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Set vs Turn Raise Set vs Turn Raise

07-19-2014 , 05:18 PM
Villian TAG (491 hands)

20 Vpip
16 PFR
3,7 AF
27 WTSD
68 W$SD
100 C/R turn (this one only)





    SB: $11.04 (110.4 bb)
    BB: $27.78 (277.8 bb)
    UTG: $16.28 (162.8 bb)
    MP: $13.06 (130.6 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $10.73 (107.3 bb)
    : $6.50 (65 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2 2
    UTG raises to $0.40, MP folds, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds

    Flop: ($1.07) 9 Q 2 (3 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $0.52, UTG calls $0.52

    Turn: ($2.11) T (3 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $1.46, UTG raises to $3.88, Hero ¿?

    Preflop: How do you play preflop, do you prefer to do set mining or to 3bet?
    Flop: Should I'd beted 70% here? How do you see that 50% bet?
    Turn: As played what do you do OTT?


    Regards,
    SmK
    Set vs Turn Raise Quote
    07-19-2014 , 05:37 PM
    Post flop is irrelevant. Fold pre.
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    07-19-2014 , 05:42 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Coo-Coo-Kachoo
    Post flop is irrelevant. Fold pre.
    No way i'm folding 22 vs UTG's OR
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    07-19-2014 , 05:52 PM
    pre I usually call if there is weak players in the blinds or if we're somewhat deeper. vs good regs even if we hit we usually dont get stacks in.

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    07-19-2014 , 09:38 PM
    pre is fine. his line is so nutted it screams QQ, 99 or TT. what is his flop cbet?
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    07-20-2014 , 01:07 AM
    Call, call, and lose to KJ.

    Flop bet should be bigger. Turn can be bigger too.
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    07-20-2014 , 05:49 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wahesh95
    pre is fine. his line is so nutted it screams QQ, 99 or TT. what is his flop cbet?
    72% Fcbet
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    07-20-2014 , 08:54 PM
    in game I don't think I can fold. but can we potentially make a really nitty fold here. when someone with flop cbet of 72 x/c flop, then x/r turn, it's the nuts
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    07-21-2014 , 02:08 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Coo-Coo-Kachoo
    Post flop is irrelevant. Fold pre.
    Not only is this arrogant, it's not correct.

    Flop bet should be bigger. I call here and call most river bets on most reasonable rivers. Probably x/f on Js type rivers.
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    07-21-2014 , 03:31 AM
    Villain has bigger set here every day of the week, 52 weeks of the year.
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    07-21-2014 , 05:17 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Coo-Coo-Kachoo
    Post flop is irrelevant. Fold pre.
    This
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    07-21-2014 , 11:13 AM
    I don't mind a call as long as we fold to his turn raise.

    "ZOMG YERRR SUCH A NIT AND IT'S WRONG!"

    Listen.

    First off, this guy is a TAG on the verge of plain old tight. Do we really believe he is not cbetting this flop with AA/KK/KJ? AA and KK should want to get the money in. We should have a bunch of draws and one pair type hands on this flop against a UTG open. KJ, likewise, should bet it's equity. It has an overcard and a gutshot to nuts, plus it can fold out our Ax hands. Is KJ even in a tight player's UTG range? Same with JT and QJ.

    Villain should never have two pair hands OTF or OTT. The only feasible two pair hand for villain is T9, but then we still have to ask ourselves if villain would open T9 UTG.

    That leaves us with sets. QQ can probably x/c x/r a board like this for protection. Are you going to stab with KJ or JT here, or would you rather see a free card IP? Same with 99, same with TT.

    We've only got 27% equity against 99, TT, QQ, KJs, JTs, AKs, and AJs. If we're up against a set, we've got one out. If we truly are up against KJ, do we even know if our outs are good if the board pairs? We realistically would have to hope he has JTss or another flush draw + straight draw, and there are only 3 combos of those hands against all of the other hands that beat us. So it's a fold. If he bluffed, nh by him.
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