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01-05-2023 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
That HRV is horrible for someone so young. But not just that, the zigzag is caused by your drinking and its the zigzag that is problem.

Still killing yourself. Don't worry others around here doing it also, they just do it more secretly than you or are in denial.

They still studying all this heart rate variability crap, mine is low also but I am also pushing 50 and mine doesnt zig zag like yours. But one thing for sure, when alcohol basically sends your nervous system to fight or flight mode til it recovers, it can only mean one thing. You must be feeding it poison.

We actually need an updated scientific research on the effects of alcohol. Thremp gave us a nice one a while back that is so outdated and debunked that I been thinking of doing the new one.

It's not good guys, it's pretty damn hard to defend even 1 drink a day. Which whatever it's no big deal, but if we all understand it's straight up poison then maybe we will do a little less of it or pass on that facking nasty beer they have on tap at that particular bar or realize cheap bourbon with a mixer is disgusting in taste and for your health. That's the nut low, drinking cheap nasty alcohol by yourself. I raise my hand, occasionally guilty. I like these fruit slush beers by my house that went viral across the state.

Yep. Huberman also has a 3+ hour podcast essentially coming to this conclusion (MLYLT would never watch this, she is too donk). Alcohol is way worse for you than people realize but it's not culturally stigmatized and is in fact celebrated. I pretty much quit and now only drink during NYE and special occasions like weddings. Between 500mg/wk test indefinitely or 1 drink a day indefinitely obviously I'd pick the first one (hard to say which one is worse for health ceteris paribus, but it's not ceteris paribus because guys on test are going to take on a ton of offsetting healthy habits that drinkers probably won't on average)
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01-06-2023 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by loco
That HRV is horrible for someone so young. But not just that, the zigzag is caused by your drinking and its the zigzag that is problem.
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You got me curious so I went back to when I first started getting HRV readings in July 2021 and looked at the data to date.
My max HRV has decreased by 3/4 from before drinking untill now. (The last three months has been the greatest decline.)
The "zigzag" has also decreased and there is half the variation now than before drinking. The lows are still the same, but I'm not getting any highs now.
I have also been glued to the couch,other than volleyball on Wensdays, for 2months straight.

I also seperated the readings out 3 months at a time. Other than magnitudes, the "zigzags" patterns were almost damn near identical until the last three months.
I'm sure this has something to do with monthly horomone fluctuations.

Going to cut the drinking way back, but also significantly increase breathing exercises to see what changes.
When I started doing the breathing meditations I noticed a huge difference mentally, with stress, mood swings, and eating. Just got out of the habbit and haven't done it for a while.
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01-06-2023 , 09:26 AM
I assumed there was zigzags because sometimes you don't drink. But if you drink everyday then there are no zigzags and just rock bottom HRV.

I travel a lot, that lowers it. And then when I go on vacation (which is frequent) I drink.

They still don't really understand it. The main thing is you have baseline reading when everything is good and that number is important (and dont compare that to anybody, sort of like resting heart rate) and I don't think crashing it everyday with alcohol is positive.

It also picks off Covid and other sicknesses. That's pretty interesting. Doubt it picks off hormone fluctuation and periods but don't know.

Honestly I don't keep much track of it. I always feel good and if it's low, I say fack it and still workout maybe it will make me more resilient. But since people die young from alcohol, it looks like daily alcohol is not making you more resilient.

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01-06-2023 , 04:38 PM
Thur 1/5 Food Log:
The spike in glucose was from the spicy tuna roll.

So I decided to play tournaments Sat-Mon and got snacks ready:
protein shakes, hummus, bell peppers, Mozzarella+pepperoni, cheese+pretzels, bananas.
I'll probably end up getting a couple of burgers or grilled chicken sandwhiches and keep pizza/fried chicken to only one meal over the weekend.
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01-06-2023 , 06:27 PM
If better health is your goal, drinking is doing zero for your goal.
If good sleep is your goal, drinking is doing zero for your goal.
If a bikini bod is your goal, drinking is doing zero for your goal.
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01-11-2023 , 11:50 PM
Yep.

Poker was awefull. On Firday night I had about 8oz of alcohol (burbon and gin). My face, neck, and chest starting getting really flushed and looked like I had hives right before I passed out. I then woke up in the middle of the night in the worst pain of my life. I thought I had appendicitis and was trying to figure out how to get to the hospital. I don't have health insurance for another month and didn't want to pay an ambulance or hospital bill so waited it out; the pain subsided after an hour. But, I had residual pain all weekend and felt just completely out of it.

Went for complete blood work today and if anything is off I'll go see a doctor before my insurance kicks in. In the mean time I'm cutting alcohol.
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01-11-2023 , 11:52 PM
11/6-11/11 Food Logs:

Missed logging Sunday

Did have M&Ms and chips, but definitely got my steps in and kept the cals low.
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01-14-2023 , 12:10 AM
There is absolutely no point in logging if you don't put all the foods into the log. No M&Ms and no chips in the log, which makes the calories and the macros wrong, which makes your conclusion that you didn't eat over your allotted calories wrong.

I would say that logging without putting every single bite of food in it is quite a bit worse than not logging at all. Bad data is far worse than no data. At least if you don't log, you aren't lying to yourself and won't come to silly conclusions based on the bad data.

You've got to be realistic about these things. It doesn't matter if "logging is a good thing" if you aren't well-suited to logging. At some point, you've got to stop putting thought and effort into things that don't work for you.

Of course, you did get a random on the internet (me) to write at you, so if that is your goal, well done.
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01-14-2023 , 07:18 AM
Reading that A1 Sauce on Friday is just disappointing.
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01-14-2023 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
There is absolutely no point in logging if you don't put all the foods into the log. No M&Ms and no chips in the log, which makes the calories and the macros wrong, which makes your conclusion that you didn't eat over your allotted calories wrong.

I would say that logging without putting every single bite of food in it is quite a bit worse than not logging at all. Bad data is far worse than no data. At least if you don't log, you aren't lying to yourself and won't come to silly conclusions based on the bad data.

You've got to be realistic about these things. It doesn't matter if "logging is a good thing" if you aren't well-suited to logging. At some point, you've got to stop putting thought and effort into things that don't work for you.

Of course, you did get a random on the internet (me) to write at you, so if that is your goal, well done.
Right, which also makes one question the veracity of the entries that do make it into the log.

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Reading that A1 Sauce on Friday is just disappointing.
Yeah, should ditch the A1 and the steak.
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01-14-2023 , 06:46 PM
I had logged the M&Ms. I think the chips were Sunday in which I didn't log the entire day.

My mother had a heart attack. She is fine now and was just released from the hospital.

Will get back to daily logging when I get back home.

Back to work on Monday after being off for 2 months

What's wrong with the A1?
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01-14-2023 , 09:31 PM
It is gross. And a steak you need A1 on, is likely gross as well.
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01-14-2023 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NotThremp
It is gross. And a steak you need A1 on, is likely gross as well.
A1 is less gross than any cut of steak, regardless of its preparation.
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01-15-2023 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
A1 is less gross than any cut of steak, regardless of its preparation.
So you seem to lack self-awareness. You are perceived as pontificating on the dietary equivalent of shoving a giant spiked dildo into your own ass in lieu of having sex with an attractive living person.

Also, everyone knows you're lying. You didn't eat 7lbs of anything at any meal. Hopefully we can fast forward just to the ending where you don't derail threads to ramble about diets you stopped due to being unlivable.
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01-15-2023 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NotThremp
So you seem to lack self-awareness. You are perceived as pontificating on the dietary equivalent of shoving a giant spiked dildo into your own ass in lieu of having sex with an attractive living person.
Ah, well, different folks, different strokes.

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Also, everyone knows you're lying. You didn't eat 7lbs of anything at any meal. Hopefully we can fast forward just to the ending where you don't derail threads to ramble about diets you stopped due to being unlivable.
Lol. 7 pounds of vegetables is around 1000 calories. But yeah, keep pumping that charred muscle into your gullet and stay oblivious while derailing the thread about someone liking A1 instead.
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01-16-2023 , 01:21 AM
Those steaks were a little gross and needed the A1, they were incredibly thin and I burnt them. I need to get back to the steak thread to remember how to cook em good, but those delicious pics make me want to eat a whole cow.

Just seeing LoL posting got me inspired to cook some Tofu meals for my 1st week of work prep meals.
Cooked Tofu, spaghetti squash, white beans, mushrooms, onions, and garlic to make two different combos of mush: Asain and Itialian.
They don't look pretty, but are damn good.

This was only my third time cooking Tofu and it was a mess. I didn't do the weighted thing to get the moisture out and it stuck to the pan and crumbled despite copious amounts of olive oil being added to the pan.
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01-16-2023 , 01:28 AM
Went grocery shopping today and my meals for the week will be Tofu mush, berry+spinach smoothies, Sardines, tuna, salmon, chicken, eggs, and Muscles&Clams because my kid loves them.

Ooh, I've got some crawfish tails too!

I made the drive to my new workplace to scope it out and there is an Anytime Fitness around the corner. I'll see how traffic is and what my hours/lunch will be to get a plan together for lifting weights.
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01-16-2023 , 04:30 AM
Did you buy Extra Firm? Maybe you just lack the genetic composition to make tofu without mauling it? Asian people toss silken tofu in a wok without any issue.
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01-16-2023 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime

Just seeing LoL posting got me inspired to cook some Tofu meals for my 1st week of work prep meals.
Cooked Tofu, spaghetti squash, white beans, mushrooms, onions, and garlic to make two different combos of mush: Asain and Itialian.
They don't look pretty, but are damn good.

Don't say I inspired you to make that, lol. You inspired me to reconsider my opinion on using meal prep services j/k.

If you don't press tofu it will make your stuff watery and not absorb the flavor of the dish. Tofu is neutral in flavor. If you press the water out it will absorb the flavor of the dish and give the tofu taste.

Speaking of spaghetti squash, remember this spaghetti squash from the veg thread?




Much to Thremp's dubiety, that weighed around 4 pounds and constituted a portion of my lunch.
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01-16-2023 , 10:45 AM
You people pressing tofu are ****ing freaks and I wish the worst upon you all.

Also, that last LoL post was lowkey racist.
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01-16-2023 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by NotThremp
You people pressing tofu are ****ing freaks and I wish the worst upon you all.
Lol. I haven't eaten tofu in many years, but the point is to press it and have the water be reabsorbed with the marinade you're cooking with. Try it sometime and then learn once again that you have a habit of popping off at mouth without knowing what you're talking about.

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Also, that last LoL post was lowkey racist.
Wtf was racist in my post? Perhaps you read your post about Asians and forgot you were the one who wrote it?
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01-16-2023 , 02:31 PM
White people subsume a culture that has been making a food for thousands of years then explain how to make it to them.

This is about as insane as the "I ate 7lbs of apples in one sitting" larp.
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01-16-2023 , 04:13 PM
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White people subsume a culture that has been making a food for thousands of years then explain how to make it to them.
Is MLYLT Asian? Are you Asian? Am I white? What exactly are you suggesting? Forums are so difficult these days...

As far as I know, in Asia, soft tofu is not pressed and firm tofu is pressed depending on the dish, but I could certainly be wrong about that.

But is it racist when people bastardize foreign dishes? Is it racist when Americans use a fork to eat pizza or put cheese inside the dough?

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This is about as insane as the "I ate 7lbs of apples in one sitting" larp.
What is insane about it? It's like 1500 calories. What do you think a raw (at the time), zero-processed pure vegetarian that needs to consume several thousands of calories per day gets to eat?
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01-16-2023 , 08:40 PM
Those pics of food look vomitacular.
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01-16-2023 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gorvnice
A disturbing trend with you and booze has started to overtake the thread recently. You've said drinking issues run in your family and mentioned you have been turning more and more to alcohol.

Also, it occurs to me that you may have started drinking as a self-destructive act now that overeating has been taken from you.

Not trying to bring you down--this is honest feedback. I feel you seem to be at a crossroads, and if you're not careful you will blunder into a much worse place than you were at pre-surgery...
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