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yes. yes you can. can also do like halberd + butterfly builds too. still not a straight stack but stacks nonetheless. 3 butterflys for instance only a little bit more evasion than 2.

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10-17-2013 , 07:46 PM

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wackybrak

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as someone above pointed out, stacking evasion really makes no sense because of mkb, right?

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10-17-2013 , 10:46 PM

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oldgrandma18k

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Oh wait, so tranquils disable if you attack? wtf ****, maybe these are only for supports.

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10-17-2013 , 11:08 PM

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Dr. Wily

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the tranquil boots fix is genius. It makes them purely a support item which is what they were designed for. also the increased MS and decreased MS of reg. boots means ganking is more desirable. Not to mention the lack of XP to be shared in trilanes now, and the faster static GPM. Game is going to change drastically.

I think trying to remove trilanes is a bad idea, super flexible laning in dota really separates it from games like LoL that always have the same lane layout. It looks like icefrog is trying to encourage more of a 2-1-2 or possibly 2-1-1 with jungler, and we'll see less of stuff like the rare dual mids and abandoning an offlane against enemy defensive trilane. If we lose some of the dynamics of laning it's not worth whatever is gained from these changes.

there will be more roaming for sure though.

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10-17-2013 , 11:25 PM

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Someone saying there is some kind of ES bug where he doesn't get gold for creep kills

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10-18-2013 , 10:12 AM

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blackchilli

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Hmm does Panda's aghs upgrade now mean that he doesn't have his stun, windwalk, dispel and cyclone anymore?

Also, what is a cast point?

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10-18-2013 , 10:29 AM

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IPlayDonkaments

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the time it takes to go through a casting animation

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10-18-2013 , 11:01 AM

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DGDolly

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I really like the nerf to the pulling and creep eq since it will probably mean more lane phase action. Also, supports will waste less time trying to block and unblock camps.

Pudge blink is also pretty cool and swap/blink out combos will be pretty funny.

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10-18-2013 , 12:43 PM

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Dr. Wily

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Originally Posted by blackchilli

Hmm does Panda's aghs upgrade now mean that he doesn't have his stun, windwalk, dispel and cyclone anymore?

Also, what is a cast point?

err, he still has all those spells. Aghs upgrade will just add another ability to each aspect.

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10-18-2013 , 02:38 PM

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blackchilli

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Gd studio closes down. Cast time somehow gets renamed cast point and mojostormstout plays a sick clock vs navi.

Dota news for today.

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10-18-2013 , 02:56 PM

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oldgrandma18k

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don't forget MLG happening. non-twitch so no twitch chat or chat in general (

) but really high quality 1080p: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLGDota2/popout

Oh yeah, another interesting 6.79 patch note: Smoke of Deceit'd units aren't seen by sentries anymore. They are only seen when smoke breaks (close to enemies, etc).

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10-18-2013 , 03:04 PM

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Dr. Wily

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Originally Posted by blackchilli

Gd studio closes down. Cast time somehow gets renamed cast point and mojostormstout plays a sick clock vs navi.

Dota news for today.

cast point is typically a hero property, whereas cast time is a spell property

For example, furion's tp has a 3s cast time, but his cast point (animation time) is 0.5 seconds.

But I agree with you, there is no real distinction in game because the only thing that matters is how long it takes for the spell to actually finish casting. So the calculation to get there is arbitrary.

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10-19-2013 , 02:51 PM

#4538

blackchilli

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I think the day/night cycle is a buff to nightstalker and not a nerf.

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10-19-2013 , 10:27 PM

#4539

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What level before I can get promoted?

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10-20-2013 , 03:15 PM

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rageotones

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Wow...EG about to take on Navi in a best of 5 for weplay tournament. And......Demon is standing in for Navi. Get your popcorn ready!

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10-20-2013 , 04:20 PM

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IPlayDonkaments

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Navi having a pretty bad day so far

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10-20-2013 , 05:30 PM

#4542

beansroast01

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Originally Posted by Regret$

What level before I can get promoted?

What do u mean? Promoted to what?

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10-20-2013 , 08:14 PM

#4543

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Promoted to non-noob in the matchmaker. I'm def not in low priority (played a game there once when teamed with someone lol), but it feels like it.

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10-20-2013 , 10:42 PM

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Dr. Wily

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Other than low priority and not LP, matchmaking doesn't have discrete brackets that you get placed into, it's a continuous mmr spectrum.

There are replay brackets that represent the weighted avg mmr of all the players, but those are no longer visible anyways.

in other words, you get better and win more games, so your matchmaking will go up but there is no magic point where you're suddenly out of noob territory.

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10-21-2013 , 01:35 AM

#4545

beansroast01

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protip- you will forever play with noobs, they are inescapable. Welcome to dota2.

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10-21-2013 , 08:12 AM

#4546

blackchilli

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Originally Posted by imjosh

protip- you will forever play with noobs, they are inescapable. Welcome to dota2.

This is very sad but it's true. They will almost always be one idiot in every game.

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10-21-2013 , 01:21 PM

#4547

Dr. Wily

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patch is live apparently

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10-21-2013 , 05:21 PM

#4548

Regret$

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Don't think the tangos are working the way they are supposed to. You can pass all 4 but don't think your teammate can use them.

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10-21-2013 , 05:24 PM

#4549

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New strat to get out of lowest ELO.

1. Play riki
2. Figure out who the worst player on the other team is
3. Bumhunt

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10-21-2013 , 10:27 PM

#4550

Dr. Wily

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Originally Posted by Regret$

Don't think the tangos are working the way they are supposed to. You can pass all 4 but don't think your teammate can use them.

you're supposed to use it on your ally to give them a single charge.

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