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02-22-2012 , 07:27 PM
02-22-2012 , 07:30 PM


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Tough choice
02-22-2012 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyDiggs
He also fought two fights with two teeth still lodged in his foot:
Jesus christ I just looked at his wiki and he eye gouged a dude in vale tudo and the guy lost sight in one eye.
02-22-2012 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyPatriot
If you could bring one part of Pride into the UFC's show on Saturday, what would it be?



from russsssssssssiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa with love .
02-22-2012 , 08:10 PM
"If the match reaches its time limit then the outcome of the bout is determined by the three judges. The fight is scored in its entirety and not round-by-round."
02-22-2012 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pageh656
"If the match reaches its time limit then the outcome of the bout is determined by the three judges. The fight is scored in its entirety and not round-by-round."
That sounds good but it doesn't help if the judges are incompetent.
02-22-2012 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
Amateur wrestling =/= MMA.


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Originally Posted by DarkOne
Don't they do that in hockey?
No idea what they do in ice stick other than lose teeth.

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Originally Posted by MikeyPatriot
If you could bring one part of Pride into the UFC's show on Saturday, what would it be?
The general epicnes of it (It's production.) Opening ceremony, entrances, pride lady, confetti falling from the rafters when Frankie obliterates Bendo etc...
02-22-2012 , 10:07 PM
The biggest hurdle with getting UFC fighters in the Olympics would be injuries/risk, not seasons.
02-22-2012 , 10:10 PM
i think olympics would be +Ev personally if there was some reasonable execution (although it seems really ****ing hard at first thought), it'd just have to be like one fight a week for 3 weeks or something, maybe 2-3 ppl per weight class with random draws and best overall record.

probably really hard to do, but jesus the exposure! best way to grow a sport is ****ing show it to everyone on primetime.
02-22-2012 , 11:24 PM
could just have ams fight.

with a little backstory it'd be fine. it's not like too many olympians are household names before stepping out on the big stage.....right?
02-23-2012 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by C-Viggity
Was talking with a friend about how awesome MMA in Olympics or a MMA World Cup would be

Imagine HW:

Mir (USA)
Velasquez (Mexico)
Dos Santos (Brazil)
Overeem (England)

etc etc

What countries would put out the best lineups other than the obvious (USA, Brazil)
two of your guys are competing for the wrong countries imo

going roughly by fightmatrix rankings*

HW:
Gold - Brazil (JDS)
Silver - Netherlands (Overeem)
Bronze - USA - (Cain)

LHW:
Gold - USA (Jones)
Silver - Brazil (Shogun)
Bronze - Sweden (Gustaffson)

MW:
Gold - Brazil (Silva)
Silver - USA (Sonnen)
Bronze - Japan (Okami)

WW:
Gold - Canada (GSP)
Silver - USA (Condit)
Bronze - Denmark (Kampmann)

LW:
Gold - USA (Edgar)
Silver - Japan (Aoki)
Bronze - Brazil (Tibau)

FW:
Gold - Brazil (Aldo)
Silver - USA (Mendes)
Bronze - Japan (Hioti)

BW:
Gold - USA (Cruz)
Silver - Brazil (Fernandes)
Bronze - Japan (Mizugaki)

Final Medal Count:
USA - 7
Brazil - 6
Japan - 4
Canada, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands - 1

"Points" (3,2,1):
USA - 14
Brazil - 14
Japan - 5
Canada - 3
Netherlands - 2
Sweden - 1
Denmark - 1

*Ignored Cuba for hector lombard at MW because I think he defected from them? He's Cuban-Australian now, according to wiki. Same with alexis vila at BW, I know he defected. At FW I ignored Florian, Kawajiri and Curran who all have 3 or less FW fights but are ranked highly by fightmetric and went with personal picks.
02-23-2012 , 12:37 AM
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LHW:
Gold - USA (Jones)
Silver - Brazil (Shogun)
Bronze - Sweden (Gustaffson)
wat
02-23-2012 , 12:45 AM
its a bad idea because its impossible to have a guy really fight more than once at this level, stuff like rumble in the rock are really viable anymore. there is also no way the olympics even allows giving out medals for such little actual competition, their goal isn't really that to make a specticale out of things.
02-23-2012 , 01:27 AM
question, nutsflopper?

Jones gold is obvious. Shogun is the best non-american LHW. Gustaffson is the best non-american and non-brazilian LHW.
02-23-2012 , 01:28 AM
for the record, I'd much rather see BJJ become an olympic sport than MMA. MMA is just not feasible, but BJJ is incredibly feasible.
02-23-2012 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_
*Ignored Cuba for hector lombard at MW because I think he defected from them? He's Cuban-Australian now, according to wiki.
Yeah he wouldn't compete for Cuba.

If mma ever was turned into an olympic sport however i think Cuba would be a major factor and possibly even dominate (especially if it was "amateur-mma" with all the ufc stars excluded).
They're already crazy good wrestlers and boxers, and they would find a way to build an awesome (but inhuman) program for MMA too.

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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_
for the record, I'd much rather see BJJ become an olympic sport than MMA. MMA is just not feasible, but BJJ is incredibly feasible.
Yep, mma will not become an olympic sport under the next 100s of years if ever.
BJJ probably has a decent shot if they could get in as a demonstration sport for 2016 (no idea if it's even working towards that).

Last edited by kingofcool; 02-23-2012 at 02:20 AM. Reason: 2016 obv not 2014
02-23-2012 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by C-Viggity
Was talking with a friend about how awesome MMA in Olympics or a MMA World Cup would be

Imagine HW:

Mir (USA)
Velasquez (Mexico)
Dos Santos (Brazil)
Overeem (England)

etc etc

What countries would put out the best lineups other than the obvious (USA, Brazil)
I was thinking about this and I don't think elbows could ever be legitimized at the Olympic level, at least in the foreseeable future. Not sure about grounded knees or knees/muay thai clinch in general. Certainly the fact that the biggest organizations have certain sets of rules and a unified set of rules should be viewed as important in determining the sport's rules on the Olympic level, and I don't know precedent in this type of case. Assuming that the Olympic committee will side with these rules might be optimistic though. We definitely won't be seeing foot stomps

Taekwando, boxing, Judo are the current Olympic combat sports. Then there's freestyle wrestling and greco. BJJ would seemingly be reasonable, but as is Judo already incorporates ground fighting, albeit with a time limit and a gi. Punching with gloves to the face is legal in boxing, kicks to the head are legal in taekwando. All the combat sports are done as a single elimination tournament. BJJ should be next up before mma in all likelihood. Crazy potential
02-23-2012 , 02:13 AM
It's too bad MMA isn't an Olympic sport because it would be nice to see Overeem fight in front of his home country this summer.
02-23-2012 , 02:30 AM
lol
02-23-2012 , 02:43 AM
Not sure whats funnier.

C-viggity listing Overeem representing England or Cain representing Mexico.

Does this mean Tito will also represent Mexico, Kongo will represent Africa, and Frankie Edgar will represent Italy, and Nick Diaz will be representing Amsterdam?
02-23-2012 , 02:46 AM
Overeem would probably be eligible to compete for England if he has citizenship.
02-23-2012 , 02:58 AM
But why would he? So weird ufc "market" him as a uk fighter. Does it happen with anyone else?

Lennox Lewis did compete for Canada though so who the hell knows.

Cain would probably compete for Mexico if given a chance. Viva la raza!

Kongo would represent Congo, racist.
02-23-2012 , 03:03 AM
Not sure what you're talking about re: the UFC marketing Overeem as a British fighter. He IS a British fighter.
02-23-2012 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_
question, nutsflopper?

Jones gold is obvious. Shogun is the best non-american LHW. Gustaffson is the best non-american and non-brazilian LHW.
Just thought u were going by fightmatrix rankings, where Mousasi would be 3. If it's a personal ranking, I don't see how you think Gustafsson is better or more proven.
02-23-2012 , 03:11 AM
Alexander would beat Mousasi.
Mousasi is more proven but it's not like his resumé at 205 is superb.

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Originally Posted by MikeyPatriot
Not sure what you're talking about re: the UFC marketing Overeem as a British fighter. He IS a British fighter.
Sometimes i forget. Will not happen again.

      
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