Sweet.
Ongame Network $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $100.00
UTG: $100.00
CO: $108.00
BTN: $343.50
Hero (SB): $189.15

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 8 6
1 fold, CO raises to $3, BTN calls $3, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.00) K 4 A (3 players)
Hero bets $7.00, CO raises to $25, BTN folds, Hero raises to $60, CO raises to $105, Hero calls $45

Turn: ($220.00) 9 (2 players)

River: ($220.00) T (2 players)

Final Pot: $220.00
CO shows A K
Hero shows 8 6
(Rake: $3.00)

ugh.

u misunderstand how the ev line works.

it doesnt matter how we play, EV line long term should be netural. being in more flop aggressive all in pots will change how many ev hands we have, so our high and lows will be bigger.

its like flipping a coin, with tails a loss and heads a win. if subs only flips it 5x in 10k hands he can only be +-5. if someone else is aggressive and gets 20x in 10k hands he can be +-20. either way though it should gravitate towards neutral. its just average expectation.

u seem to think it works like showdown.vs.nonshowdown lines, which affect each other. it doesnt. the line just moves up/down based on average luck for any ev spot. no matter how u do it, it should go towards neutral over time.

adsfal;j today it was like everyone i played against was Clay Aiken, the nuts kept hitting them in the face.
When that didnt happen, this did
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $11.63
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $7.14
SB: $45.59
BB: $13.98
UTG: $28.73

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q Q
UTG raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, BB calls $1.10, UTG calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.65) T 3 5 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB folds, UTG calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.65) 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $6.30 all in, UTG calls $6.30

River: ($21.25) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $21.25
Hero shows Q Q (a pair of Queens)
UTG shows 7 7 (a straight, Seven high)
UTG wins $19.84
(Rake: $1.41)

Way to put your money in when you're ahead, he insta shoved over my turn bet... Btw, how much do u bet on the turn?
Ongame Network $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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Hero (BB): $105.70
UTG: $177.65
CO: $40.75
BTN: $132.45
SB: $101.25

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with T T
3 folds, SB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.00) T J K (2 players)
SB bets $5.50, Hero raises to $16, SB calls $10.50

Turn: ($39.00) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14.00, SB raises to $81.75, Hero calls $67.75

River: ($202.50) 5 (2 players)

Final Pot: $202.50
Hero shows T T
SB shows Q A
(Rake: $3.00)

spew

dumuzi... i understand that... but if im getting my money in as a huge EV favorite most of the time... unless im running absolutely terrible i should be running above EV until i hit the long run which i believe will take a few million hands at least since the situations occur less frequently... also if i go to showdown a lot (without being all in) it wont affect my EV line (i always assumed it was an all in ev line? is it not?)

no, it doesnt matter if u are getting in as 80/20 a few times or as 30/70 often.

if u do 10x 80/20 then 8x u win, 2x u lose and it goes to neutral over time.
if u do 100x 30/70s, 30x u win, 70x u lose and it goes neutral too.

its not just how much u win in allin pots. it doesnt matter what odds u get it in with or how often. its how much u deviate from your equity%. the only difference from someone who doesnt play draws aggressive is they have less allin pots so their ev line cant be as far away from their profit line (in high variance sample sizes).

wut

think in terms of bb not amounts fish

I was being ironic. I think sb played it bad.

You're the fish.

now now

i am still in the short run... of course over the long run it should even out to neutral EV

what im trying to say is that if you get it in a majority of the time as a big EV favorite... you have a higher chance of running above EV in an all in EV graph in the short run

fyp

MP was the mark with 12% f3bet, I was pretty sure he was coming along so I was getting a good price. BTN had been isoing. Still no clue what BB was doing.

like rain on your wedding day?

Ugh so frustrating I can not seem to win at 100NL, but I am dominating 50NL i feel.
50NL

100NL

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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Hero (BTN): $25.70
SB: $52.60
BB: $39.70
CO: $25.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 3 3
CO raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) Q 3 9 (2 players)
CO bets $1.20, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $1.80

Turn: ($7.85) Q (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $4.75, CO calls $4.75

River: ($17.35) 9 (2 players)
CO bets $16.70,

I can't stop laughing for some reason. FFFFFUUUUUUU. pukefold

wtf are you doing on that turn? bet big with everything, so that you can bet/call

limperschmit, 100nl plays exactly the same as 50nl postflop, don't let all the preflop aggression get to your head.

Do you think it's possible to win a tourney without making some massive suckouts along the way?

I'm getting so sick of it. So many hours playing well and you lose it all to the biggest bull**** suckout/cooler ever. I don't know how people play so many of these things. I couldn't bear it.

The players are so spewy it's not even fair. It's like fishing with dynamite. Anyone guess the movie?


Ongame Network $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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Hero (BTN): $417.00
SB: $99.05
BB: $115.20
CO: $77.35

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 7 T
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BB raises to $9.50, Hero calls $6.50

Flop: ($19.50) 3 4 8 (2 players)
BB bets $16.00, Hero calls $16

Turn: ($51.50) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $89.70, Hero calls $89.70

River: ($230.90) 9 (2 players)

Final Pot: $230.90
Hero shows 7 T
BB shows 6 5
(Rake: $2.00)

i really liked that size on the turn so he can chase draws (?) and i have a PSB on the river to shove weeeee

o btw

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