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12-16-2012 , 05:46 AM
^Yeh me too, and no word of a lie, my mate's parents got held at gunpoint yesterday and his mum was kidnapped for a short time. The Police were excellent and dealt with them really well. Just need to catch the bastard now!
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12-16-2012 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunna100
Move table
why would you leave a table like that? you're printing money with your decent hands vs someone 3-betting 25% or whatever when they are oop, i think those tables are quite good usually ( i see a lot of people with like 20%+ 3bet from blinds and 4% from btn lol). i'm just not sure about the optimal way to exploit it.
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12-16-2012 , 06:00 AM
If you have an aggro player to your left they will make life very hard for you the whole time, when they are oop and ip. Why stay when you can just find another table with a juicy fish to your right who you can milk dry?

This is called 'table selection'
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12-16-2012 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunna100
If you have an aggro player to your left they will make life very hard for you the whole time, when they are oop and ip. Why stay when you can just find another table with a juicy fish to your right who you can milk dry?

This is called 'table selection'
except i said specifically 3-betting wide oop and not ip, if you're going to advocate being lazy and not trying to improve on a strategy forum at least read my entire post.
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12-16-2012 , 07:49 AM
Do u think an aggro player will 3bet u more oop or ip?

Of course there are strategies for dealing with aggro 3bettors. Maybe try the search function to find out for yourself (hint: try the concept of the week index)
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12-16-2012 , 07:58 AM
most of those aggro 3bettors have like 15-20% 3b from the blinds. u give them the button, they 3b like 5% lolz
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12-16-2012 , 08:45 AM
Time for sleep
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12-16-2012 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunna100
Do u think an aggro player will 3bet u more oop or ip?

Of course there are strategies for dealing with aggro 3bettors. Maybe try the search function to find out for yourself (hint: try the concept of the week index)
if you don't know the answer to my question or can't read simple english just don't bother replying.

(hint: i never asked how to deal with "aggro players" in general)
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12-16-2012 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by stupidHax0rz
if you don't know the answer to my question just don't reply.
I do know the answer to your question, and have provided one strategy (which is what is generally advised if you have an aggro player to your left btw), and advice on where to find more information if you didn't like that one (which I have also read and understood along with the other useful information you will find there).

[Kitten]I just thought it may be more useful to you to get off you lazy ass and find out for yourself rather than just post a general strategy question and wait for someone else to come and spend 20 mins writing a post to spoon feed your ineptitude[/Kitten]

Oh btw, I put the above in 'kitten tags' to make it pink and fluffy enough for you so you don't go getting all grumpy.

Merry Christmas
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12-16-2012 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunna100
I do know the answer to your question, and have provided one strategy (which is what is generally advised if you have an aggro player to your left btw), and advice on where to find more information if you didn't like that one (which I have also read and understood along with the other useful information you will find there).

[Kitten]I just thought it may be more useful to you to get off you lazy ass and find out for yourself rather than just post a general strategy question and wait for someone else to come and spend 20 mins writing a post to spoon feed your ineptitude[/Kitten]

Oh btw, I put the above in 'kitten tags' to make it pink and fluffy enough for you so you don't go getting all grumpy.

Merry Christmas
is that why you keep talking about people who are generically aggro when i am talking about ones who are specifically aggro oop? i'm sorry for your brain damage or whatever but you have not posted anything useful or relevant.
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12-16-2012 , 10:03 AM
well i guess this explains some things http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...92&postcount=1

i don't usually like to be a dick and call out stuff like this but if you're going to give condescending replies to me you kind of have it coming. i appreciate the kitten tags though.
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12-16-2012 , 10:10 AM
Ha ha ha lol at you for picking that out.

At least I have the balls to say I'm in a downswing and still post a graph like I do every month.

As you're obviously an idiot, try looking here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...ntents-397190/

There are specific posts on blind defense, 3betting, reacting to 3bets etc etc which is what I told you in the first place.
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12-16-2012 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by stupidHax0rz
well i guess this explains some things http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...92&postcount=1

i don't usually like to be a dick and call out stuff like this but if you're going to give condescending replies to me you kind of have it coming. i appreciate the kitten tags though.
Lol is that link meant to prove something?
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12-16-2012 , 10:20 AM
well congrats on having balls maybe you will acquire a brain to match someday.

just glanced through the "reacting to 3bets" post and as expected it addresses a generic concept and does not answer my specific question at all.
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12-16-2012 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
Lol is that link meant to prove something?
yes - according to op's posting history he plays 10nl/20nl/25nl. variance exists in poker obviously, but stnd dev. is sooo much lower at micros, and being down 530bb's or whatever after ~25k hands means that he is extremely unlikely to be more than a small winner at 25nl and therefore his attitude+lack of helpfulness isn't exactly appreciated. comprendé?
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12-16-2012 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by YouFaiil
bolded is the point your missing, why would u start a logical argument? so u can stand there discussing/arguing for 30 mins just for them to say "well thats how it is, goodbye" whats the point in discussing/arguing? whats it achieve? your friend gets to prove a point to a police officer who doesnt give a ****...

im sensing u have very little experience with situations like you were in, my advice, dont say anything and stop your friends from talking. just be quiet, let them do what they want to do and u can get get home much quicker
This is pretty infuriating to read coming from a young guy in England Tbh. You ever been to South America YF? You know Argentina's history at all?
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12-16-2012 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by stupidHax0rz
yes - according to op's posting history he plays 10nl/20nl/25nl. variance exists in poker obviously, but stnd dev. is sooo much lower at micros, and being down 530bb's or whatever after ~25k hands means that he is extremely unlikely to be more than a small winner at 25nl and therefore his attitude+lack of helpfulness isn't exactly appreciated. comprendé?
Hmm yeah, he's the one who doesn't understand variance out of the two of you. Impossible to be down 5 BI's in 25k hands if you're a winning player.
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12-16-2012 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
Hmm yeah, he's the one who doesn't understand variance out of the two of you. Impossible to be down 5 BI's in 25k hands if you're a winning player.
i didn't say he wasn't a winning player, i said it is very unlikely he is a big winner, and yes that is a reasonable inference from that sample size if you know anything about variance at those stakes.
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12-16-2012 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by stupidHax0rz
i didn't say he wasn't a winning player, i said it is very unlikely he is a big winner, and yes that is a reasonable inference from that sample size if you know anything about variance at those stakes.
What do you mean by "variance at those stakes"?
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12-16-2012 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
This is pretty infuriating to read coming from a young guy in England Tbh. You ever been to South America YF? You know Argentina's history at all?
You're right, I should have asked for more info, I was just going by my own experiences and what i've been taught.

No I have never been to south america (world cup 2014 though imo ) and I have little knowledge of south americas law enforcement.

edit: in other news i've solved the 235 sattys

Poker Stars 235FPP No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds + t10 - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: t470 M = 3.48
MP: t25 M = 0.19
CO: t395 M = 2.93
Hero (BTN): t1220 M = 9.04
SB: t420 M = 3.11
BB: t470 M = 3.48

Pre Flop: (t135) Hero is BTN with J J
1 fold, MP calls t15 all in, CO raises to t385 all in, Hero raises to t1210 all in, SB calls t385 all in, BB calls t410 all in

Flop: (t1790) 3 5 J (5 players - 5 are all in)

Turn: (t1790) T (5 players - 5 are all in)

River: (t1790) 7 (5 players - 5 are all in)

Final Pot: t1790
MP shows Q T (a pair of Tens)
CO shows 5 5 (three of a kind, Fives)
Hero shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
SB shows K A (high card Ace)
BB shows A K (high card Ace)
Hero wins t100
Hero wins t75
Hero wins t1480
Hero wins t135
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12-16-2012 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
What do you mean by "variance at those stakes"?
i mean the variance (or lack thereof), at those stakes. close/highly volatile situations are much less frequent, overall aggression levels are much lower, etc.
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12-16-2012 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by stupidHax0rz
i mean the variance (or lack thereof), at those stakes. close/highly volatile situations are much less frequent, overall aggression levels are much lower, etc.
yeah but 20k+ hand b/e, slightly losing periods will happen to even the biggest of winners
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12-16-2012 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JesusEatsCheese
yeah but 20k+ hand b/e, slightly losing periods will happen to even the biggest of winners
sure it's inevitable with enough hands played, but someone who's a big winner for ex. at 10nl or 25nl is much more likely to move up before they have time to experience it at those stakes.
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12-16-2012 , 11:04 AM
That last post shows a flaw in your understanding of variance.
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12-16-2012 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
That last post shows a flaw in your understanding if variance.
cool story bro
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