ok i got a guy 3betting from BB vs BTN open 32% out of 41 occurrences in a little over 500 hands. i mean every time i open btn he 3bets. how do we tackle this guy? yea leave the table, but hes a reg and i see him often around and theres a whale to my direct right so its good. whats our 4betting range and how often do we need to do it to make it profitable?

^Don't leave the table if there's a whale. If there's a reason to fight for pots then fight for them.

If he has that wide of a 3bet from the BB, then he's gonna have a super weak 3betting range. Start by tightening up your opening range and then just start 4bet bluffing him a couple of times. If he adjusts by 5b-bluffing a wide range, stop 4bet bluffing and 4bet/call a wider range.

ok thanks. i did 4bet him a couple of times and he snap folded. unfortunately the whale left, so the table broke up, lol.

bet/fold
shove
c/f
c/c river?

im playing without a hud, only maybe 20 hands into session, been very tightish
thoughts, all draws missed, so was thinking c/c, then i thought, meh, lets get max value and c/jam
i thought his betting range was tons of burst draws, meh

relooking, given board texture, flop+turn should be bigger?

MicroGaming - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: €18.79
CO: €15.59
BTN: €17.68
SB: €18.66
BB: €15.25
Hero (UTG): €10.15

SB posts SB €0.05, BB posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (€0.15) Hero has A Q

Hero raises to €0.40, MP calls €0.40, CO calls €0.40, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (€1.35, 3 players) T 9 A
Hero bets €0.80, MP calls €0.80, fold

Turn: (€2.95, 2 players) 6
Hero bets €2.10, MP calls €2.10

River: (€7.15, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, MP bets €3.50, Hero raises to €6.85 and is all-in, MP calls €3.35

Villain is 44/5/1.3 AF f2cb 50 over 250 hands. I might have just totally spewed away here but I'm really not afraid of anything but a few combos of trips and JQ. Do we just fold the turn unless we have reads that he could play Jx by just potting and like protecting or value betting or whatever many fish try to do in these kinds of spots?

NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
SB ($17.79)
Hero ($23.54)
UTG ($21.15)
UTG+1 ($20.90)
CO ($21.88)
BTN ($3.68)

Dealt to Hero J A

fold, fold, CO calls $0.20, fold, SB calls $0.10, Hero raises to $1.20, CO calls $1, fold

FLOP ($2.60) J 3 3

Hero bets $2, CO raises to $4, Hero calls $2

TURN ($10.60) J 3 3 Q

Hero checks, CO bets $10.60, Hero raises to $18.34 (AI), CO calls $6.08 (AI)

C/c or b/f river as a std mark. I think both are fine, I'd lean towards b/f if they were more passive. You can chk/shove with reads that they're a fish but it's probably spewy vs an unknown tag.

You have 250 hands on this guy... You should know what his flop raises mean by now.

I'd fold turn readless. You don't need much of a read to stack off on the turn.

Look all right? (also posted this in uBBV)

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BTN: $10.15 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 26, 3B: 14, AF: Infinity, Hands: 39
SB: $10.61 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 8, 3B: 11, AF: 2.0, Hands: 36
Hero (BB): $10.40
UTG: $22.46 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 34
CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 14

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K A
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.70) 2 5 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.60, SB calls $1.60

Turn: ($5.90) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.90) A (2 players)
SB bets $2.85, Hero calls $2.85

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you can check flop if the guy is passive, but as played it's fine

would you fold to this 3bet?

villain: had about 47 hands on him; was running decent 22/20 afq 39%, this was his first 3bet. i put him on strong range but i thought i had good enough odds to call here.

UTG was a fish.

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SB ($10.14)
BB ($10.15)
UTG ($9.10)
UTG+1 ($3.90)
CO ($10.15)
Hero ($12.88)

Dealt to Hero J A

UTG raises to $0.20, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.70, SB raises to $1.75, fold, fold, Hero ???

Fold to the 4bet, you cannot expect him to spazz like that when you hit and are way behind his 4betting range..

3bet slightly bigger.

how do we play ott here? and what would we do otr if we c/c ott again? going for c/r otr is kinda tricky and we miss ton of value when he cheks back, donking out seems ******ed too. but turn c/r makes him fold almost everything. whats our best line here? only got 25 hands on villain and looks more regish than fishy.


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BB ($3.80)
UTG ($9.65)
UTG+1 ($3.02)
CO ($5.70)
BTN ($10)

Dealt to Hero 6 6

UTG raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.35, fold

FLOP ($0.90) 2 3 2

Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

TURN ($1.90) 2 3 2 6

Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $2.99, UTG folds

Hero shows 6 6

Hero wins $3.64

also, his betsizing kida indicated weakness here, and i know you can't make him have a hand to pay off, but in this particular spot one could even fold overpair to a c/c c/r line, amirite?

Entraction $4.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players


Hero (SB): $4.00 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 2.7, Hands: 9101
BB: $4.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 0.4, Hands: 80
UTG: $3.96 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 19, 3B: 17, AF: Infinity, Hands: 16
MP: $1.97 - VPIP: 44, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 9
CO: $5.34 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 38, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 16
BTN: $3.71 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 16

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is SB with K T
2 folds, CO raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.06, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.20) 8 5 T (2 players)
Hero bets $0.14, CO calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.48) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, CO folds

Betsize good or should i bet flop 80%, stil its a very drawheavy board so i didnt want to invest that much money, about 60% i thought was fine.

rush villain is 29/5 aggro 2.8 over 68 hands. his river aggro frequency is a 65% (9 hands)

how does this look?

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BB ($10)
UTG ($10.14)
UTG+1 ($10.27)
CO ($17.83)
Hero ($13.62)

Dealt to Hero 6 A , UTG calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.35

FLOP ($1.05) Q J 9

UTG checks, Hero bets $0.79, UTG calls $0.79

TURN ($2.63) Q J 9 J

UTG checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($2.63) Q J 9 J K

UTG bets $1.55, Hero raises to $4.21, UTG raises to $8.90 (AI), Hero folds

UTG wins $10.32

Depends on his river aggression, c/c turn is fine, c/r is also fine but c/c is probably better if he's more aggressive on rivers. C/r is good if he's usually passive (cause it means he has a stronger range for betting turn).

You don't want to donklead the river if you c/c the turn. He doesn't have many value hands usually anyway when he bets twice, and you want his air to carry bluffing. The hands that call your river donklead are usually valuebetting themselves anyway, (if he has a high river AFq) but will almost never raise.

Pre is thin-ish. A lot of people would serve better playing 3b/fold with KTs from the SB.

Sizing on both streets are fine if you choose to donklead.

bink. I call river. Vs. aggro villain he could be shoving Tx there. He would probably try to get it OTF if he had QJ or 99.

woah, call. Your villain has so much in his range here that you beat and its $4 into $14

I wouldnt fold to his 3 bet but I would fold on the turn. I think you just got lucky this time villain was spazzing out.

Villain is 30/19 over 30 or so hands, not in full or reloading. Likely fish. Given the bvb dynamic, villain repping narrow and him potentially having a potato for a brain are we cool with this?

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Hero ($55.65)
BB ($37.65)
UTG ($113)
UTG+1 ($55.09)
CO ($113)
BTN ($110)

Dealt to Hero 9 J

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

FLOP ($3) 3 6 J

Hero bets $2, BB raises to $5.50, Hero calls $3.50

TURN ($14) 3 6 J 3

Hero checks, BB bets $7.25, Hero calls $7.25

RIVER ($28.50) 3 6 J 3 2

Hero checks, BB bets $23.40 (AI), Hero calls $23.40

Don't call someone down readless with TPWK, fold flop!

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MP: $9.94
CO: $14.91
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $13.94
BB: $10.15
UTG: $19.17

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with Q A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) K K T (2 players)
MP bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.55) 4 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, MP folds

Standard? I don't float much.

ok thanks, i didnt really know about his river aggression, because i only had like 25 hands on him, thats why i choose the standard line c/c, c/r, and also because of the fact he bet so small ott i just figured he wont fire river 3rd time.

ok thanks, i was definitely lucky in that hand but once we call the flop bet i think we're priced in ott with only 100bb deep, no? my default is usually fold pre is situation like this.

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1167571
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SB: $19.37
BB: $10.00
UTG: $6.34
Hero (MP): $5.07
CO: $5.00
BTN: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with J A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.45) K A 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.05) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls $0.75

River: ($2.55) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Value on turn??

is this a fold 100% of the time? do we just believe they're that schitty? is cbet better?

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SB ($10.38)
Hero ($10)
CO ($29.84)
BTN ($5.26)

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, BTN raises to $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $1.10, BTN calls $0.80

FLOP ($2.25) K 9 K

Hero checks, BTN checks

TURN ($2.25) K 9 K 6

Hero bets $1.20, BTN raises to $2.40, Hero raises to $8.90 (AI), BTN calls $1.76 (AI)

RIVER ($10.57) K 9 K 6 J

BTN shows K 3
(Pre 16%, Flop 91.4%, Turn 95.5%)

Hero shows A A
(Pre 84%, Flop 8.6%, Turn 4.5%)

BTN wins $9.87

This is fine.

He's half stacked, bet flop, jam turn and never fold.

Standard vs unknow?

Dont see what he donks pot for value with looks like a draw setting a price when he ship do we have to call?

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SB ($42.29)
damiandld_‚__‚ ($22.45)
UTG ($20)
UTG+1 ($20)
Hero ($32.52)
BTN ($8.28)

Dealt to Hero K K

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.70, fold, fold, damiandld_‚__‚ calls $0.50

FLOP ($1.50) Q 8 J

damiandld_‚__‚ bets $1.50, Hero raises to $5, damiandld_‚__‚ raises to $21.75 (AI), Hero calls $16.75

TURN ($45) Q 8 J 5

RIVER ($45) Q 8 J 5 2

Hero shows K K
(Pre 87%, Flop 28.7%, Turn 18.2%)

damiandld_‚__‚ shows Q J
(Pre 13%, Flop 71.3%, Turn 81.8%)

damiandld_‚__‚ wins $42.75

ok thanks. how about this one? where do we fold? or just 3bet jam flop ? meh either way, im behind and fish got lucky again. or did he? maybe he leveled the schitt out of me? am i that transparent? can fishes see right thru me every time i bet and haz it?

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SB ($5.30)
Hero ($12.21)
UTG ($9.63)
UTG+1 ($3.12)
CO ($6.36)
BTN ($7.39)

Dealt to Hero K A

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.20, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.90, CO calls $0.70

FLOP ($1.85) T J A

Hero bets $1.30, CO raises to $2.60, Hero calls $1.30

TURN ($7.05) T J A 5

Hero checks, CO bets $2.86 (AI), Hero calls $2.86

RIVER ($12.77) T J A 5 9

Hero shows K A
(Pre 76%, Flop 25.2%, Turn 11.4%)

CO shows A J
(Pre 24%, Flop 74.8%, Turn 88.6%)

CO wins $11.92


i keep hearing around and reading in some book im doing atm, how these gray area hands don't really contribute nor cut back your winrate that much and yet i keep losing with hands like these. my biggest losers are hands like these and if i eliminated these my wr would be much nicer. and who knows, maybe i wouldn't even tilt as much. every time is the same, either end or start of session goes badly wrong and neutralizes my winnings in 2 hands like these or i have to rostucko all day long from hands like these. ist just unnecessery stress and variance. im just open shoving AJs+, JJ+ from now on. let these bastards get lucky from behind, not trapping me with schitted flop. maybe ill start shortstacking for a while and just shove 25% range from start. ill go two stakes up and sh w 25bbs. one street. one chart. hand fits? shove. no questions asked. would this be profitable?

if someone sweated me who never played or saw poker before would say, so he wins who does the most ******ed thing?