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04-03-2021 , 04:19 PM

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What's the worst hand you call down with here?

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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BB ($25)
HERO ($24.99)
HJ ($13.48)
CO ($28.21)
BTN ($20.06)
SB ($47.38)

Dealt to Hero: 7

HERO Raises To $0.50, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.25

Hero SPR on Flop: [22.26 effective]
Flop ($1.10): Q

BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.25 (Rem. Stack: $24.24), BB Raises To $1.41 (Rem. Stack: $23.09), HERO Calls $1.16 (Rem. Stack: $23.08)

Turn ($3.92): Q

BB Checks, HERO Bets $1.25 (Rem. Stack: $21.83), BB Raises To $5.67 (Rem. Stack: $17.42), HERO Calls $4.42 (Rem. Stack: $17.41)

River ($15.26): Q

BB Bets $17.42 (allin), HERO ?

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04-03-2021 , 04:23 PM

threatD

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QJ.

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04-03-2021 , 04:28 PM

Lazarus Ledd

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Weird hand. What bothers me is that you opened to 2bb, rake remember?

AA, KK JJ . Considering they block Q.

I don't know where you should start folding but you have all Q here.

GTO you need to probably snap fold this on river.

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04-03-2021 , 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by threatD

QJ.

Seems like a good bluff spot for BB then?

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04-03-2021 , 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus Ledd

Don't you think Villain's bluff hands contain an Ace/King or Jack in it though?

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04-03-2021 , 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Seems like a good bluff spot for BB then?

Sure. But people massively underbluff at microstakes.

And I dont think this is as much of an under call down as you think it is. You are putting 100bb into a 4bb pot.

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04-03-2021 , 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Don't you think Villain's bluff hands contain an Ace/King or Jack in it though?

Why do you think this?

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04-03-2021 , 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by threatD

Why do you think this?

Main Bluffs for BB block UTG's Qx.

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04-03-2021 , 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by threatD

Sure. But people massively underbluff at microstakes.

And I dont think this is as much of an under call down as you think it is. You are putting 100bb into a 4bb pot.

So you just fold flop?

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04-03-2021 , 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Main Bluffs for BB block UTG's Qx.

Do you think 25nl players are thinking like this?

77 doesnt block any of his Qx either. So you calling with JJ atleast blocks his QJ combos. Blocking his value will have more impact than unblocking his bluffs.

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04-03-2021 , 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

So you just fold flop?

Na I play flop the same. I mix turn and either bet fold, or check looking to call a lot of rivers.

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04-03-2021 , 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by threatD

Do you think 25nl players are thinking like this?

77 doesnt block any of his Qx either. So you calling with JJ atleast blocks his QJ combos. Blocking his value will have more impact than unblocking his bluffs.

I think anonymous pools do encourage more bluffing in general. I'm new to ignition so I'm not positive of that but from the first 15k hands or so I've played I've seen people play pretty aggro.

There's more value bets OTR than bluffs. So can it not be argued that unblocking bluffs is more important?

Unblocking 2 combos of bluffs = blocking 4 combos of value.

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04-03-2021 , 05:53 PM

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AKhh would be a great hand to call he just super polarized himself into a boat dont think main pool turns a 4 into a bluff and a Q doesnt take this check raising turnline ever prob has a bs hand like A2s 56s. I think fish gets triggered by your small bet: we should arrive to this river with a ton of Qx tho
Did you call?

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04-03-2021 , 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

They will have a **** load of hands that contain an A K or J though. So blocking one is fairly irrelevant.

I've only played significant volume on stars and the pools massively underbluff, ignition might be different.

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04-03-2021 , 07:09 PM

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Are you the poker god or the nonbeliever here?

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04-03-2021 , 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Biochemie

AKhh would be a great hand to call he just super polarized himself into a boat dont think main pool turns a 4 into a bluff and a Q doesnt take this check raising turnline ever prob has a bs hand like A2s 56s. I think fish gets triggered by your small bet: we should arrive to this river with a ton of Qx tho
Did you call?

I agree with this.

Yeah I called so I am the non believer in this spot.

I was wondering how people perceived this spot in general though.

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04-03-2021 , 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by whitemares

Are you the poker god or the nonbeliever here?

I'm the non believer since I called river.

How do you play this hand?

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04-03-2021 , 09:41 PM

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whitemares

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

I'm the non believer since I called river.

How do you play this hand?

So you called and you were good? I'm guessing that's what your thread title is suggesting

idk, probably checking turn, or folding river a lot. I'm a station tho so I'm not folding every time. Plus we have the spazz equity

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04-03-2021 , 10:52 PM

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AK high

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04-03-2021 , 10:55 PM

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Calling the double XR and then calling the shove seems like it's only +EV against the bluffiest of lines.

Your blockers are largely irrelevant. Do you really need to defend this far down in your UTG range to be unexploitable? Probably not. Meh, I think I just fold turn, snap folding river.

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04-03-2021 , 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

AK high

You'd rather call with AK here or 77?

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04-03-2021 , 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tombos21

Would you rather have AK or 77 here if we decide to Hero call river?

Also double XR's seem like such FPS to me.

I want to check pop stats on this but I feel most value hands just continue barreling OTT for fear of me checking back. The double XR screams desperation.

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04-03-2021 , 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

You'd rather call with AK here or 77?

AK i guess, but I probably call everything

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04-03-2021 , 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

AK i guess, but I probably call everything

So you think this line is bluff heavy? I'm still getting used to anonymous pools but I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that people love going nuts when they think their opponent has very few combos that can comfortably call a ship.