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01-28-2009 , 12:01 AM
played 1k hands i checked the W$WSF for the session and its 34.9 compared to last months which is 37.4 and this year 34.3 i have no idea how to get it around 45 anyone ?
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01-28-2009 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by IAcedPoker
played 1k hands i checked the W$WSF for the session and its 34.9 compared to last months which is 37.4 and this year 34.3 i have no idea how to get it around 45 anyone ?
Mine is the same, and my cbet% is also too low... I would think that cbetting more leads to +W$WSF.
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01-28-2009 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
If anyone could tell me if I'm going wrong here (and wtf the ev graph means lol) it would be appreciated.





btw AA brag

I played tons over a year ago, loads. Got to nl100 before I quit. Starting again fresh BR, feel a little bit lost still and just want to check im playing +ev and if I have any obvious leaks. I know it's not quite statistically significant yet but it should be enough.
Please man tell me how can i get that beatiful red-line?
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01-28-2009 , 05:45 PM
Here are some things from my month back into poker in about a year. It's been a little rough, I just thought I would check up on what you guys thinks of these stats:






Thanks!
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01-28-2009 , 05:46 PM
His redline doesnt refer to non-showdown winnings unfortunately
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01-29-2009 , 01:59 AM
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His redline doesnt refer to non-showdown winnings unfortunately
Sklansky bucks= Non-showdown winnings.
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01-29-2009 , 09:05 AM
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Sklansky bucks= Non-showdown winnings.
No
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01-29-2009 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LordDante
Sklansky bucks= Non-showdown winnings.
The fact that the red and blue lines don't add up the green one should have tipped you off.
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01-29-2009 , 04:02 PM
Hey ive been playing for around 7 months got the pokertracker trial around a month ago these are my stats and graph. 28k hands at 10nl.

I dont really know if im any good as i cant win consistantly at all and any help will be greatly received, thanks.

My positional stats.


My graphs.


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01-30-2009 , 10:16 AM
If anyone could help me with my game by looking over my stats id greatly apreciate it thanks.
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01-30-2009 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mercwithamouth
If anyone could help me with my game by looking over my stats id greatly apreciate it thanks.
At first blush I would say you are not playing enough hands. I love playing against 12/7 players, because when they come and play, they have a hand. If I have a really strong hand I will try to stack them, but I never ever call down light or put a lot of money in the pot with TPTK and less. You need to loosen up. Try adding more hands on the BTN and CO, also raise more, especially if there are limpers in front. You are also CC to much in position preflop. You have position and a hand worth playing, you should be 3-betting more. You can call a raise with low pocket pairs, but if you have big broadway cards, you need to 3-bet more and cold call less. Your WTSD% is high, but that could be because you have such tight pre-flop standards your hand is worth seeing a showdown, but 30% is high and you should pay attention to that as you increase your pre-flop range.
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01-30-2009 , 11:34 AM
Say i have 2 limpers who have acted before me whats my range to raise them with?? Should i treat there limp as a fold and just raise my normal range plus suited conectors and hands like KJo, A10o an such.

On the 3 bet thing i just dont think im gonna get value if im gonna get called by 1 or more players if im 3 betting with say KQo, i play tight becuase im trying to keep things simple as im not that good at poker yet.

Im alot more loose when i play HU becuase i only have one person to worry about.

thanks for the reply Vern btw
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01-30-2009 , 02:51 PM
It depends on who the limpers are, but in general if I would open raise (other than a steal attempt) I will be raising limpers. However, there are always exceptions. e.g. A short stacked showdown monkey in the BB might keep me from raising the bottom of my range unless the limpers were very loose. I strongly echo the advise elsewhere in this forum, read the stickies, and only add a little at a time. Look at the hands you play from the button, make notes and add a couple of hands of lesser strength and raise with the strong hands you just limped behind or CC with before. Get a feel for that, then rinse and repeat. Making drastic changes to your play will be bad. Adjusting slowly makes it a lot less awkward and easier to find a good comfort zone.

3-bets serve many purposes. One, everyone may fold and you win pot pre-flop. Two, they call, leaving you in the lead (and most often in position). Three, what they do in response to a three bet can really reduce the range of hands they hold. One is nice, three helps play post flop, but two is where the money is. It is big pot, you have the initiative and usually you will have the lead. With position you can maximize your win and minimize your loss in a big pot.

Example: You hold KTs on the button, a 24/16 player open raises 4xbb from MP. He has a 75% fold a 3-bet stat. That means his calling range for your 3-bet is the best 4% of his hands.
16% of hands 22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,ATo+,KQo
4% of his hands TT+,AQs+,AKo
You bet 16 bb to win the 5.5 in the pot. Lets assume that every time he calls or raises you lost the pot. 3 times you win 5.5 bb (16.5bb) and one time you lost 16bb, that is an instant long term winning of 0.5bb every time you do it. (that is an instant win rate of 50bb/100). So just myopically looking at just pre-flop we are ahead doing this with ATC against this guy. But now lets look at post flop. If he calls I start to discount QQ+ and AKs. If he calls with that, he is already a bad player unless the stacks are really deep, but anyway, that means he called with a range like TT-JJ, AKo, AQs. KTs is behind this range, so you have to play cautiously. I would CB just about any flop, but will fold to a c/r or a donk bet unless I hit the flop hard.

So 3-betting with KTs to 16bb, even if you planned to muck it if called or 4-bet, is still a winning play against this opponent. Against an opponent that has a raise of 4% and a fold to a 3-bet less than 50%, the same play would be foolish with KTs, but I would be more inclined to hit that opponent with a larger 3-bet if I held KK-AA.

Note, I used 16bb 3-bet (4x the original raise) but often with the button against a 24/16 I would only 3x his original raise if I was three betting. Decent players will fold just as often to 3x as 4x, especially if they are OOP. Against a true PF Lag 40/30 type, or if an LP 80/2 has limped or called the original raise, I will be more than happy to 3-bet >= 4x since they are more likely to call me when they am behind. OOP, I almost always 3-bet 4x original, because I don't want to play post flop. And I only 3-bet preflop OOP for value (~top 2%), or because everyone in the hand has shown a decent tendency to fold to a 3-bet.

Last edited by Vern; 01-30-2009 at 02:58 PM. Reason: Grammar is tough
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01-30-2009 , 03:36 PM
hey need some help !!!! I play at a 5max game and I just cant seem to get anything going . Ive got allot of coolers but I still fell that Im making allot of errors.

PLease I need some help , thank you .









If there is more stats that would help with your analysis I would bemore then happy to post them tank you again and take care everyone
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01-30-2009 , 05:31 PM
bump
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01-30-2009 , 07:05 PM
hi i 6 table 10NL 6max ... and im struggling..
i would also prefer it to have chat with someone via msn or s.th. like that to improve my stats !

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01-31-2009 , 12:36 PM
if you need more stats from me id be happy to post more !
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01-31-2009 , 01:18 PM
so obviously its very oponent dependant on whether to 3 bet with a lower range or not.

so ill have to really pay attention to players habits and get some stats on them.

thanks for the reply vern cheers.
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01-31-2009 , 07:00 PM
I was hoping someone could help me with my NL10 stats. After running the leak reports on HEM I think most of them look fine, but I am a little concerned about my button play and my non showdown winnings. Is there anything else that looks abnormal that I could fix? Any help would be most appreciated!

Overall:


Position Stats:


Showdown Report:


Holecards - Big Winners:


Holecards - Big Losers:


Graph:
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02-01-2009 , 05:45 AM
Help me oh wise stats gurus!!

Ok i cant figure out how to post a graph, but over 36k hands of mainly 25 with some 50nl, my red line has steadily gone down to be -940. Im still a winning player, but only marginally, it is ridiculous when I see people with positive or even break even red lines.

HELP!!!

VPIP- 19.6
PFR- 14.8
Pstflop agg- 2.38
3 bet- 5.2
W$sf%- 39.5
WTSD%- 24.9
won $ at SD- 49.1
Flop Cbet%- 59.3
Turn Cbet%- 56.3
River Cbet%- 67.7
Fold to flop Cbet- 55.5
Fold to Turn Cbet- 40.0
Fold to river cbet- 34.6

Any obvious reasons? Its tilting me!!
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02-01-2009 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mattmoe
hey need some help !!!! I play at a 5max game and I just cant seem to get anything going . Ive got allot of coolers but I still fell that Im making allot of errors.

PLease I need some help , thank you .









If there is more stats that would help with your analysis I would bemore then happy to post them tank you again and take care everyone
hey guys some help would really be appreciated thank you
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02-01-2009 , 03:45 PM
Matt your stats look very very good, its probally some postflop leaks you may have.

I would work on my blind play also, your leaking there more than nessasary, you also only 3betting 4% from the BB, which is fine if your uncomfortable but vs a loose opener don't be afraid to jack up tt-22,kq etc.
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02-01-2009 , 04:11 PM
Hey guys, I've been playing some 25nl 6max recently after playing FR for a year or so, I only have 10k hands (tiny sample I know) but I'd like to know if I have any glaring leaks. fwiw I play pretty LAGish (20/16) at FR so I'm kinda surprised my 6max stats are so similar...







thanks
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02-01-2009 , 04:15 PM
your probally running a tad bad due to your low wtsd+low w$sd, stats look good I'd open up the 3betting a bit.
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02-01-2009 , 05:00 PM
um, so i think something's wrong here:





these are at 2nl buying in for $5....~25k hands. anyone have any advice/ideas/anything?
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