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06-07-2014 , 12:11 PM
NH imo. I think there is no reason for check that turn.
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06-07-2014 , 12:12 PM
Fold river?

    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    SB: $1.94 (97 bb)
    BB: $2.79 (139.5 bb)
    UTG: $2.50 (125 bb)
    MP: $1.94 (97 bb)
    Hero (CO): $2 (100 bb)
    BTN: $2.16 (108 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, BTN folds, SB calls $0.15, BB folds, MP calls $0.12

    Flop: ($0.50) K T 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.34, SB folds, MP calls $0.34

    Turn: ($1.18) 2 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $0.70, MP calls $0.70

    River: ($2.58) 4 (2 players)
    MP bets $0.74 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $2.58 pot ($0.09 rake)
    Final Board: K T 2 2 4
    MP mucked and won $2.49 ($1.29 net)
    Hero mucked A K and lost (-$1.20 net)



      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      Hero (SB): $2.31 (115.5 bb)
      BB: $2.68 (134 bb)
      UTG: $2 (100 bb)
      MP: $2.01 (100.5 bb)
      CO: $2.11 (105.5 bb)
      BTN: $3.95 (197.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T T
      3 folds, BTN calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, BB folds, BTN calls $0.08

      Flop: ($0.22) 7 9 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.14, BTN raises to $0.28, Hero calls $0.14

      Turn: ($0.78) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      River: ($0.78) 6 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $0.74, Hero calls $0.74

      Spoiler:
      Results: $2.26 pot ($0.08 rake)
      Final Board: 7 9 5 7 6
      Hero mucked T T and lost (-$1.12 net)
      BTN showed 8 7 and won $2.18 ($1.06 net)
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      06-07-2014 , 12:54 PM
      First hand 3bet is pretty big IP, but if u think he calls wide then its fine. Have to call river. Pot odds far too good
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      06-07-2014 , 12:58 PM
      Second hand u can probably lead out half pot or ao on river to gt value from his 9x hands . As played ita prob a fold as that board hits his limp/call range pretty well, and he probably wont value bet a 9 in that spot
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      06-08-2014 , 09:05 PM
      Would this be a good spot to check behind? Is it better to CBet this flop OOP than IP? If it is a good spot to check behind, how low of a mid-pair wouldn't you check behind to protect against overcards on turn?

      Merge - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: $22.25 (VPIP: 76.47, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
      Hero (BB): $50.00

      SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J J

      fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $1.00, Hero raises to $3.00, SB calls $2.00

      Flop: ($6.00, 2 players) Q 3 7
      SB checks, Hero checks
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      06-09-2014 , 02:45 PM
      Bet this flop imo, we cant always be scared of overcards, and we are very often in front. When we give up the initiative here a turn bet by V can be a little meh. What is your plan for the hand if you xb here?
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      06-09-2014 , 03:22 PM
      I'm not checking because I'm scared of an overcard. I'm checking behind on flop to induce bluffs or lighter calls. If he has a Q checking behind doesn't change much. The value from checking comes from the times they bluff or call light with smaller pocket pairs.

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      06-09-2014 , 05:28 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by RFoley03
      I'm not checking because I'm scared of an overcard. I'm checking behind on flop to induce bluffs or lighter calls. If he has a Q checking behind doesn't change much. The value from checking comes from the times they bluff or call light with smaller pocket pairs.

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      So you are never betting the best hand, to show that you are weak, just to hope that V will try to bluff at it or call you lightly?
      I would bet this because some draws and other worse hands will call, and that will give you just as much money as calling their bluffs..
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      06-09-2014 , 11:50 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by BullyNW
      So you are never betting the best hand, to show that you are weak, just to hope that V will try to bluff at it or call you lightly?
      I would bet this because some draws and other worse hands will call, and that will give you just as much money as calling their bluffs..
      My thinking is that all the hands that we get value from on the flop, we will still get value on the turn. By checking we can get value from villains air hands when he bluffs. Other benefits of checking are you Minimize loss and Pot control. If this isn't a good spot to check behind a SDV hand, what is? SplitSuit has a similar hand example in his book and he says to check behind with JJ on a K54r flop for the same reasons I mentioned.
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      06-10-2014 , 04:37 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by RFoley03
      My thinking is that all the hands that we get value from on the flop, we will still get value on the turn. By checking we can get value from villains air hands when he bluffs. Other benefits of checking are you Minimize loss and Pot control. If this isn't a good spot to check behind a SDV hand, what is? SplitSuit has a similar hand example in his book and he says to check behind with JJ on a K54r flop for the same reasons I mentioned.
      And this is exactly the reason you should double barrel any non club and any card J or lower. Why would you miss out on value?

      Checking is fine aswell, and I understand your reasoning. But i would just bet this flop for value.
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      06-10-2014 , 04:47 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by RFoley03
      I'm not checking because I'm scared of an overcard. I'm checking behind on flop to induce bluffs or lighter calls. If he has a Q checking behind doesn't change much. The value from checking comes from the times they bluff or call light with smaller pocket pairs.

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      If you are checking, which you shouldn't be because he's a fish. Then check JcJx.

      Easy bet/bet/check.
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      06-10-2014 , 10:22 AM
      If villain was a decent tag would checking be better?

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      06-11-2014 , 12:54 PM
        [hand_history]

        Hero (BTN): $21.73 (217.3 bb)
        SB: $21.29 (212.9 bb)
        BB: $10.84 (108.4 bb)
        UTG: $10 (100 bb)
        MP: $9.17 (91.7 bb)
        CO: $10.46 (104.6 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
        UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.90, 2 folds, MP raises to $9.17 and is all-in, Hero folds



        villain 15/10 over 49 hands.
        AF, 3b => 0

        villain insta shoved. i did not annoy him yet.
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        06-11-2014 , 01:06 PM
        I think you can fold this..unless you have a reason to believe villain is tilted from a previous hand. Usually flipping at best here
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        06-11-2014 , 01:10 PM
        calling for 92bb. not big enough sample to draw conclusions.
        info on whether it's zoom or reg tables would help here.
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        06-11-2014 , 03:50 PM
        Merge - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        CO: $61.32 (VPIP: 43.53, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 86)
        BTN: $61.97 (VPIP: 26.45, PFR: 21.66, 3Bet Preflop: 5.63, Hands: 407)
        SB: $35.56 (VPIP: 53.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
        Hero (BB): $53.23
        UTG: $21.63 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

        SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A Q

        UTG raises to $1.50, fold, fold, SB calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.00

        Flop: ($4.50, 3 players) 4 5 3
        SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $2.25, SB calls $2.25, fold

        Should I be folding AQ here vs a short stack unknown? What dynamics make flatting better than folding and vice versa?
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        06-12-2014 , 02:13 PM
        Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2521894
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        BTN: $3.59
        SB: $5.19
        Hero (BB): $4.50
        UTG: $4.93
        MP: $5.56
        CO: $12.42

        Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 7 7
        2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10

        Flop: ($0.32) 9 2 9 (2 players)
        Hero checks, CO bets $0.23, Hero calls $0.23

        Turn: ($0.78) 6 (2 players)
        Hero checks, CO bets $0.56, Hero calls $0.56

        River: ($1.90) 9 (2 players)
        Hero checks, CO bets $1.65, Hero calls $1.65
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        06-12-2014 , 03:54 PM
        Well played I think
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        06-12-2014 , 04:12 PM
        I meant to ask should I be folding preflop.
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        06-12-2014 , 04:42 PM
        Sorry should have clarified. Rfoley calling preflop is fine. Fold flop though.
        Callaway I think its well played. Sometimes u can find a fold here vs a tighter player
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        06-12-2014 , 04:58 PM
        Hihi guys!

        I played that hand earlier and I don't really know how I should have reacted. I'm totally lost when I'm getting min raised.

        Villain is 19/18 over 300 hands and folded a ton to 3bet so far so I decided to 3 bet him since I have two blockers.


          Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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          BB: $1.95 (48.8 bb)
          SB: $4.83 (120.8 bb)
          UTG: $7.60 (190 bb)
          Hero (BTN): $6.54 (163.5 bb)
          CO: $7.22 (180.5 bb)
          MP: $2.79 (69.8 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with K Q
          UTG folds, MP raises to $0.12, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.36, 2 folds, MP calls $0.24

          Flop: ($0.78) Q J T (2 players)
          MP checks, Hero bets $0.52, MP raises to $1.04, Hero



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          06-12-2014 , 05:02 PM
          Pre is good.

          Flop is the easiest X ever.
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          06-12-2014 , 07:17 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Yoshimiii
          Pre is good.

          Flop is the easiest X ever.
          I do not agree on this, why would we check and give free cards to a V we could be easily ahead of atm.

          AP call flop, and fold to all turn agression on any or K
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          06-13-2014 , 09:08 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Yoshimiii
          Pre is good.

          Flop is the easiest X ever.
          Why would you check on the flop w/ top pair + OESD into a 3bet pot ??
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          06-14-2014 , 02:18 PM
          Merge - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

          MP+1: $48.25 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
          MP+2: $42.07 (VPIP: 45.33, PFR: 5.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 150)
          CO: $84.87 (VPIP: 21.50, PFR: 3.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.79, Hands: 401)
          Hero (BTN): $95.34
          SB: $83.78 (VPIP: 14.14, PFR: 7.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 101)
          BB: $50.47 (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 13.73, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 103)
          UTG: $42.25 (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 10.34, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
          UTG+1: $20.00 (VPIP: 12.94, PFR: 8.79, 3Bet Preflop: 3.16, Hands: 825)
          MP: $48.80 (VPIP: 56.60, PFR: 3.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)

          SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

          Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has K K

          fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls $0.50, CO raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $8.00, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $31.00, Hero?,

          I'm leaning towards folding because he's only raising strong hands and I don't think he would 4bet QQ. Are stacks too big to call?
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