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11-09-2009 , 09:33 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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sushi rick (BB): $10.59
good2bagangsta (UTG): $23.05
ifoldjacks316 (CO): $33.74
nativeblue (BTN): $47.47
Hero (SB): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is SB with 8 2
2 folds, ifoldjacks316 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.50) 7 8 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, ifoldjacks316 checks

Turn: ($0.50) A (2 players)
Hero checks, ifoldjacks316 checks

River: ($0.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, ifoldjacks316 checks

Final Pot: $0.50
ifoldjacks316 shows K K (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows 8 2 (a pair of Eights)
ifoldjacks316 wins $0.48
(Rake: $0.02)


dorado16: hahahah
ifoldjacks316: its all good, you will get caught sooner or later..
dorado16: baaahahahah
11-09-2009 , 09:37 PM
10 p.m. Vegas time/1 a.m. Eastern time.
11-09-2009 , 09:47 PM
I feel like my flop raise is ******ed

Against a reg

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $24.75
BB: $24.05
UTG: $30.35
CO: $25.25
Hero (BTN): $27.30

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J 9
UTG raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 7 8 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, UTG raises to $17, Hero raises to $26.30 all in, UTG calls $9.30

Turn: ($54.95) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($54.95) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $54.95
UTG shows 6 7 (two pair, Sevens and Fives)
Hero shows J 9 (a pair of Fives)
UTG wins $52.95
(Rake: $2.00)
11-09-2009 , 09:49 PM
Is it just me or would this hand be less tilting if he hit the straight?

Party Poker $10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $8.31
BB: $13.95
UTG: $6.91
CO: $12.52
BTN: $10.40

Pre Flop: ($0.15) A Q
1 fold, CO raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.40) 9 3 Q (4 players)
SB bets $1.40, BB calls $1.40, CO folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, BB calls $2.60

Turn: ($10.80) T (2 players)
BB checks, BTN bets $6.05 all in, BB calls $6.05

River: ($22.90) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $22.90
BB shows T J
BTN shows A Q
BB wins $21.76
(Rake: $1.14)
11-09-2009 , 09:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gateswi
I feel like my flop raise is ******ed

Against a reg

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $24.75
BB: $24.05
UTG: $30.35
CO: $25.25
Hero (BTN): $27.30

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J 9
UTG raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 7 8 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, UTG raises to $17, Hero raises to $26.30 all in, UTG calls $9.30

Turn: ($54.95) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($54.95) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $54.95
UTG shows 6 7 (two pair, Sevens and Fives)
Hero shows J 9 (a pair of Fives)
UTG wins $52.95
(Rake: $2.00)
Both your hands are funny....
11-09-2009 , 09:50 PM
I was surprised
11-09-2009 , 09:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gateswi
I feel like my flop raise is ******ed

Against a reg
your line is pretty transparent in my opinion
11-09-2009 , 09:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Truancy
your line is pretty transparent in my opinion
We flatted his utg and raised this flop, 55/77/88 make up most of our range, no?

What do you mean transparent?
11-09-2009 , 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mOeeOm
We flatted his utg and raised this flop, 55/77/88 make up most of our range, no?

What do you mean transparent?
transparent is prolly the wrong word but in my opinion we rep 9 combos of sets and i would expect a reg to be flatting there like always
11-09-2009 , 10:23 PM
laaammmeeee

Party Poker $50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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CO: $14.85
BTN: $9.48
Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $94.27
UTG: $131.63

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 3 3
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $13.50, BB calls $8

Flop: ($27.00) 4 2 T (2 players)
Hero bets $10.32, BB raises to $80.77 all in, Hero calls $26.18 all in

Turn: ($100.00) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($100.00) A (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $100.00
Hero shows 3 3 (two pairs, Tens and Threes)
BB shows K A (two pairs, Aces and Tens)
BB wins $0.00
BB wins $97.50
(Rake: $2.50)
11-09-2009 , 10:24 PM
its like the party santa clause watches to see if u misplay a hand, and if u misplay it bad enough u win.

Party Poker $50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $39.90
BB: $153.60
Hero (UTG): $51.99
CO: $55.97
BTN: $9.98

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 7 7
Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 6 2 T (2 players)
Hero bets $3.39, CO calls $3.39

Turn: ($11.53) T (2 players)
Hero bets $7.72, CO raises to $20, Hero calls $12.28

River: ($51.53) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: $51.53
Hero shows 7 7 (two pairs, Tens and Sevens)
CO shows Q A (two pairs, Queens and Tens)
CO wins $49.53
(Rake: $2.00)
11-09-2009 , 10:29 PM
8. He's Only in It for Sex
Sadly, some guys are just out for a conquest. Keep a close eye on things so you're not a victim of one of these kind of guys. Usually, if you have a gut feeling that he's interested only in the bedroom, you're right.


this is so slanted (from klinks link). As if girls haven't ever sexed a guy just for sex? One night stands are a two person decision.
11-09-2009 , 10:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nitwitnit
8. He's Only in It for Sex
Sadly, some guys are just out for a conquest. Keep a close eye on things so you're not a victim of one of these kind of guys. Usually, if you have a gut feeling that he's interested only in the bedroom, you're right.


this is so slanted (from klinks link). As if girls haven't ever sexed a guy just for sex? One night stands are a two person decision.
wut
11-09-2009 , 10:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by srooney3
kk noob hand for me. why was his line so bad? u dont usually show up with air? really? after u c/c a half pot dry flop and the turn/river get even drier? then u donk 2/3 pot?
i understand that you can be playing AK, KQ this way cause its so dry, but thats only part of ur range.
actually hmmmmm maybs i understand :/ lol
actually, edit num 3, maybs i dont really cause i can see that as only being part of ur range. given the price he has to pay and realizing hes generally only beating a bluff, i dont fully understand y he souldnt call (esp if he sees u as decently aggro which mayb ur not)
anyone for ksights hand? or just gonna keep me as a fish im guessing?
11-09-2009 , 10:44 PM
I runz good at HU.


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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squa***: $34.44
Hero (): $43.54

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is with A 3
squa*** raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.80, squa*** calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.60) A 5 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.40, squa*** raises to $6.80, Hero raises to $41.74 all in, squa*** calls $25.84 all in

Turn: ($68.88) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($68.88) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $68.88
squa*** shows A 5
Hero shows A 3
Hero wins $68.38
(Rake: $0.50)
11-09-2009 , 11:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by srooney3
anyone for ksights hand? or just gonna keep me as a fish im guessing?
Sorry I was away.

There's a lot of things wrong with this hand imo in his perspective.

I didn't give you this information, but this was a character that decided to 3-bet pretty much all my opens, and so I absolutely know he's doing it light. (Hence the similar villain as previously described)

Now generally I never defend 3-bets OOP, but lately against bad players that I can play post-flop against, I've given up my positional advantage for the fact that I probably have the best hand, and I can evaluate his range much better which ultimately boils down to a more +EV play (obviously this is usually a fold when I open MP and get 3-bet when I open ATo, and if I want to continue it's usually to 4b/f)

Spoiler:
If I'm playing a player that I think is competent, I generally don't have a calling range when I'm OOP to a 3-bet except for KK/AA if I choose to not 4-bet it but that's a story for another day


In either case, ATo from MP, standard open, 3-bet monkey-tard 3-bets me, and I have too good of a hand to 4-bet bluff with, and too strong of a hand to fold, so I go ahead and call. Easy as that.

Flop comes 36Kr and obviously I check and he c-bets.
Now right away I know the fact that he's 3-betting like 20% so this board hits him like never if he's 3-betting me wide. (If he was polarized, his value hands are obviously even narrower). The hands that c-bet this particular board are air and nuts, and we know he has way more air than nuts, and my A high beat all his air (since my A high T kicker beats all his A high air too).

I don't C/R because I fold out all the air I beat, and get called only by his nuts.

Turn comes a blank I check and he CB's because he has nothing

River I agree I made the mistake of betting here because he's CB'ing pretty much always, but I actually had never played in a 3-bet pot with him OOP so I had no idea what he did with his air so I decided to go ahead and bet to take the dead money in the middle.

Spoiler:
Now aside from him not knowing (because he obviously doesn't think) that I don't have a range that calls a 3-bet OOP, first of all, there's no real point to c-betting 99 in his spot (let alone 3-bet my open with it...) and once I c/c this board, his 99 is never good here, because even against a random person, a c/c range is going to have TT+ type hands which his 99 never beats (and ******s like to play TT+ like this for some reason)


So regardless of the fact that I c/c'd this board, his 99 is NEVER good on the river unless I have 77 exactly.

The fact that I saw his 3-bet % not change whether he was in the blinds or IP simply told me he's ******ed so I basically defended against his 3-bets really light

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $60.95
MP: $36.20
CO: $27.40
Hero (BTN): $26.40
SB: $50.40
BB: $24.45

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A T
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 3 3 A (2 players)
SB bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

Turn: ($10.25) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.00, SB calls $7

River: ($24.25) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $38.40, Hero calls $14.40 all in

Final Pot: $53.05
Hero shows A T
SB shows K J
Hero wins $50.50
(Rake: $2.55)

This guy also loved to raise randomly so he was just basically spew all around


Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $25.00
Hero (BB): $31.55
UTG: $34.90
CO: $24.30
BTN: $30.75

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 8 9
3 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) 3 J 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB raises to $3.25, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($8.00) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

River: ($15.50) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $15.50
SB shows 4 A
Hero shows 8 9
Hero wins $14.75
(Rake: $0.75)
11-09-2009 , 11:15 PM
Games are tough at micros.


Party Poker $10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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CO: $4.84
BTN: $6.46
SB: $9.35
BB: $10.49
Hero (UTG): $14.11

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BTN raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $14.11 all in, 1 fold, BB calls $8.89 all in

Flop: ($21.53) 4 2 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($21.53) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($21.53) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $21.53
BB shows Q J (two pairs, Queens and Twos)
Hero shows K K (two pairs, Kings and Twos)
Hero wins $3.62
Hero wins $16.91
(Rake: $1.00)
11-09-2009 , 11:27 PM
Eff, my HD froze up and now my 25NL HHs along with a 1/4 of my 10NL HHs are corrupt.

Run bad on PS, run bad in life I guess.
11-09-2009 , 11:38 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $9.43
UTG: $31.84
CO: $8.00
BTN: $25.68
Hero (SB): $25.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q 9
2 folds, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.25) 7 Q 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN raises to $15.75, Hero raises to $24.25 all in, BTN calls $8.50

Turn: ($50.75) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($50.75) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $50.75
BTN shows 5 K (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows Q 9 (two pair, Queens and Nines)
Hero wins $48.22
(Rake: $2.53)

I guess he was priced in.
11-09-2009 , 11:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gateswi
I feel like my flop raise is ******ed

Against a reg

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $24.75
BB: $24.05
UTG: $30.35
CO: $25.25
Hero (BTN): $27.30

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J 9
UTG raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 7 8 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, UTG raises to $17, Hero raises to $26.30 all in, UTG calls $9.30

Turn: ($54.95) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($54.95) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $54.95
UTG shows 6 7 (two pair, Sevens and Fives)
Hero shows J 9 (a pair of Fives)
UTG wins $52.95
(Rake: $2.00)
GS+BDFD= nuts imo, i have wet dreams about these flops
11-09-2009 , 11:44 PM
Its actually a double gutshot, and I think I should have floated lol
11-09-2009 , 11:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ksight3
Flop comes 36Kr and obviously I check and he c-bets....The hands that c-bet this particular board are air and nuts, and we know he has way more air than nuts, and my A high beat all his air
i like his cbet here with generally his entire range b/c it does include air/nuts but obv it can include semi-bluff hands as well (like his did with the 77). so i disagree with ur first statement in that he always has nuts or air.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ksight3
Turn comes a blank I check and he CB's because he has nothing
or hes pot controlling with a marginal hand? i think he would check behind with exactly the kind of hand he has. (plus some air, but not as often as he appears to be somewhat aggressive and would most likely fire again with his air on this card cause he knows he's likely behind)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ksight3
his 99 is NEVER good on the river unless I have 77 exactly.
so on the river, when u 2/3 pot bet, what's your actual range (as perceived by him)? on that board, your range is not just 99+, AK, KQ(maybe) imo. you can also miss the board 2/3 of the time like anyone else on the flop and when the turn/river come like that you and show very little aggression, i think he almost always should call (unless he has a read knowing he shouldn't)


looking at it this way, is this a bad way to play it? he pot controlled a marginal hand on a dry board after 3betting light and got to showdown cheaply.

tbh, i think he played his hand pretty face up on the turn after checking behind. an aggro dude would most likely fire again with air on the turn imo and he did not, meaning he may have a hand he wants to get to showdown.
11-09-2009 , 11:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gateswi
Its actually a double gutshot, and I think I should have floated lol
i came
11-09-2009 , 11:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by srooney3
i like his cbet here with generally his entire range b/c it does include air/nuts but obv it can include semi-bluff hands as well (like his did with the 77). so i disagree with ur first statement in that he always has nuts or air.



or hes pot controlling with a marginal hand? i think he would check behind with exactly the kind of hand he has. (plus some air, but not as often as he appears to be somewhat aggressive and would most likely fire again with his air on this card cause he knows he's likely behind)



so on the river, when u 2/3 pot bet, what's your actual range (as perceived by him)? on that board, your range is not just 99+, AK, KQ(maybe) imo. you can also miss the board 2/3 of the time like anyone else on the flop and when the turn/river come like that you and show very little aggression, i think he almost always should call (unless he has a read knowing he shouldn't)


looking at it this way, is this a bad way to play it? he pot controlled a marginal hand on a dry board after 3betting light and got to showdown cheaply.

tbh, i think he played his hand pretty face up on the turn after checking behind. an aggro dude would most likely fire again with air on the turn imo and he did not, meaning he may have a hand he wants to get to showdown.
I mean you can interpret it however you want to...I simply posted what I thought.

I mean I had the feeling of "wow he owned me" after this particular hand, and went on to take his stack so...
11-10-2009 , 12:00 AM
anyone folding this river? i really considered it but my finger clicked call.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($25)
BB ($27.65)
UTG ($38.79)
CO ($32.13)
Hero ($26.85)

Dealt to Hero 5 5

fold, CO raises to $1.05, Hero calls $0.95, fold, fold

FLOP ($2.25) K J A

CO checks, Hero checks

TURN ($2.25) K J A 5

CO bets $3, Hero calls $3

RIVER ($8.25) K J A 5 K

CO bets $28.08 (AI), Hero calls $22.90 (AI)

CO shows A A
(Pre 80%, Flop 99.1%, Turn 97.7%)

Hero shows 5 5
(Pre 20%, Flop 0.9%, Turn 2.3%)

CO wins $51.35

      
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