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07-17-2012 , 04:32 AM
Here are my stats for my 1st month of 25nl zoom. Not sure if this is an ok winrate for zoom, but would be very greatful if anyone could point out any leaks which may improve it, thanks in advance.
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Last edited by xvegasdreamx; 07-17-2012 at 04:38 AM.
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07-18-2012 , 02:59 PM
Ok here are some reposts with better pictures.


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By jmaurer777 at 2012-07-18
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07-18-2012 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WarDance13
Ok here are some reposts with better pictures.


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By jmaurer777 at 2012-07-18
I just had a quick view on your stats and there are some possible things to workout:

- The gap between your VPIP and PFR is significant, you should raise more the hands that you are going to play, specially In Position.
- The blinds steal % is somehow lower.
- One positive thing is your 3bet preflop, I think it is a good number (3%).
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07-19-2012 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WarDance13
Ok here are some reposts with better pictures.
Cold call of 16% is too high - don't just think about your cards, think about your position and villain's range and if he might pay you off if you hit.

Easy example - if you have 22 in the small blind facing a button steal from a reg, his range is too wide to pay you off if you flop your set, so calling just to setmine probably won't be profitable. If he folds to 3bets often, you can 3bet (although this particular hand has very little equity if he decides to call), but usually just fold.
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07-20-2012 , 05:09 AM
I am on a pretty monotone downswing at NL10 for the last 12k hands.
I do not know if it is variance or just playing badly.

Unfortunately I cannot figure it out, because I corrupted my old db so I cannot compare with my old stat. I'm not sure if I just play bad, scared or whatever or just on a downswing.

Any comment or help welcome


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07-20-2012 , 06:07 AM
bigdog: It would be helpful if you also posted your overall stats (not broken down by position).

First impression: You lose way too much without showdown. It looks like you cbet the flop too liberally, and then only continue if you have a hand. This could be exploited, and looking at your results it probably is. Try to harmonise flop and turn play by cbetting less on the flop, and throwing in some double barrels with equity.
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07-20-2012 , 05:03 PM
Alright 2+2. Have fun ripping on me telling me everything I'm doing wrong. Just need all the feedback I can get and all help is appreciated

First off, I realize my VPIP and PFR are way to wide of a range. This is because I would Limp-Call with pocket pairs. Anything else you can tell me is greatly appreciated.

Girrafe:



Stats:



Position:

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07-20-2012 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben Rob
Was this meant for the 6-max forum?

In any case, yes, your VPIP/PFR spread is too high as you've pointed out. Also, you're lacking positional awareness.
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07-20-2012 , 06:41 PM
Sorry yea it was for 6 max.
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07-20-2012 , 07:33 PM
is this just a standard downswing? i was definitely spewing here and there on the downswing due to tilt, but ive worked on my game a lot during that time but ive worked on it a lot

as the graph shows im going back up over last 2k hands so i hope that means im getting back on running even and playing good





these are my stats from what i hope is the bottom of this swing (26k of 28k hands) so stats ahvent changed much over 2k hands




am I on track to make 25nl? I would like to work up to $500 at 10nl before taking a 25nl shot but I dont know how many hands that will take at 10nl and whether or not im playing good enough (site traffic is bad half the day so my volume is a problem, thinking of starting another 10nl br on stars to increase volume)
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07-24-2012 , 03:57 AM
Do I have to save my stats/graph to photobucket before I can post it ? I can't seem to figure it out .
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07-24-2012 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Chavez
Do I have to save my stats/graph to photobucket before I can post it ? I can't seem to figure it out .
Yes.
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07-24-2012 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by B Champman
is this just a standard downswing? i was definitely spewing here and there on the downswing due to tilt, but ive worked on my game a lot during that time but ive worked on it a lot

as the graph shows im going back up over last 2k hands so i hope that means im getting back on running even and playing good

am I on track to make 25nl? I would like to work up to $500 at 10nl before taking a 25nl shot but I dont know how many hands that will take at 10nl and whether or not im playing good enough (site traffic is bad half the day so my volume is a problem, thinking of starting another 10nl br on stars to increase volume)
I think is a pretty normal downswing, probably some things to workout on your game too. I read that downswings of more than 10/12 buy-ins in cash games are normal. I also have experienced a 10 buy-ins downswing.

Your number of hands sample is also small, anything less than 100k hands I think is not significant.

I think $500 for NL25 is a little risky, it's only 20 buy-ins. I consider 40 buy-ins. But you are the one who should evaluate this. A 10 buy-in downswing at NL25 will "eat" your bankroll in half unless you make a stop loss.
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07-25-2012 , 01:02 AM


Alright this is all I could figure out to do at this time . I don't think the money graph really matters but I can post it if need be .
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07-27-2012 , 02:19 AM
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Any specific leaks? Yeah winrate's kind of ****ty, probably due to the daily 5bet bluff shoves~ The triple checkraise bluff AI. ~ the works. Of course 72o AIpf. So yeah like 10-20; 10 bi downswings here n there. Boatload of 5bi downswings, and like 3-4 20bi downswings.

Total by stakes is last 4 months.
By position is last 3 months.

Few questions
1) not sure If WWSF is too low. . it's basically 40 tops. . Not sure if this means it's a leak.
2)Flop cbet pretty much is never over 50% once again, not sure If It's a huge leak, but I see tons of successful fullring players cbetting 55-65 with same success rate as I do at 50%. .
3)Good enough Sample @ 50nl to start breaking balls at 100? or stick round for a bit longer. . .
4)What's a typical winrates as far as 100nl/50nl zoom regs out there go for a good sample?
5). How's 100nl different than 50nl?

Cool Thanks in advance guys
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07-28-2012 , 11:37 AM




My first post here, and my first 10k hands at stars 2NL. I realise the sample is only barely the accepted minimum for posting here, but hopefully there's enough for at least some meaningful comment.

Things I have learned on my own, all in retrospect very obvious:
1) I am terrible at poker.
2) Downswings suck.
3) Upswings don't!
4) 77 isn't as good as I would like it to be.

My position table looks a bit erratic. I'm not sure how meaningful that is with only ~1k hands per position, but I should probably be a bit tighter from (all positions, but especially) the button - also, I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone tells me I'm doing unrealistically well from BB.

Looking at other people's graphs from earlier in the thread, my red and blue lines seem... the wrong way round. I'm not sure what to make of that - is it an indication of thousands of leaks? Is it entirely unsustainable? Is it purely down to style, and not a cause for concern? I have no idea. Regardless, I think the thing I most like seeing in the graph is the point at ~8k hands when, after thinking about pot odds for a while, I upped my standard cbet from 1/2pot to 2/3 pot. There's a very visible jump in redline gradient, which in the short term gives me a nice "I was right!" feeling, even if it isn't perfectly reflected in my green line.

That's really all I have to say. There are a lot of numbers here I can't really interpret properly due to not really knowing what would be "correct", so any feedback is very welcome.
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07-29-2012 , 05:18 PM
Hello.
I am new member and i need some help/advice with my stats. I am playing 5NL NLH and as you can see the results are not good.
Thanks you for your time.
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Total Hands:37622
Net Won: -5,98
bb/100:-0,32
VPIP:17,49
PFR:12,28
PFR/VPIP Ratio :70,21
3Bet : 2,98
CC% :7,52
Flop CBet% : 70,39
Flop CBet% Success :52,26
WTSD% :23,57
W$SD% :46,78
W$atSD :123,04 $
W$WSF :42,46
Agg Flop :3,06
Agg Turn :3,81
Agg River :2,31
Agg :2,41
BB Fold to Steal :83,41
SB Fold to Steal :90,15
Button Steal Success :65,50
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07-29-2012 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthip@s
VPIP:17,49
PFR:12,28
PFR/VPIP Ratio :70,21
CC% :7,52
Your cold call is probably on the high side. There's nothing wildly wrong with the VPIP and PFR (although the ratio is right at the lower end of ok), but you might have more success playing slightly tighter until you're consistently winning and have developed your postflop game.

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Flop CBet% : 70,39
Flop CBet% Success :52,26
Flop c-bet is slightly high. Avoid c-betting without a good made hand on multi-way flops or on wet or low boards when no-one is folding.

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WTSD% :23,57
W$SD% :46,78
W$atSD :123,04 $
W$WSF :42,46
W$SD is below normal - you should be looking for just over 50%. Quite possibly running bad, but there are other potential reasons too (e.g. getting the wrong hands to showdown, or sizing your bets too large such that you're folding out hands that you should be getting value from and value-towning yourself when you're beat).
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07-30-2012 , 12:43 AM
Hands: 8k
VPIP: 15.4
PFR: 9.8
3Bet: 3.5
WTSD%: 24
W$SD: 51
Agg: 2.97
Agg%: 35.5
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07-30-2012 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by gasbreakhonk
Hands: 8k
VPIP: 15.4
PFR: 9.8
3Bet: 3.5
WTSD%: 24
W$SD: 51
Agg: 2.97
Agg%: 35.5
Too passive preflop.

Try to read the first page of this thread, and follow the suggestions to start analysing your own stats.
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07-30-2012 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave C
Your cold call is probably on the high side. There's nothing wildly wrong with the VPIP and PFR (although the ratio is right at the lower end of ok), but you might have more success playing slightly tighter until you're consistently winning and have developed your postflop game.



Flop c-bet is slightly high. Avoid c-betting without a good made hand on multi-way flops or on wet or low boards when no-one is folding.



W$SD is below normal - you should be looking for just over 50%. Quite possibly running bad, but there are other potential reasons too (e.g. getting the wrong hands to showdown, or sizing your bets too large such that you're folding out hands that you should be getting value from and value-towning yourself when you're beat).
OK. Thanks you for your comments. About CC% can you give me an example, or something to read about (a link or something else)?
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07-30-2012 , 09:49 AM
Hello, here is a sample of 117k hands played on ZOOM NL25 FR.

Could anyone please take a look and say where it looks bad.




Thanks a ton.
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07-30-2012 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthip@s
OK. Thanks you for your comments. About CC% can you give me an example, or something to read about (a link or something else)?
There's a COTW about cold calling...
concept-week-5-basic-cold-calling
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07-31-2012 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Gytiz
Hello, here is a sample of 117k hands played on ZOOM NL25 FR.

Could anyone please take a look and say where it looks bad.

Thanks a ton.
To me the winrate in late position looks bad. Try examining your stealing and cold-calling to see if you can make it more profitable.
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07-31-2012 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave C
There's a COTW about cold calling...
concept-week-5-basic-cold-calling
Thanks you. As you can see i am new member, so i dont know where to find something. Thanks you again.
Also if there is enything else you can tell me, i will be waiting.
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