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09-03-2010 , 01:06 AM

#826

Swiiftx

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,991

Quote:

Originally Posted by tneva82

Quick question. Is there any player type difference between full tilt NL5 and pokerstars NL5? More tighter? More aggressive? Less bluffier? Something else?

Just in case I get rakeback there and decide to switch over. If I get then NL10 I'll switch atleast when I have to face new players anyway but maybe I might switch at NL5 already but am wondering is there anything I should adjust to.

It's 5NL for crying out loud. People talk about it like it's ***** preperations for landing on mars.

09-03-2010 , 01:09 AM

#827

z0mgtiltz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,948

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiiftx

It's 5NL for crying out loud. People talk about it like it's ***** preperations for landing on mars.

If insta4bet can't beat 5nl, no one can.

09-03-2010 , 01:16 AM

#828

Brian J

TOTP Master

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,650

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sc00by

Please teach me how to do this, I beg of you!

it's called Rush

In Rush you get a set bonus but then you also get a set over set penalty occasionally

the funny thing is if he makes it $5.50 i probably fold

09-03-2010 , 01:18 AM

#829

Insta-4Bet

banned

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,150

I moved $160 to carbon poker for no-limit four, I am comfortably rolled with 40 buyins now, plus daily rakeback payments of 35%.

Quote:

Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz

If insta4bet can't beat 5nl, no one can.

naaah bro I was crushing

It shows my AP sn because I have my PS sn as an alias.

Last edited by Insta-4Bet; 09-03-2010 at 01:25 AM.

09-03-2010 , 01:20 AM

#830

Brian J

TOTP Master

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,650

daily makes it seem too small, i like the nice weekly lump sum. when i first started at full tilt it was actually monthly

09-03-2010 , 01:24 AM

#831

Insta-4Bet

banned

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,150

Ya I'm used to the monthly at AP.

09-03-2010 , 01:25 AM

#832

hsiffish

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 176

run bad of -4 BI has been followed by run good. Made back the 4BI to put me up 2.5 BI for the day +$10 released in bonus...Almost at my goal of $200...

09-03-2010 , 01:27 AM

#833

whodatninja

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,304

is this weird on my part? should i be raising that river fearlessly? i feel like i should, called or not.

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $34.48
Hero (BB): $41.14
UTG: $15.24
CO: $13.61
BTN: $19.34

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is BB with K

A

Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.00) A

3

2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($12.00) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.00) 2

(2 players)
SB bets $9.00, Hero calls $9

Final Pot: $30.00
SB shows 8

8

Hero shows K

A

Hero wins $28.50
(Rake: $1.50)

09-03-2010 , 01:31 AM

#834

hsiffish

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 176

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodatninja

is this weird on my part? should i be raising that river fearlessly? i feel like i should, called or not.

We raise to: fold out better hands that beat us, or to extract value from hands we beat...

09-03-2010 , 01:33 AM

#835

whodatninja

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,304

Quote:

Originally Posted by hsiffish

We raise to: fold out better hands that beat us, or to extract value from hands we beat...

but not to boost the redline? in all seriousness, shouldn't i be raising to extract from AQ (which would be awful on his part also)?

09-03-2010 , 01:35 AM

#836

Swiiftx

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,991

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodatninja

is this weird on my part? should i be raising that river fearlessly? i feel like i should, called or not.

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $34.48
Hero (BB): $41.14
UTG: $15.24
CO: $13.61
BTN: $19.34

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is BB with K

A

Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.00) A

3

2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($12.00) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.00) 2

(2 players)
SB bets $9.00, Hero calls $9

Final Pot: $30.00
SB shows 8

8

Hero shows K

A

Hero wins $28.50
(Rake: $1.50)

The underlaying reasons for raising river would be for value or as a bluff. In this case, if there's no hidden metagame or some value thin raise(if villain is a complete donk) I'm just calling here.

09-03-2010 , 01:38 AM

#837

whodatninja

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,304

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiiftx

The underlaying reasons for raising river would be for value or as a bluff. In this case, if there's no hidden metagame or some value thin raise(if villain is a complete donk) I'm just calling here.

that's why i didn't, because i hadn't seen villain do anything unusual like this my whole time at the table, so it felt odd seeing him muck 8s.

anyway, how bad is my betsizing:

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $33.63
Hero (CO): $27.85
BTN: $12.25
SB: $25.26
BB: $20.54

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A

3

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) 6

7

5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $1

Turn: ($3.75) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB calls $3

River: ($9.75) 3

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9.75, SB calls $9.75

Final Pot: $29.25
Hero shows A

3

SB mucks 6

K

Hero wins $27.79
(Rake: $1.46)

09-03-2010 , 01:45 AM

#838

Swiiftx

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,991

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodatninja

that's why i didn't, because i hadn't seen villain do anything unusual like this my whole time at the table, so it felt odd seeing him muck 8s.

anyway, how bad is my betsizing:

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $33.63
Hero (CO): $27.85
BTN: $12.25
SB: $25.26
BB: $20.54

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A

3

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) 6

7

5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $1

Turn: ($3.75) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB calls $3

River: ($9.75) 3

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9.75, SB calls $9.75

Final Pot: $29.25
Hero shows A

3

SB mucks 6

K

Hero wins $27.79
(Rake: $1.46)

There is no way for you to stack him in a single raised pot if you don't overbet or he raises. Your bet sizing is fine. Considering the board, if he's a huge donk/fish, you can shove river cause it's a huge possibility he has 2pair, str8 or flush that he won't be able to fold.

Last edited by Swiiftx; 09-03-2010 at 01:50 AM.

09-03-2010 , 01:47 AM

#839

e i pi

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,230

Raising top pair on the river for value isn't standard but if you're playing a huge calling station or think you can rep a bluff its okay.

09-03-2010 , 01:52 AM

#840

Swiiftx

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,991

Quote:

Originally Posted by e i pi

Raising top pair on the river for value isn't standard but if you're playing a huge calling station or think you can rep a bluff its okay.

Raising river would only be for value and never as a bluff. I mean, what can villain have that is folding to a bluffraise but if he called, he would win.

09-03-2010 , 01:57 AM

#841

tneva82

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,742

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiiftx

It's 5NL for crying out loud. People talk about it like it's ***** preperations for landing on mars.

Lol. What's your trouble?-) Slept badly?

When I was sweating friends attempt at NL2 at full tilt poker it didn't look like similar play. Not suprising since players are different(and one thing for sure: buyins tend to be lot shorter).

Since I won't be playing at FTP for maybe few weeks(?) depending on when(if) rakeback application is accepted figured maybe someone here would be helpfull enough to give points.

Guess I was wrong and this isn't forum with helfpull posters afterall. Just rude condescending ones.

09-03-2010 , 02:01 AM

#842

Swiiftx

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,991

Quote:

Originally Posted by tneva82

Lol. What's your trouble?-) Slept badly?

When I was sweating friends attempt at NL2 at full tilt poker it didn't look like similar play. Not suprising since players are different(and one thing for sure: buyins tend to be lot shorter).

Since I won't be playing at FTP for maybe few weeks(?) depending on when(if) rakeback application is accepted figured maybe someone here would be helpfull enough to give points.

Guess I was wrong and this isn't forum with helfpull posters afterall.

Last aggro answer then off to uni. It's because it's a stupid question my friend. What do you expect people to say? They bluff more at ftp or at stars people 3bet more? No one is going to be able to give you an answer which you will benefit from in any way. Some people will say ftp is weaker, others will say stars is weaker. Truth is, no one has done a deep analysis over a large sample to justify their subjective thought.

tata

09-03-2010 , 02:08 AM

#843

tneva82

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,742

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiiftx

What do you expect people to say?

Howabout their subjective experience when they have moved sites? Can't believe I would be only one doing that in poker history...

I have played at poker heaven and got quickly rough idea how the lowest stake there was. Didn't like it. Like it or not sites player pool does play differently between sites even at micro levels.

09-03-2010 , 02:10 AM

#844

Mark89er

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,223

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJo336

I hate you subs

pretty much this lol

09-03-2010 , 02:18 AM

#845

subs

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,731

its all in your head... the play is not different between the major sites at 5nl

09-03-2010 , 02:20 AM

#846

tneva82

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,742

Quote:

Originally Posted by subs

its all in your head... the play is not different between the major sites at 5nl

Lol yeah. At one site can't get people fold pf easily. At other can't get people call pf. Had to adjust by opening up REALLY wide since my profit would come from stealing blinds.

After couple weeks of that decided too boring and too slow and screw the rakeback. If I can't get value for big hands the rakeback won't be helping much.

09-03-2010 , 02:27 AM

#847

aesthetics

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,514

**** donkaments, im leading this stupid thing for an hour and i get aipf KK against AA against this ****** arrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh waste of life

09-03-2010 , 02:28 AM

#848

hsiffish

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 176

for 5nl my best advice would be bet when ur ahead, fold when ur not. don't bluff. don't get fancy. don't expect anyone to fold when they 'should'. it sucks and its boring. ull make like a dollar an hour. but thats like one chicken burrito from taco bell.

09-03-2010 , 02:28 AM

#849

foam21

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 300

Quote:

Originally Posted by tneva82

Lol yeah. At one site can't get people fold pf easily. At other can't get people call pf. Had to adjust by opening up REALLY wide since my profit would come from stealing blinds.

After couple weeks of that decided too boring and too slow and screw the rakeback. If I can't get value for big hands the rakeback won't be helping much.

Why are you wanting to get people to fold easily at 5NL? You should be value betting their dicks off. Not getting people to call pre sounds like you're not using good table selection.

09-03-2010 , 02:40 AM

#850

Insta-4Bet

banned

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,150

where do I get my hh's at the merge gaming network (carbon poker)?

For some reason the hands don't showup in pt3 but my stats and profit #'s do.

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