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10-11-2012 , 06:43 PM

#626

Bremen

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Thats good now. With the new patch every single rare is essentially lvl 63 (only thing that doesn't roll lvl 63 is the base armor) and the base legendary drop rate is doubled. imo gear is going to devalue very quickly, and lvl 62 max rolls just won't be good enough

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10-11-2012 , 07:19 PM

#627

Shoe Lace

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And how many of those i63 rares are going to be rolled as 6 properties with values above the i62 cap? The answer to that is almost none. It will be good in 1.0.5 too.

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10-11-2012 , 07:21 PM

#628

brrrrr

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Originally Posted by isplashcranberrys

Finally got to inferno with my WD. I have a feeling this is going to end badly.

brrrrr#1191 if you want to play some A1

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10-11-2012 , 07:36 PM

#629

Bremen

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Originally Posted by Shoe Lace

And how many of those i63 rares are going to be rolled as 6 properties with values above the i62 cap? The answer to that is almost none. It will be good in 1.0.5 too.

Its what, 10% of rares are 6 prop (I forget exactly). You still have the problem that not all crafted items roll anywhere near the cap. A perfectly rolled crafted item will ldo still be worth something, but it will be less than before which could very easily make EV negative.

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10-11-2012 , 07:48 PM

#630

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I dunno if it's 10%. It will depend on your MF because x property rares are just tiers of loot.

You only might get 2-3x 6 property rares in a full bag of items. Getting 6 affixes is not easy, especially not when you want them for a specific item type (let's say you're trying to upgrade your belt or something).

If you think crafting is trash and you still have those 6 prop recipes I'd be interested in buying them for really cheap since you think it's -EV to craft as long as they are armor recipes.

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10-11-2012 , 08:51 PM

#631

Bremen

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Originally Posted by Shoe Lace

I dunno if it's 10%. It will depend on your MF because x property rares are just tiers of loot.

MF also increases the number of 4 prop rares so the ratio of 6 to 4 stays pretty constant. (at least for values of 300MF or lower)

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If you think crafting is trash and you still have those 6 prop recipes I'd be interested in buying them for really cheap since you think it's -EV to craft as long as they are armor recipes.

They're mostly weapons, bow/mace/hand crossbow. The one armor is a wizard hat which doesn't seem to be worth much to begin with. Regardless, I'm going to try selling them for as much as I can on the AH.

Curious why you specify only armor? The changes to gear in 1.0.5 are pretty similar to what they did with weapons in 1.0.4. If it isn't profitable to craft weapons in this setup it seems logical to assume it won't be profitable to craft armor either.

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10-11-2012 , 10:48 PM

#632

Shoe Lace

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The only weapons worth crafting are the 1h conquest swords and maybe the 1h axe that is not barb specific. General armors are more profitable because anyone can use them. All of the slots are good.

It's huge variance though but in the long run I'm sure it would be profitable. You just have to be willing to go through spurts where you lose 10-20 million. I don't do it personally because I haven't found any recipes yet (not farming A3) and the recipes for armor are a bit expensive.

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10-11-2012 , 11:02 PM

#633

garcia1001

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,500

Although I have never found any armor worth buying that isn't ilvl63. ilvl62 can't roll the max affixes so it doesn't matter whether it rolls 6 affixes

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10-11-2012 , 11:44 PM

#634

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Originally Posted by Bremen

MF also increases the number of 4 prop rares so the ratio of 6 to 4 stays pretty constant. (at least for values of 300MF or lower)

They're mostly weapons, bow/mace/hand crossbow. The one armor is a wizard hat which doesn't seem to be worth much to begin with. Regardless, I'm going to try selling them for as much as I can on the AH.

Curious why you specify only armor? The changes to gear in 1.0.5 are pretty similar to what they did with weapons in 1.0.4. If it isn't profitable to craft weapons in this setup it seems logical to assume it won't be profitable to craft armor either.

Actually solsek did a bunch of research and you get a higher % of 6affix in your rares at higher mf. By quite a bit too.

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10-12-2012 , 12:38 AM

#635

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Originally Posted by garcia1001

Although I have never found any armor worth buying that isn't ilvl63. ilvl62 can't roll the max affixes so it doesn't matter whether it rolls 6 affixes

Most of my gear is i62 or below.

i62 bracers:

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65 str
72 int
160 vit
55 resist all
222 armor
16% mf

i62 shoulders:

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127 str
84 vit
28 poison res
67 resist all
5% life
11% mf

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10-12-2012 , 01:37 AM

#636

garcia1001

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Well sure but when every item can roll ilvl63 in 1.0.5 and you are only doing ilvl62 that is much worse

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10-12-2012 , 05:04 AM

#637

Bremen

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Actually solsek did a bunch of research and you get a higher % of 6affix in your rares at higher mf. By quite a bit too.

It depends on if you're including the guaranteed rare in your dataset. My statement is true if you're not, linky (second graph). Solsek's data included the guaranteed rare (third graph).

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10-12-2012 , 09:20 AM

#638

Bremen

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I'm such a packrat. I pick up every flawless square/tome I see. Mostly to save money on higher level gems. But if I'm right and crafting takes a huge hit this patch the price of tomes will plummet. So I'm going short 2700 tomes. (not like I need that many to craft stars anyway). Also squares are eliminated from infernal. If those drops become flawless squares the value of those will drop as well...

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10-12-2012 , 05:58 PM

#639

Shoe Lace

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I pick them up too. I forgot if it still costs a hell tome to upgrade regular gems? I know it's only like 100g or 200g. Probably worth doing it if doesn't need a tome.

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10-16-2012 , 06:24 PM

#640

j4k3b

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im running Monster power 1 act 1 inferno if u want to join me j4k3b#1172

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10-16-2012 , 07:37 PM

#641

Bremen

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Diablo dead.

Kindof anticlimatic actually given how hard everything was nerfed, but I'll take it

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10-18-2012 , 03:21 PM

#642

isplashcranberrys

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I'm trying MP10 from lvl 1-60 with a witch doctor on hardcore. I know if I survive I will ding 60 before inferno. This is good because when I get to inferno I'm cranking down the difficulty to MP1/2. I'm wearing as much +experience/kill gear as I can, just defeated Maghda and I'm lvl 23 already.

Need to ding 30 before belial so I can have spirit vessel. Anyone else trying to go from 1-60 on MP10?

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10-18-2012 , 05:29 PM

#643

Shoe Lace

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I might eventually, but not right away. There's a lot of good drops occurring right now. It's fun sitting down for a few hours and actually knowing you might get something cool instead of almost knowing for sure it will be fodder that sells for almost nothing.

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10-18-2012 , 06:48 PM

#644

Bremen

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Pretty soon it will be fodder

Sold a flawless star topaz plan for 6M just before the patch (almost did something dumb and teach it to my jeweler, lol), now they're going for 2M and I frequently see the price go down by 1 gold as people keep undercutting each other

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10-18-2012 , 07:05 PM

#645

Shoe Lace

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That's fine, good items will still have value. The amount will be relative to what constitutes as high value at the time. Saw a few armors today on jsp sell for 150-200m which seems like a lot for HC.

I found a flawless star topaz plan today and learned it. Doubt I'll ever craft one but I'm really a pack rat. I couldn't talk myself out of right clicking it. Also learned a 6 property DH offhand yesterday. I don't even have a DH heh.

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10-18-2012 , 08:23 PM

#646

Bremen

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I just found a 6 prop 1H mace... before the patch I sold one for 6M, now there's one offered at 1.5M

crafting is dead imo

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10-19-2012 , 05:23 PM

#647

Bremen

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Anyone here interested in doing uber runs? Either MP1 or 2. If we could get a group of 4 to all show up at a specific time/day that would be awesome.

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10-20-2012 , 11:10 PM

#648

j4k3b

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Still working on getting keys and the plans. I would be interested in sharing portals.

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10-21-2012 , 12:39 AM

#649

Bremen

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Sweet! One more for a party of 3 would be awesome.

I tried sending a friend request when you posted earlier, prob got a number wrong or something

bremen#1280 here

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10-21-2012 , 08:28 AM

#650

Shoe Lace

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I haven't been looking for keys much. I'm really enjoying the nice flow of exp and drops while doing fairly long mf runs. Been running a3 mp0 mostly.

If I do find a full set of keys though, I'll definitely post here before opening it to see if we can share portals.

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