of course. Fixing ROM takes about 5 seconds.

Of course my statement of lifting optimally was a silly one. It was just to troll the redic responses posted over and over and over and over and over. My current short term goals is to get down to 168 lbs gradually while losing as little strength as possible.

1/26/17
170.8 lbs

- Side note first two weeks after training the team has been created. 9 out of 13 ppl let go, I survived. Got some big sales coming up close to 175k if they go thru it will look pretty good.

DB standing curls
30x12 x3

Spider curls
50x10 x4

Rope pushdowns
50x12 x3

French press
60x10
60x8
60x10 x2

One arm extensions
15x15
20x10 x3

ah the brutal world of supplement sales?

Anyway, this guy is 5'9-10ish 179lbs on stage.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BOkXqmEB...franklin&hl=en

He has a video of him squatting 405x8 to not quite atg depth and db pressing 150s for a few full ROM reps. 179lbs truly ripped ready for stage is a very very strong guy at 5'9.


I think this kind of physique is achievable with a basic 350 tren 350 test prop per week and orals/masteron/stimulants in and out kind of cycle, no gh or fancystuff.


I remember he came by my gym for a workout when I still lived in AZ. He just ****ing crushed me in every bodypart except back. He walks around between 190-200 offseason.

That guy is too jacked. Too many facking aliens.

The perfect physique is jeff seid or timbahwolf. What do you stack for that? No facking aliens, my ex complained about vascularity.

Exact same drugs but eat more and do less cardio for Jeff. Jeff definitely takes a lot of time cruising throughout the year and there's a huge difference between his stage look at walking around the music festival look, which is probably good/healthy in the long run. Timbahwolf idk... probably on less stuff.

Bringing it back. Back to the old days. Top left DMAA for the win!

I bought this at local Suppz store about a month ago. Cute brunette showing me the store convinced me cause I'm a single lonely dork.

Relative to caffeine, I feel it way faster. But I don't think it really gets me that jazzed. I feel bouncy and excitable and definitely feel like theres more WIM for the first hour or so. I guess I had higher expectations.

That's one scoop though....

1/29/17
170.6 lbs

- Week 3 and jammed legs/DL into one day. Not the smartest but gotta do it due to this week. Anyways 345 for DL was heavy, 3rd rep was bad as u can see below at vid. Need to adjust numbers.

FS
95x5
*115x5
*135x3
*150x7
160x5
135x10 x2

DL
135x5
225x3
*275x5
*315x3
*345x3

Hack squat
140x12 x3

is that steroids?

No, its basically a type of meth.

Joking Not Joking

N1 are you trying to inquire whether or not I need to change my YouTube name? Nope, never.

1/31/17
170.6 lbs

- Bench 255x2 recorded. Told the guy I didn't need lift just make sure bar doesn't fall on me. Question is, did he help me lift it? In any case I only did 2 reps so numbers remain the same anyways.

BB bench
45x35
95x10
135x5
185x5
*205x5
*225x3
240x1
*255x2 (spotter need to see if approved by the fatties here or not)
225x5
225x4

Incline DB press
75x10
85x8
85x6
85x5+f

Cable cross overs super set w/ push-ups
25x10/ x10
30x8/ x10 x2

DB pullovers
65x12
70x8

[youtube]1/31/17
170.6 lbs

- Bench 255x2 recorded. Told the guy I didn't need lift just make sure bar doesn't fall on me. Question is, did he help me lift it? In any case I only did 2 reps so numbers remain the same anyways.

BB bench
45x35
95x10
135x5
185x5
*205x5
*225x3
240x1
*255x2 (spotter need to see if approved by the fatties here or not)
225x5
225x4

Incline DB press
75x10
85x8
85x6
85x5+f

Cable cross overs super set w/ push-ups
25x10/ x10
30x8/ x10 x2

DB pullovers
65x12
70x8

Eh. Technically he did "help", if infinitesimally, but I'm relatively certain you'd have gotten it alone, so w/e. I tend to count those as made attempts while cursing whoever spotted silently and resolving never to ask them again.

Yeah ****ing obnoxious

Preventing movement down is still an assist, albeit slightly less than an actual pull.

2/1/17
170.0 lbs

Military press
45x5
95x5 x2 (feeling sore)
*125x5
*145x3
*160x3
135x5 x3

BB shrugs
225x12
275x8 x2 (straps, geared up)

Upright rows
90x12
110x10 x3 (PR)

Standing DB press
40x10
45x8 x2

Lateral raises
35x10 x3

Knee raises
10 x3