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03-04-2012 , 10:14 PM
She is actually very heavy on ground technique because of her mother. Her mom blew out her knees, and focused on grabbed submissions asap when it hit the ground. She had Rhonda drilling submissions and top game stuff since she was like 10 or something crazy. It all comes down to the style, there was a video of a gold medalist hanging with Maia on the ground in No gi not to long ago, but some guys are just worthless there but sharper on the feet. I posted the video of the girl in my club collar choking a girl in 9 seconds at a world level event and people looked shocked.
03-04-2012 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
You can't just toss something like this out. The camp she comes out of has very strong influences from Sambo, catch, bjj, and wrestling. Most of her ground ability is almost certainly not from pure Judo.



This would be a mistake imo. Many high level judoka, even olympic level, would get steamrolled against a pure bjj guy on the ground. Like by a purple belt. It's not even really close.
It came from her mouth. Eddie asked here when she started training submissions etc, who taught her bjj. She said up until not long ago she learnt every single technique from Judo, has never done BJJ. Her coach Gokor is obviously Euro based Judo has is probably heavily influenced by Sambo though you are right, and she trains with lots of studs in many styles now. But believable it or not she entered into most of this with almost only Judo at the time.
03-04-2012 , 10:20 PM
Traz you are right for the most part though, but there are some Judo sickos out there who are surprisingly well versed on the ground.



Guy is Brazilian, but still hes a 2 time Olympic medalist. Pretty crazy.
03-04-2012 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by caught_clean
It came from her mouth. Eddie asked here when she started training submissions etc, who taught her bjj. She said up until not long ago she learnt every single technique from Judo, has never done BJJ. Her coach Gokor is obviously Euro based Judo has is probably heavily influenced by Sambo though you are right, and she trains with lots of studs in many styles now. But believable it or not she entered into most of this with almost only Judo at the time.
Yes, from Hayastan Judo, which isn't pure Judo. That's the whole point. She is very good at grappling because she's been exposed to many different aspects from a young age. That is NOT Judo in the typical sense and it would be a mistake to attribute that to Judo. Of course she's going to give Judo all the credit though, that's the main style of the gym she comes from. Doesn't make it true.

Also the guy you posted above has trained BJJ and is quite good at it .

In the end we're all saying the same thing so I'm just gonna drop it, but to think her ground game is actually due to her Judo is very wrong imo and at the very least highly debatable.
03-04-2012 , 10:20 PM
I'm just going to defer to c_c now.
03-04-2012 , 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by traz
Yes, from Hayastan Judo, which isn't pure Judo. That's the whole point. She is very good at grappling because she's been exposed to many different aspects from a young age. That is NOT Judo in the typical sense and it would be a mistake to attribute that to Judo. Of course she's going to give Judo all the credit though, that's the main style of the gym she comes from. Doesn't make it true.

Also the guy you posted above has trained BJJ and is quite good at it .

In the end we're all saying the same thing so I'm just gonna drop it, but to think her ground game is actually due to her Judo is very wrong imo and at the very least highly debatable.
Cmon man. She went to Judo classes, and learnt her ground skills from them. They weren't catch wrestling, BJJ, or anything. Just European Judo and she preferred to work a lot of Newaza. I am saying you are mostly right but as a BJJ guy I can even admit most ground work started in Judo first, BJJ just refined the hell out of it.
03-04-2012 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by caught_clean
Cmon man. She went to Judo classes, and learnt her ground skills from them. They weren't catch wrestling, BJJ, or anything. Just European Judo and she preferred to work a lot of Newaza. I am saying you are mostly right but as a BJJ guy I can even admit most ground work started in Judo first, BJJ just refined the hell out of it.
Well of course. Every single bjj technique is in Judo. That's not the point. The point is working on the ground game to the extent she did is not a Judo trait UNLESS you are cross training, such as at the Hayastan gym. So yes, her "techniques" are from Judo, as is every other bjj players. But she didn't get good at it because of Judo, she got good at it because she trains like other grapplers.
03-04-2012 , 10:26 PM
caught clean is actually that 13 yr old female judo top 10 he's always talking about. He just wants to be treated fairly on the internet, so he makes up all this crap about trt... typical girl behavior
03-04-2012 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Chocula
caught clean is actually that 13 yr old female judo top 10 he's always talking about. He just wants to be treated fairly on the internet, so he makes up all this crap about trt... typical girl behavior
15 years old!



I actually thought about it, and females are legit crazy. Look at how many of them are willing to let them arm get snapped to win, and how they are still enemies after fighting. Jesus even Nick Diaz makes peace after his fights (mostly).
03-04-2012 , 10:50 PM
Yeah well Miesha did say Ronda should be fined for headbutting. That's not something you can just forgot about and move on.
03-04-2012 , 10:54 PM
Women be crazy.

The beating that one chick (Jan Finney?) took at the hands of Cyborg was just ridiculous, and the fact that women tend to be so emotional makes it far less likely they're willing to let bygones be bygones and make peace after the fight like seemingly all male fighters do.

I kinda hope women's MMA really takes off, but I think it depends on whether they can attract the uber athletes like Rousey and Cyborg who are capable of putting on really entertaining fights.
03-04-2012 , 11:33 PM
Jon Jones learned from YouTube.
03-04-2012 , 11:35 PM
lets see neonazi guy vs gay pornstar
03-04-2012 , 11:43 PM
I never thought I would see the word Judo so often in this thread.

Ronda ftw!
03-05-2012 , 12:01 AM
i heard an interview with rousey where she was talking about how difficult it was for her and her mother to win judo matches unless they got submissions. she said that the judges were basically rigging the matches against american women so her mother switched to a style where she would go for quick armbars on the ground to get a victory. she learned her take down and arm bar technique playing judo and now translates that to mma.
03-05-2012 , 12:33 AM
Oh man AJ vs wesrwood gold
03-05-2012 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyPatriot
The Brock Lesnar comparison is far more apt. Jones is a freakish athlete with high-level skill. Brock is a freakish athlete with high-level skill in one discipline, but was able to steamroll a weak division. Ronda fits more with the second description.
Ronda is like Brock Lesnar showing up at UFC 15.
03-05-2012 , 01:33 AM
Rousey post fight press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P21gq...layer_embedded
03-05-2012 , 02:00 AM
She seemed pretty likeable there...hopefully she can drastically improve her striking.


The Lesnar analogy is apt. Definitely world beater in one aspect and far from that in others.
03-05-2012 , 04:39 AM
there is one hot chick and suddenly everyone cares about wamma.lol
03-05-2012 , 04:43 AM
Not to beat a dead horse, but another strange fact about the MM vs Ian Mccall **** storm. The official score cards say one draw, 2 x 29-28 for MM for the majority decision, which was apparently transcribed wrong BUT Buffer read it as 29-28 Mccall, and 2 x 29-28 for MM for the SPLIT. So not only was it apparently transcribed wrong, but buffer was handed even different results? Unless he also read it wrong, that's a lot of coincidences.
03-05-2012 , 04:47 AM
beating your horse meat

Spoiler:
03-05-2012 , 04:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by caught_clean
Not to beat a dead horse, but another strange fact about the MM vs Ian Mccall **** storm. The official score cards say one draw, 2 x 29-28 for MM for the majority decision, which was apparently transcribed wrong BUT Buffer read it as 29-28 Mccall, and 2 x 29-28 for MM for the SPLIT. So not only was it apparently transcribed wrong, but buffer was handed even different results? Unless he also read it wrong, that's a lot of coincidences.
he read it wrong
03-05-2012 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fnx99
he read it wrong
Most likely but that's a lot of **** ups. Not one card said a Judge gave Mccall the nod.
03-05-2012 , 05:24 AM
Cc,

Don't forget each judge card had to be recopyed on to the final card, and each judges card says at the bottom the score and then the winner. So the executive who copied it wrong also had to fail to notice the result written at the bottom of the card (29-29 draw) and then write a new one (29-28 Johnston) when transcribing to the final card.

      
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