I also don't think we should have an option to throw in the towel, otherwise people will be saving attacks waiting for the white flag to fly....

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I will agree with the need for a day or two between wars. This will help resource wise but it will also help my life outside of CoC


As for some of the strategies that need to go....
- why are some higher ups using giants in wars?
- we need people to move giant bombs inside their base. This last clan had a guy (I wanna say Vinh) that just looked for bases that don't have any free space in the middle. No free space in the middle = no giant bombs= hogs can run wild.

Any arguments for and against on the following...

Korosh
Alexis
Melisou

Don't have any feelings either way in those.

All i can say is I'd prefer we make sure we are booting them for the right reasons. War can be tricky for the lower levels.

First like 5 wars I was in the bottom 5 or so (when we were doing 20/25s) and I could basically not attack anyone. Probably still similar even in the 45/50s.

Just finished my first war attacks in my crappy random clan and can agree war is not easy at the bottom. Especially after a way higher member took out the bottom two bases. I was 18 out of 20 in our clan and tried their 18. Didn't even get close to 1 star. Used my second attack on their bottom one and almost made 2 stars. Time to look for a better newby clan

These last 8 wars (40+ players per) have had matching TH levels for our bottom players, for the most part. Problem is, there are a handful of players that have gone well below their TH level just to grab easy stars (Dimas), leaving nothing for our lower players.

Bottom line we are 5-3 in large clan wars; the 5 wins have come in blowout fashion allowing people to farm an attack on an exposed TH. All 3 losses have been razor thin against better clans.

In general people need to be attacking within their general level/TH level. There are always going to be exceptions, as war nears end, of course. Also, you shouldn't just be making troops then looking to find a target. You should be scouting bases and tailoring your troops to exploit weaknesses.

For the record, I facerolled Vinh in final attack, just to exact a bit of justice.

Feel like DamageCape? goes low a lot also. Couple wars in a row he took my rec'd target just before me with stuff right above open. Also, is he the one that always uses minions in grinding and war? That seems weird to me.

He's been booted....

Haha I don't keep up on the boots I guess.

That's an interesting argument about big bombs. Cons for internalizing bombs:
1. extra space inside will spread out D, just a little bit more.
2. More troops of theirs are alive when they hit the outer walls then when they reach an internal wall. This is arguable - troops clump when they get inside much more than they do on the outside.
3. Internal bombs are (I believe) less likely to be triggered when used internally. This is arguable though.

As for Giants in war. I use them. I've been trying to find a way around dragtarding, and as my troops upgrade, they're getting more and more effective. My attack on 6 last war was yet another frustration of this strategy. 47% and no kill on the TH. lv4 Giants/wiz don't compare well to lv2 Drags, but lv 5 giants/wiz/healer/WB do compare well, at least against TH8 or below. Once they get the additional death balloons that come w TH9, healers suck donkey balls, and the strategy starts to wall apart. I wish minions triggered death balloons. Also, I horde my Oil for BK upgrades. I've actually only built a couple of DB troops.

If I see another giant rush I'll lose my lunch!

Giant are barbs with thicker skins. They do NOT kill stuff quicker. The main pro imo is that because they target defences, it's easier to "control" where they are going to go. Otherwise I'm using them in squads of 2-4 as a meat shield to distract from hard hitting troops with lower hit points e.g. wbs, wizards etc.

Also +1 on breaks between wars. Also guards against randoms quitting during war prep.

Maybe we need some sort of guideline for ppl in war with regards to who you attack.. Ie no lower than 4 below your equivalent, for the first 20hrs at least?

So tilting seeing our number 2/3 no star one of their 20 somethings lol

IMHO, there are people on the don't kick list who should be up for review. That is, if our intention is to move forward and upwards as a clan... :-/

I guess it depends on the seriousness (in terms of 30 somethings playing a phone based game lol) of the clan.. Which when there are 9yr olds etc in it, will always be limited..

Kids in the clan is obviously fine with me, as it's not my clan at the end of the day. But it does suggest it will always lean toward fun rather than full on hardcore strat, which ppl will probably have to come to terms with..

My idea for putting GBs on the inside is purely for hogs. If they are on the outside you are just praying the hogs go that way. However, if you put them on the inside next to a tower the hogs will def go that way. They don't need to be in the middle but just not on the complete outside.

As a side I see value in spreading the base out a little. Obviously not so much that they can place troops right in side but enough so they don't know where all bombs and hidden towers are.

The clan was "sold" on the fact that it's full of 2+2ers. I'm gonna take a wild guess that the no of fourth graders on 2+2 is extremely miniscule.

BTW, I personally find it fun to be on the winning team. A very close second is being part of a team that may not be the best now but are pulling together and working towards that goal...

Controlledchaos is a clan that is into serious strat and wants to be as +ev as possible. I am sure they will accept as many like minded individuals that want to join

I have been trying to talk sense into Brayden about some things
But he's thick headed. Markinator and Omar will have much better success with suggestions.




Gbs go next to ads for me. Idk why but it seems to make sense

Agreed. But at the same time, I don't expect the clan creator to kick out their 9 yr old kids and explain to them it's because their membership of the clan 'is -ev' lol

The 2p2 kids> randoms

They listen and can be grounded if need be iykwim

I'm also issuing a challenge for next war for me bob and markinator to not make one donation the whole 2 days.

I am in vacation this week so I won't be on much. But if it's to the majority of 2p2 liking I will take me and my "non 2p2" deadweight family and friends and start a new clan.

This would be Omar, brockvegas, bostincrybsbies, joe123, dinaldroy1975, mrcarpenter1975 and mrcarpenter 1976.

Think about it and let me know

I vote no on it