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11-10-2010 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
I know this was already linked: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/machinima-live-stream

Machinima's 15th prestige run. How have they been playing for about 12 hours now and only level 24?
I think a combination of factors are affecting that. They are many different people playing, each of whom need to get up to speed. Plus, with different people they won't all be superstars. Some will be good, some will be average.

They're now level 48. I know someone who works there and took a 4 hour shift on the livestream. I think she leveled up twice for them.

And, they're also not 100% focused on the game- they're bs'ing with each other and with the fans, to some extent.

I think they have a decent shot at being the first to make it. It'll be a hell of a grind.
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11-10-2010 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mittens
The problem was stopping power was not the ttk's it created, but that they were so advantageous as to create a rigidity to the class construction process. Many of us enjoyed the pace of kills in mw2 because it rewarded fast reflexes, good initial aim, and was just plain fun. I, like others, expected them to scale up gun damage as if there were stopping power to maintain the same pace we all enjoyed. They didn't, and in doing so seem to have damaged the soul of the game.
This x1000

It's inherently stupid to have a perk that gives you an advantage in 99% of all situations. This is why the UMP was so overpowered, it allowed you to use other perks while still having a 3 hit kill at any range without stopping power. I was also hoping that they would up the damage of the guns or possibly make like headshots a 2x multiplier and body shots a 1.4x (this would be a great fix imo), but they didn't. Also the lack of danger close and stopping power make the game much much easier to balance, which is good for everybody.
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11-10-2010 , 02:45 PM
Just out of curiosity, have they fixed the domination glitch where if two people are capping a flag and one dies it sometimes lets the bar completely fill, but doesn't let you cap the flag? I haven't played enough domination yet to see if this still happens.
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11-10-2010 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
Kind of on-topic, change of subject...

Who actually enjoys the game and plans to be sticking around???

I enjoy the game. I can work around the issues. If I wanted something more realistic I'd probably join the military again and volunteer to go into a combat zone. I don't try to make the game anything more than it is.

It's interesting how some, if not most, people got fed up with MW2 and how broken it is and how IW gave up on the game, but yet at the first chance to play something new and fresh, everyone runs back to the game. It just doesn't make sense to me. You know there is something wrong when the majority of people bitch much more than I do, but, yet, I actually like Black Ops a lot. Would I change a few things? Of course! Would I run back to MW2 because Black Ops has a higher learning curve? Never! Most of you wouldn't survive one match in Halo.

I'd like to hear what animal_chin has to say.


for me, the games go like this


Cod4
MW2

Black Ops




WaW


now, i didn't play any cod before 4, and I think 4 is a better game than all of them. but everyone was playing mw2, so i played that and learned to like it. it's a good game.

with black ops, it's a completely different game. gone are the days of effectively camping in an upstairs building and guarding it with unlimited claymores (even without noob toobs)

so with black ops, it's forcing me to play more run and gun, and I like it. I'm not great at it yet, but I like balancing the run and gun style and camping when I'm protecting an objective.

My favorite set up right now is

Famas + silencer + light blue dot
Javelin for lolz(HQ) or the 3rd launcher for clearing air support

grenade/stuns/claymore
ghost/war/marathon


or using a silenced MP5/or AK74 blue dot/grip (ty badger)



overall this game is tougher, but I didn't notice on my second play time that I was much more effective about anticipating where the enemies would be and cut them off. I've noticed that flanking in this game is not as effective since as you are running to get the main group randoms spawn behind you, or as in mossy's case, literally right in front of you.


overall, not as good as MW2, but I'm going to keep playing it because I like the newness of it. If we use the logic "it's not as good as MW2" for a reason to not buy/play, we would never play a new game again


like, is gears 3 gonna be better than mw2? probably not, but i'll be there getting it
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11-10-2010 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Taste_Them_Aces
so... yorkie i thought u said this game was perfect bru?
Screenshot of me saying it's perfect is worth $10 for you sir.
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11-10-2010 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BetzPH
It is def key to get to the edge of the map quick. Once you know the map well it isn't so bad
Yeah I know. So far I only have Nuke Town down, and the spot behind the fence at the end of the house is such a great camping spot. People always look inside the house, but they're so paranoid they never pay attention to the lawn
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11-10-2010 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
Kind of on-topic, change of subject...

Who actually enjoys the game and plans to be sticking around???

I enjoy the game. I can work around the issues. If I wanted something more realistic I'd probably join the military again and volunteer to go into a combat zone. I don't try to make the game anything more than it is.

It's interesting how some, if not most, people got fed up with MW2 and how broken it is and how IW gave up on the game, but yet at the first chance to play something new and fresh, everyone runs back to the game. It just doesn't make sense to me. You know there is something wrong when the majority of people bitch much more than I do, but, yet, I actually like Black Ops a lot. Would I change a few things? Of course! Would I run back to MW2 because Black Ops has a higher learning curve? Never! Most of you wouldn't survive one match in Halo.
I'm liking the game. So far, as it's been said before, the game is very balanced. I don't tilt when somebody hits me with a certain gun or whatever (this could change though lol). I wish they would have made the guns as if they all had stopping power (or made the headshot multiplier 2x and body a 1.4x, as I suggested before). I had a boatload of fun playing some custom matches with another 2+2er. Set it up in 10 kill rounds and each round had a different, ******ed class setup (bold action quickscoping, 4x run speed with shotguns, 4x run speed with lmg and 500% health that never regenerates (lol) and the funniest one of them all was dual mac 10s with like 2x run speed and vampirism (vampirism is where if you hurt somebody you gain a certain percentage of that health back). It took seriously like all the clips that you started with and most of your pistol to kill somebody, or like 3 tomahawk hits, so funny.)

My two biggest complaints so far are that for the PC are that all the servers have a maximum of 18 players. Really wish they lowered this to 12 (it is 12 players on the Xbox and PS3 right?). The second complaint is that it's random who is on your team, so I can't party up with a group. This really sucks and if there is no workaround for this I don't see myself sticking with the game very long.




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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
I'd like to hear what animal_chin has to say.
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11-10-2010 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by animal_chin
Just out of curiosity, have they fixed the domination glitch where if two people are capping a flag and one dies it sometimes lets the bar completely fill, but doesn't let you cap the flag? I haven't played enough domination yet to see if this still happens.
haven't encountered this yet but we did have a situation last night were 3 of us where on the B flag and two of us got killed and by the time I respawned we had capped it

I'm also wondering if you're able to silent cap with ghost?

Has anyone else noticed that sometimes the flag will start flickering like it's being capped when no one is on it?

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11-10-2010 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by scotchnrocks
Has anyone else noticed that sometimes the flag will start flickering like it's being capped when no one is on it?
I have, but don't know if it was because of ghost or because the announcer was saying something else at the time.
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11-10-2010 , 03:04 PM
I've been primarily using the Enfield w/ red dot sight. I haven't used my secondary weapon much at all.

I also like the Famas.

Sandy Ravage was using the AK74u, with I think the red dot sight, lightweight/SoH/ninja. I'm going to try out the AK74u, but use Ghost/SoH/Marathon. I'm also hearing the Galil is good.

I kind of like the dynamic of having to pay for everything. For one, it makes you think about what you want, and two, "Omg I have to spend money!!" I feel like I am going to end up being a hoarder of cod points and only spend them when I really need to. For example, do I really need to spend money on an emblem? Do I need to spend money to try out a different gun? New attachments? New reticule windows and colors? Well, ok, yeah, for that I do. I don't even know if I will buy those layers for the big emblem because I don't see a need for it. I like money!!!
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11-10-2010 , 03:04 PM
@IUP

i think my feelings are represented by what most people have said ITT. Although i've now started using the AUG with RDS and thats good at range. Yesterday i didn't really like the game that much, but im starting to enjoy it now. Still had a 1-12 game earlier where i almost broke the controller :/.
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11-10-2010 , 03:07 PM
GETTING ON NOW

obv
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11-10-2010 , 03:09 PM
So when you look at TDM kills from the leaderboard it lists ALL kills from your TEAM..

You gotta go look at you Combat Record to get your Total kills and KDR.. Wish they would fix that too..
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11-10-2010 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by animal_chin
I know, I know, however, since you responded to some of my posts after our girl fight I've decided that you can be level-headed and talk maturely. haha

But really, you give games a chance and see the game for what it is rather than running away, so I was just wondering if you really thought the game was broken. I never said I didn't agree with you about the brokenness of MW2. I just never agreed with you that I should not do something out of principle. (I can't remember everything that was said)

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Originally Posted by scotchnrocks
haven't encountered this yet but we did have a situation last night where 3 of us where on the B flag and two of us got killed and by the time I respawned we had capped it

I'm also wondering if you're able to silent cap with ghost?

Has anyone else noticed that sometimes the flag will start flickering like it's being capped when no one is on it?
I've seen flags being taken without an announcement so I think Ghost will do that for you. There have been a lot of times where I took flags and took it easily by myself since nobody seemed to be paying attention, with me having Ghost.
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11-10-2010 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Taste_Them_Aces
@IUP

i think my feelings are represented by what most people have said ITT. Although i've now started using the AUG with RDS and thats good at range. Yesterday i didn't really like the game that much, but im starting to enjoy it now. Still had a 1-12 game earlier where i almost broke the controller :/.
No ****. I didn't think you ever got mad at this game. I guess not having a mic makes me think that you enjoy this game, and the fact that you played MW2 nonstop.

So...how old are you? I'm 27.
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11-10-2010 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
... I'm going to keep playing it because I like the newness of it. If we use the logic "it's not as good as MW2" for a reason to not buy/play, we would never play a new game again.
This is the best point that's been made so far, imo. To add my thoughts, it's clear to me that we all exploited MW2. Ultimately, we liked the exploits of MW2 that made us better players while we hated those who exploited the counters. But to everyone, these sets were different.

So, for some, I believe the simple fact BO isn't everything you liked about MW2 minus everything you hated is what makes it a disappointment. That's fair. But the reluctance to adapt to the new concepts of BO isn't fair, imo. Remember, balanced doesn't mean cripple everyone who doesn't play the way you do. This is oversimplified, but it's valid.

I played for 5-6 hours last night, and I suck incredibly. I amaze myself at how bad I suck. But I had a blast. Still, the jury is out for me, and I would encourage everyone else in this forum to judge slowly.

Some thoughts:

-- My biggest struggle is running out of bullets. Reloading is twice the adventure it was in MW2. I'm learning to take my time, and only engage targets I can drop.

-- The party/connection/community aspect is a complete ****ing mystery right now. I like how easy it is to join, but don't like how difficult it is to keep track of everyone.

-- I don't get the graphics hate at all. The only dropoff I've noticed is targets are harder to see. But that's more a product of the maps than anything else.

-- I like the challenge. The learning curve is what draws me in.

-- Chat sounds different. It's almost as if the sounds are laundered. It's much clearer and a lot quieter with more consistent volume. I really like that.

-- Oh, and whomever it was we played Dom with last night who kept whining and shouting general orders ("All you guys had to do was defend B. It's pretty ****ing simple"), or ordering us to triple cap when we're way ahead and everyone's still trying to figure out the maps, that **** can't stop soon enough. Seriously. I will not play with you again if that continues. I said something during the match, but I'm not sure if it was received.

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11-10-2010 , 03:16 PM
wtf

this is the view down the scope of my variable zoom bolt action sniper

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11-10-2010 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
Sandy Ravage was using the AK74u, with I think the red dot sight, lightweight/SoH/ninja. I'm going to try out the AK74u, but use Ghost/SoH/Marathon.

For example, do I really need to spend money on an emblem? Do I need to spend money to try out a different gun? New attachments? New reticule windows and colors? Well, ok, yeah, for that I do. I don't even know if I will buy those layers for the big emblem because I don't see a need for it. I like money!!!

1: Yea AK74u is pretty sick and I'll say it again - Do NOT use a silencer with it lolz. Pretty awesome with warlord red dot/grip (or ext mags).

2: When you prestige you lose everything except the player card. Yes that includes all the money you've earned. All your attachments, kills streaks, equips, everything goes bye bye. So if your going to prestige might as well pump that money into your player card to look badass or your just going to throw it away.
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11-10-2010 , 03:18 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...ck-ops-faceoff

Summary:
-PS3 drops in resolution from previous COD titles from 1024x600 to 960x544, 360 version increases slightly to 1040x608.

-360 version has noticeably better performance, can be as much as 20FPS, even in cutscenes!

-360 has higher resolution shadows and better shadow filtering.

-Graphical bugs do appear in both versions but PS3 has them more frequently and are more apparent.

-In 3D mode both versions drop frames more often but the 360 version manages to maintain its framerate much better, the PS3 version sometimes drops down to as low as 20FPS!

-360 supports split screen online multiplayer with support for two separate gamertags, PS3 version forces the second player to log in as a guest account.
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11-10-2010 , 03:18 PM
Well, turns out hardline + uav is how you get around the fact that otherwise you're almost better off with the sound off. Playing again now, and matchmaking seems incapable of getting me into a game with >4 people with the same ping.
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11-10-2010 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
I know, I know, however, since you responded to some of my posts after our girl fight I've decided that you can be level-headed and talk maturely. haha



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I just never agreed with you that I should not do something out of principle. (I can't remember everything that was said)
I think the differences in principle stem from the different player base between the PC and the Xbox360. For CoD4 on the PC there where a ton of servers that explicitly said no noob toob, no marty. You would get banned if you used these. It became faux pas to use them in pretty much any server and while the game was popular, people just didn't use them. Same with Counter-Strike, you just don't use the auto sniper, you use the AWP, or if your a real try hard you use the scout. That type of thinking goes out the window when you don't have dedicated servers. I think also, that the XBox gamer has a lower average age than the PC gamer. If you are brought up in a video game environment that has immature kids, without dedicated servers, it's pretty easy to see why an XBoxer would not discontinue doing something just out of principal.
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11-10-2010 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kkcountry
wtf

this is the view down the scope of my variable zoom bolt action sniper

You're loosing bro. Cap a flag quick!
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11-10-2010 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TreyWilly
-- Oh, and whoever it was we played Dom with last night who kept whining and shouting general orders ("All you guys had to do was defend B. It's pretty ****ing simple"), or whining that we need to triple cap when we're way ahead and everyone's trying to figure out the difference between their ass and third base, that **** can't stop soon enough. Seriously. I will not play with you again if that continues. I said something during the match, but I'm not sure if it was received.
I agree with your points, but I guess my thoughts are overlooked. Maybe they're not, I don't know.

But anyways, as far as this quote, it wasn't me. I don't think we even played with each other. I don't bitch about it. I don't think leaving the 1 flag for the other team is valid right now because I don't think the spawn system is the same as MW2 so I was just running around trying to take every flag that I could even if it was the 3rd flag.

However, I will say that if you need a flag or should take a flag and you happen to know someone on the team is at one, go get it with them. Or at least, don't just run by it because you want more kills. Taking flags with more than 1 person greatly increases the speed by which you'll cap them. I'm thinking it's faster than MW2. There were a few times where I would be on a flag and someone would run right by me, especially on those critical flags that are mandatory to have control of.

I have a feeling the spawn system has something to do with the places where nobody is looking, so that they won't spawn in front of you, but they can definitely spawn behind you. I had a death last night where I respawned in the same room with a guy who was going prone looking out the door. I walked over to him and gave him a knife to the back. I think Treyarch understood what IW was trying to do, but failed at doing it.
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11-10-2010 , 03:28 PM
Ballistic knife is the new commando. A dude in my last game was mara/lightwate with this knife and even tho I came out ahead in kills vs him he got me and other teammates pretty consistently.


I picked up a crossbow and got a kill with it my first try. Pretty awesome!!!
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11-10-2010 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ChopSueyyy
this game is hard
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Originally Posted by EvertonYorkie
Is it your first CoD game? You play Halo a bunch right?

Just pick a decent set up and stick to the edges of the map, you'll be fine.
I am a noob. I just got hooked on MW2 cause of my nephew coming over and playing all the time about 2 months ago. I first started out in games getting massacred like 2/19. Got it to where I could get like 22/12's and overall K/d about at 0.5 from like a 0.20 lol. But I love the game and was getting the hang of it. Now this beast came out and its like relearning everything again.

I will say that yes the people complaining are because they suck and you really need some skills to kill in this game. I've gotten my K/D to about 0.8 or 9 IIRC and damn proud about it since I have no clue where I am with the new maps and all the other new things and still only a 2 month old fps babe. My goal is to get to 1.0 K/D soon.

So in short I think ppl should just give this game some more time to adjust to the new aspects. I'm sure they'll fix the spawn issues. I miss my Scar-H but just purchased the AK74 and it is a beast and looking forward to some other guns I keep hearing about.

And finally wanna send some love to the PS3 community for allowing a noob like me to play with you guys. Your all really cool.
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