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02-03-2010 , 12:56 PM
Hey guys,

I'm still a break-even player @ 5NL and I still don't know why. Maybe you guys can help me to see oblivious leak in my stats. I know it's a really small sample size but it gives the idea...

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02-03-2010 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ksight3
Blind play is not the biggest concern
this

graph-guy is putting the most money into pots with his widest ranges. it is good to be positionally aware, but you have it backwards. start off by c-bet bluffing less in the co/button. go for value the same way you do in early position
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02-04-2010 , 02:44 AM
I can totally get why this game makes people want to quit!

5k again today, after an abysmal January I've tried to focus up and play better for February and since that hasn't helped maybe it's time to work on my game?

The graph is unfortunately my standard FTP workday. Spend the first 1/2 at 2nl/5nl to grind up a few buyins, in this case today 5 @ 2 then 4 @ 5 just so 10nl can decintegrate chunks of my bankroll



I threw up the leakbuster by stakes, let me know if any important ones are left out.

I know my 3bet is low but every time I 3bet higher than 5% I bleed money horribly.



Any help would rock, Thanks 2p2
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02-04-2010 , 03:38 AM
^^^do it by pos
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02-04-2010 , 04:22 AM
whelp, it appears I come out guns ablazin' from the sb that's definately an issue...ummmmmm lemme try and take a feeble stab at some leaks and hopefully you can all correct and point out plenty I miss.

my 3bet% sucks from all positions, I have no idea how I'm gonna get that to 8ish...I admittedly don't have a good handle on how positions affect 3betting either.

the button, cutoff, & early position look alright oddly enough...thoughts?

middle looks a bit loose and I should probably discipline the fold of the AJ's and other weakish sc's maybe?

with the blinds I'm not really sure how they should be panning out, would I be expecting the sb and BB to be about the same vpip & pfr? possibly the sb just slightly higher than the bb because of theft?

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02-04-2010 , 05:00 AM
open your co and btn way more, you want to play in position a lot (stealing the blinds are fine too)

in the bb when its limped to you, you can open it with any playable hand.
dont worry about 3betting too much at 5nl and below.

how are your cbet% and cbet success%?
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02-04-2010 , 05:29 AM
If I'm going to be opening my range more in late position I'll have to get better at not leaking money by calling in bad spots...lately it feels like all my 2nd nut hands are minraised by the nut on the river

Targeting specific players to cbet relentlessly and others to just lean more toward value is still a considerable struggle for me

my cbet% is 45-50 should this be up closer to 60? and my success is just over 50 I'd assume this is just a stat I'd have to react to and see how raising my cbet% relates to lowering the success%?
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02-04-2010 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Blind2itAll
whelp, it appears I come out guns ablazin' from the sb that's definately an issue...ummmmmm lemme try and take a feeble stab at some leaks and hopefully you can all correct and point out plenty I miss.

my 3bet% sucks from all positions, I have no idea how I'm gonna get that to 8ish...I admittedly don't have a good handle on how positions affect 3betting either.

the button, cutoff, & early position look alright oddly enough...thoughts?

middle looks a bit loose and I should probably discipline the fold of the AJ's and other weakish sc's maybe?

with the blinds I'm not really sure how they should be panning out, would I be expecting the sb and BB to be about the same vpip & pfr? possibly the sb just slightly higher than the bb because of theft?

Why are you looser in SB than BB?
Why are you limping UTG?
Why is your CO/BU tighter than SB?

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Originally Posted by Blind2itAll
If I'm going to be opening my range more in late position I'll have to get better at not leaking money by calling in bad spots...lately it feels like all my 2nd nut hands are minraised by the nut on the river

Targeting specific players to cbet relentlessly and others to just lean more toward value is still a considerable struggle for me

my cbet% is 45-50 should this be up closer to 60? and my success is just over 50 I'd assume this is just a stat I'd have to react to and see how raising my cbet% relates to lowering the success%?
Don't worry about c-bet success %
You are tight as hell you should be c-betting like 70-80%
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02-04-2010 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Blind2itAll
whelp, it appears I come out guns ablazin' from the sb that's definately an issue...ummmmmm lemme try and take a feeble stab at some leaks and hopefully you can all correct and point out plenty I miss.

my 3bet% sucks from all positions, I have no idea how I'm gonna get that to 8ish...I admittedly don't have a good handle on how positions affect 3betting either.

the button, cutoff, & early position look alright oddly enough...thoughts?

middle looks a bit loose and I should probably discipline the fold of the AJ's and other weakish sc's maybe?

with the blinds I'm not really sure how they should be panning out, would I be expecting the sb and BB to be about the same vpip & pfr? possibly the sb just slightly higher than the bb because of theft?


ur looser in the small blind than the button? wtf dude
get ur button to 30-35%
get ur Co to 25%
and this getting ur 3bet % up is over hyped, its ok at 3, its simple, u 3bet for value! thats all there is to it! no need to 3bet calling stations with junk to be called down with more junk, imo
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02-04-2010 , 05:20 PM
I wouldn't focus too much on your PF game. You're tight, but that's okay.
I think, you should fix your postflop game. You need to cbet way more (as ksight said) and be much more aggressive postflop overall. Try to not just play fit/fold postflop (your fold to cbet is 70%, is that right?).
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02-04-2010 , 05:51 PM
Thanks so much for all the responses I'm still running a session currently and trying to include some of the many points...but I'll be updating once I take a break
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02-04-2010 , 06:54 PM


The +

Serious rungood kinda contributed to the heavier 3bet%, opened up my button a bit, avoided calling at all costs (still found myself in a bunch of spots where I did ehhh)

The -

Why do I just love that SB...I can't get enough of it...just a few rounds without a steal or 2 and I get the shakes apparently (read as a cry for help) Didn't seem to step down vpip&pfr from the co&middle and damnit I can't lay down weak draws when facing constant value bets

I cbet 53% and was successful 50% I'm not sure how high these are supposed to be...

I'm not sure how horrible the sb stats are but I definately need to stop cbetting flop air with marginal hands after the BB comes along

Last edited by Blind2itAll; 02-04-2010 at 07:05 PM.
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02-06-2010 , 01:12 PM
Here are my stats,loosing obviously but have improved comparing to first 10k sample,going from -$960 to -$343,looking for leaks and what I can do differently,any comments much appreciated!

http://yfrog.com/eographrpx
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02-06-2010 , 10:18 PM



Where should I look to improve my game? Spew/Bluff in bad spots less to get my redline more stable? Since it seems thats the problem at the moment.
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02-07-2010 , 12:57 AM
more hands cause it's tough to give advice without a 50k sample...experience is huge

One thing I can see already is...Raise preflop...if you don't want to raise your way in, fold. That's pretty black and white but that's fine for now.

Fold to aggression...fold TPTK & weaker to huge aggression on the flop, and be more likely to fold to turn/river to aggression. Obviously don't always lay down TPTK but if it's a decent player that hasn't gone crazy in 50 hands the villainmight just have it.

If your hand isn't already made it's very rare to want to get all in. (the monster oesfd is one I can think of)

I kinda suck so that's all I can really think of with this small a sample.

Last edited by Blind2itAll; 02-07-2010 at 01:04 AM.
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02-07-2010 , 07:26 AM
I think that you are playing way to many hands totally OOP (this means you should lower your vpip in blinds), stop cold calling hands in blinds.
U should value bet more, that will increase your redline more and your blue line.
If u are playing ok postflop (although i think you go to showdown to often) these 5k hands can be normal variance.
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02-08-2010 , 10:02 PM
I have put in 45k hands so far at 5nl, and am not too happy regarding my results. Rakeback kept me in the black, but I am breakevening it right now.







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02-09-2010 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hawaiiloans
I have put in 45k hands so far at 5nl, and am not too happy regarding my results. Rakeback kept me in the black, but I am breakevening it right now.
Take this with a grain of salt, but you're probably not finding enough folds postflop. Your river call efficiency and W$SD are pretty low from later positions.
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02-09-2010 , 05:19 AM
Here is my NL10 stats at poker stars . What you think ? I'm planning to move to nl25 in this month. Any thoughts ? I would be happy to receive any advice.



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02-09-2010 , 02:16 PM
Hi, I've been playing 50NL for 1.5Month and been running horribly bad. But with adjusted EV i'm still breaking even. My confidence is at a bottom right now and could use any advice possible. Hope I can get some good tips or something. TY in advance.










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02-09-2010 , 08:29 PM
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02-09-2010 , 11:48 PM
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Take this with a grain of salt, but you're probably not finding enough folds postflop. Your river call efficiency and W$SD are pretty low from later positions.
So basically fold more marginal spots preflop?
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02-10-2010 , 12:01 AM
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So basically fold more marginal spots preflop?
More postflop than preflop. Your WTSD% is pretty high at 30%. Filter all your hands where you've called a bet on the river from the CO and in MP and post some hands if you're unsure whether or not they're good calls.
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02-10-2010 , 12:47 AM
I've filtered out some of my CO and MP hands, which I call on the river.

I am making some dumb hero calls with AK, or hitting a pair on the turn which is no good against a draw that comes in, etc. Mostly level 1 playing that gets me losing huge on the river.
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02-10-2010 , 02:11 AM
This is my first time posting in the stats thread and I am looking to fill some leaks that may be evident. Here are a few charts and graphs, what else should I post to get good review.
Also, these are over 24k hands, except the EV chart, I did this so most stats will be more accurate in how I play lately since my game evolves. Should I post some stats over larger sample size?
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