That's a good point. Now I understand why flipping will get harder as gold is worth more. I'm learning so much from this game lol.

Yup, the $250 cap is a huge reason why if the price of gold goes up, flipping gets harder. If they raised it to say $1000, it's open season on the fish! If gold stays at a respectable amount (greater than $1) there will be certain items that will only sell on the GAH because of the $250 RMAH cap. Other than legal reasons, I don't see why Blizzard wouldn't want to raise the cap to $2000. That will just mean more profit for them.

Then again, having $2000 chargebacks can get annoying.

It would not shock me to see the market "make no sense" re: swings and swongs for another month or two.

On the flip side, flipping on the GAH becomes easier too. I used to flip a lot on the GAH when it was worth like $4/million because getting a couple hundred k profit or a million was well worth it.

If gold goes up higher, it'll be worth more so I'll be using my GAH slots again .

I haven't sold a single item over $200 yet, so I have no issues with the $250 cap for now

Yeah, it's when you get certain items/drops that have a value over $250 is where it gets troublesome. It's a good problem to have, but if I buy a weapon for $400 gold value, selling it for $250 is a horrible idea. Even doubling the cap to $500 effectively allows you to sell items as if gold were half the price again.

Part of me thinks it might be fun to just wait 6 months and buy awesome gear for like $3.50 when no one cares anymore.

Part of the problem is that sometimes things are only fun when other people care. It's kind of shallow, but true.

What do you think of a sealed auction option if you're willing to take the risk? I.e. let people bid their own price without being able to change it and you are forced to accept the highest bid.

It's risky for high end items, but it might be a compromise with Blizzard not wanting people to be able to sell one item for gazillions and the player having a chance to get more than $250 for his item (if it was really worth it). You'll never get the true value of your item probably, but it it's a compromise.

Just looked up Diablo bots being banned in the last 24 hours. Was pretty exciting to see a lot of botters getting the ban hammer. Makes me giddy about the direction of the economy. I am probably going to play more in the next couple weeks now.

that's actually a huge factor when it comes to MMOs

the more other people care about your in-game achievements, the more you do, which is why nobody has touched WoW

it's almost a monopolistic situation

Has anyone dealt with cancelling payments to gold websites or is that the risk I took by buying from them?

I've waited 2 hours and customer service just ignores me. I told them to forget it I'm cancelling and they just tell me to hold on an hour later and call me and ask how old I am and then say ok coming up. Hour later still nothing.

I don't know if I should wait to get the gold eventually so I won't be screwed or just assume Paypal will take my side. How douchey would it be if I take the gold and cancel the payment for them ignoring me and taking so long? I've bought a ton of stuff from other sites and have never charged anything back, but I feel this is beyond terrible business and customer service. But it would be stealing on my part.

That would be straight up stealing and as douchey as you can get.

Their accounts might be banned, so maybe just wait it out a bit until they find more gold. If you don't get your gold and they don't offer a refund, then do a chargeback. You are just acting like a spoiled brat right now.

You have a long time to do a chargeback don't freak out. I'm not sure who you bought from or what their service guarantees were, but if they aren't meeting them you should be able to receive some type of discount or gold bonus as well.

THey promise 20 minute gold delivery, it takes 3 hours with them not replying to a thing I'm saying, and I'm being a spoiled brat?

Sure what I'm saying has a malicious intent, but I don't think it's unjustified.

If their accounts were banned and they can't sell me the gold, they shouldn't be taking my money.

Interesting bug/feature I just ran into:

If you are fighting two champ packs and one has the avenger affix, killing the other will trigger the effect.

If you are going to do a chargeback you shouldn't be taking their gold.

If you are going to do a chargeback, then do it now tell them so and be done with it. They should be willing to refund your order first if you demand it though, or offer you something else to compensate for missing the 20 minute window. It's entirely possible they thought they had the gold when they sold it to you and no business is perfect, but again, I have no idea of the reputation of the place you bought from.

You have a right to be upset. That doesn't make it for you to suddenly start STEALING from other people. Just that you think this shows how bad your moral judgement is.

If Domino's doesn't deliver a pizza within 30 minutes do you take the pizza then call up your credit card company and start a chargeback?

I mean honestly this is just me raging at waiting so long and getting completely ignored via email, phone, and live support chat for hours on end so I probably won't do anything once I'm over it in an hour.

I am going to wait for the gold, cancel the payment, and if that works then I'll contact them and give them back the gold.

I have told them to cancel it but they have not acknowledged me. They just say hold on and no reply despite what I repeatedly say for over an hour.

The reason I want to receive the gold is because I don't know if the chargeback will go through. I don't want to risk being screwed by them when it is their fault to begin with. I haven't ever done a chargeback.

There really isn't much of a moral issue here. People believe in different things. They made a guarantee they couldn't keep, wasted the value of 3 hours of my time, and made no attempt to even listen to what I have to say. What can I demand as compensation for them doing this? Why is it okay for them to waste my time and I am at fault for demanding compensation?

Cancelling isn't going to be a 20 minute process, problems tend to take a little longer to sort themselves out. Businesses aren't perfect, I'd give them a chance to fix things.

Either they are going to scam you or they aren't. If you don't have a good resolution within a couple days then do a charge back and yes paypal will side with you, but under no circumstances should you accept the gold and then do a chargeback.

I don't expect the money to come back to me immediately, all I wanted was a "Yes we will cancel you order" or "Ok, we will refund you". They have not said anything.

you are not getting scammed. The site is having a hard time finding a supplier for your order (you bought low, then price spiked)

I shouldn't say "you are not getting scammed." As I have no idea what site you used.

But more than likely, you are not getting scammed.

If they don't have a supplier I'm fine with that. I am just not fine with them ignoring me asking them to cancel my order and giving me the run around for 3 hours.

If they can't be honest and scrupulous in their dealings, and instead will choose to make customers waste hours of their time at a chance for profit, I don't see why the default option is just to eat it and chalk it as a loss for yourself. They should be punished (not legally obviously) for it somehow.

It's like the intangible loss of time is completely fine, but god forbid they lose some tangible item (which is really just time for them since it's bots doing the work).

What do you expect when dealing with shady gold botters? Stop whining.

the best part is people defending the gold botters